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Rope for Bondage, which is the best? - 6/25/2010 11:46:01 AM   
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I am looking for the best rope to use for bondage on my sub.  I have purchased several different types from Home Depot but so far no good luck.  Does anyone have any suggestions?  and better yet any suggestions where I could find it except for online, like any chain stores. 
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RE: Rope for Bondage, which is the best? - 6/25/2010 12:34:32 PM   
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Outdoor Outfiitter stores are a good source of rope. Places like Bass Pro Shops, Cabela's, REI as well at the local places. They sell climbing / repelling ropes. They typically have patterns and colors for the rope.

I am not much of a rope bondage enthusiast but I would probably lean to the larger diameter ropes (3/8" or larger) for less stress on the skin and joints. But I will let others recommend the size/diameter.

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RE: Rope for Bondage, which is the best? - 6/25/2010 12:37:15 PM   
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Thanks for the advice  :)

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RE: Rope for Bondage, which is the best? - 6/25/2010 12:39:40 PM   
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TT, I posed this question a few months back and got some useful info you may want to check out: Rope Recommendations.

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RE: Rope for Bondage, which is the best? - 6/30/2010 12:39:22 PM   
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Fully conditioned hemp of course

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RE: Rope for Bondage, which is the best? - 7/25/2010 6:20:36 PM   
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Climbing rope; don't waste your money on 60 meters of super-expensive dynamic climbing rope, however; but short lengths of rope known as "static line" that is used for setting up anchors for climbing. If you need to cut it to specific lengths, wrap electrical tape tightly around the rope, and cut 2-3 mm away from the edge of the electrical tape to prevent fraying.

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RE: Rope for Bondage, which is the best? - 7/25/2010 9:26:38 PM   
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quote:

I am looking for the best rope to use for bondage on my sub. I have purchased several different types from Home Depot but so far no good luck. Does anyone have any suggestions? and better yet any suggestions where I could find it except for online, like any chain stores.


Just curious if you only use rope on your sub or if you use tape as well. I know of a few kinds of wonderful tape.

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RE: Rope for Bondage, which is the best? - 7/29/2010 4:06:29 PM   
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Well if you are looking specifically for "Bondage Rope" you are going to be paying alot, especially if you buy it in a brick&mortar store. There are a great many people who consider hemp to be superior for bondage. I think it all depends on what you want. I would suggest that there isn't "one type of rope that is best for bondage" The Two Knotty Boys use braided nylon rope in most of their instructional videos.

This is a list I copied from here. I left their advice on where it can be found, because it wasn't accurate in my opinion.
Here is another link with much better formatting.


  • MULTI FILAMENT POLYPROPYLENE (MFP)

    • Positives: I cant say enough good things about this rope! Its cheap, has great texture against the skin, comes in many designer colors, is easy to maintain, is lightweight meaning you can carry more in your toybag, and to top it all off it is waterproof making cleanup a snap. Knots seldom jam and it has very nice handling properties.
    • Negatives: This rope degrades quickly when exposed to ultraviolet light. But since the reasons perverts like us use rope indoors most of the time, this is not really an issue. It does stretch so it might not be a top choice for suspension. Also, it can sometimes be tough to get knots to hold as it is somewhat slick. And like any synthetic rope, there is no smell.

  • MONO FILAMENT POLYPROPYLENE

    • Positives: There is one use for this that makes it stand out as a choice for bondage rope. If you can get it colored light brown in bulk twist construction it will look for all the world like it is manila. But it will be twice as strong and lighter by a third. It is as easy to maintain and clean as multi filament polypropylene and is about the same cost. It holds knots very well without jamming.
    • Negatives: You will need to prep and condition this rope a lot before it has been broken in enough to use for erotic play. It stretches quite a bit making it of limited use for suspension. It also has 'memory' meaning that if you leave it tied into a coil for a long time between uses, when you untie it the rope will tend to stay in the shape of the coil you had it in. Like multi filament polypropylene it degrades in direct sunlight and has no smell.

  • NYLON

    • Positives: The texture of this rope is rather soft and pleasant, but it still has enough surface tooth that it holds knots well. It has very easy handling properties as well. Its main advantage is in its maintenance properties. The durability of this rope is second to none and it cleaned or even sanitized with ease. It is also one of the less expensive kinds of rope.
    • Negatives: This rope stretches. A lot! In some cases it can stretch up to 20 percent. You can forget about using it for suspension and even escapology scenes would suffer from a little. It can be a little tricky coming up with an adequate method to keep the ends from fraying. It has no smell.

  • HEMP

    • Positives: Smell! People just go totally ga-ga over the smell of this rope. As years of use on sailing ships will attest, this rope holds up great to water so any method of cleaning it works well. It handles well and holds knots extremely well. The texture, though not super-soft, is very pleasurable. There is nearly no stretch to it at all
    • Negatives: The cost of this rope makes it an upper-end item. The fibers used to construct it are against the law to grow in the united states and that drives the cost up a lot. In addition, the amount of maintenance needed to keep this rope in good working order puts it outside the range of all but the most dedicated rope-geek.

  • MANILA

    • Positives: About the only good thing I can say about this rope is that it is easy to get in thick diameters. It does hold knots well and handles ok.
    • Negatives: This requires an excessive amount of conditioning before it can be used for bondage. Straight out of the package it will leave splinters in the skin. And no matter what you do, you will never be able to get the oily/gasoline smell out of it. The texture is harsh and inflexible. When cleaning, it is best to dry it under tension least it change into a coiled spring.

  • SISAL

    • Positives: Cheap as dirt. Even cheaper if the dirt you are buying is fancy pottery soil. It wont cramp your budget at all to use this for a scene and then cut the ropes away instead of untying it (Insert blade-play fantasy of your choice here). There is a distinct smell that some people might like also
    • Negatives: Rot and mildew set in quick if this rope is left wet, making cleaning of it a pain. Shedding of fibers is going to continue no matter how long you own this rope and that may make for a messy playspace. Knots jam often meaning you might be forced to cut away the rope even if that wasn't part of the scene. Its got an itchy/tickling sensation that very few people would be into.

  • COTTON

    • Positives: This is the only rope that is soft while simultaneously having a high surface tooth for holding knots tight. Cleaning it is as simple and straightforward as cleaning cotton clothing.
    • Negatives: This stretches somewhat. More importantly it compresses. So a jammed knot is going to be irreversible jammed. It can be rather expensive depending on where you get it and why diameter you can find it in. It is also is one of the few natural fiber ropes that doesn't have a distinctive smell.

  • JUTE

    • Positives: It handles and holds knots at about the same level as hemp and is slightly cheaper. You also need less maintenance on the rope to keep it in good order. It has a very distinct smell that sometimes has been described as "grandma's attic". It has also been pointed out to me that jute will not show up as looking green on film the way hemp does.
    • Negatives: Cleaning this is the biggest drawback. I find it to be very prone to any kind of water damage. The texture against the skin isn't the best you can get from a rope.

  • SILK

    • Positives: Nearly indistinguishable from nylon in my experience. It handles the same. It holds knots the same. The texture against the skin is the same. But it has nearly no stretch to it at all.
    • Negatives: Everyone knows that cleaning silk is tough. Maintenance is a bit of a pain as I never have found an efficient way to keep the ends from unraveling. This is another natural fiber rope that has no smell.

  • FLAX

    • Positives: A friend of mine turned me on to this rope within the past year. It is ultra super soft and has excellent handling properties. The knots hold well without jamming. Cleaning is rather straightforward and without complications. Its also rather inexpensive if purchased in bulk.
    • Negatives: A big big downturn for this rope is that there tends to be small “husks” that are woven into the rope during the manufacturing process. These create a pinprick sensation on the skin from time to time if left in. They are easy enough to get out, if time consuming. Its unique smell somewhat like a freshly cut lawn can be somewhat of a distraction.



In addition to rope you might also consider nylon straps. This can be had in various shapes and sizes from places that carry climbing equipment. I get mine at REI. You can also get various buckles and connectors and what not.

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RE: Rope for Bondage, which is the best? - 8/6/2010 4:31:29 PM   
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quote:

  • HEMP
  • COTTON
    • Positives: This is the only rope that is soft while simultaneously having a high surface tooth for holding knots tight. Cleaning it is as simple and straightforward as cleaning cotton clothing.
    • Negatives: This stretches somewhat. More importantly it compresses. So a jammed knot is going to be irreversible jammed. It can be rather expensive depending on where you get it and why diameter you can find it in. It is also is one of the few natural fiber ropes that doesn't have a distinctive smell.


You miss the most important point though, it has a very low breaking strength rendering it utterly useless for all but the most basic floor bondages.

I also miss hempex in this list. It has a high breaking strength, low stretch, is easily cleaned, very light and looks pretty good. The only negative is that it's synthetic :-)

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RE: Rope for Bondage, which is the best? - 8/7/2010 8:24:28 AM   
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large diameter marine braid nylon for main lines and D-80-001-028/SF-001 & DSPM 2-2-80-028 spec cord for ancillary use. Both are nice and smooth and knot well.

But I like cuffs/leg restraints/zip cuffs more. Very secure, fast to undo, safe (in terms of cutting off blood flow) and easy to use.

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RE: Rope for Bondage, which is the best? - 11/14/2010 7:23:29 AM   
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I believe interlocutor put it best. Depend on what your going for. simple floor bondage, bed bondage, positional bondage, suspension, etc. And I would have to say Using more than just one piticular rope yeilds many more possiblities. As for ideas on were to buy most of the above mention are great ideas, However i didn't see Tractor Supplie up there. I just recently went to one and seen there wall of rope. It went from rope to tension wire to chain. And with so many selections of each your really only limited to your emagination and your own limits. Happy hunting.

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RE: Rope for Bondage, which is the best? - 11/15/2010 7:49:24 AM   
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What was wrong with the rope you bought at Home Depot?

I just bought really thick and nice looking black rope from Lowe's (same as Home Depot). I think I paid about 50c per foot. You have to wash your rope few times with fabric softener. Mine now is soft and nice, plus I really like that we were able to find black rope, as opposed to usual whites.


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RE: Rope for Bondage, which is the best? - 11/18/2010 9:02:29 AM   
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I use Home depot 3/4 inch shiny white nylon. Cut to 5, 15 and 25 foot lengths and use white duct tape to finish the ends. tie them in neat rolls for travel and that looks better when using them at the club.

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RE: Rope for Bondage, which is the best? - 11/18/2010 9:43:54 AM   
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I don't like nylon rope, when opening the knots you have to be very careful to avoid rope burns plus the stretch makes it a pain, I would recommend to go with very high quality cotton (there are different qualities, low quality cotton is what most have described only fit for floor bondage, when you find a rope maker who does prime quality cotton rope, you will be amazed at the difference though it is not cheap) or hemp (again not cheap) but both are extremely durable, extremely easy to clean (washing machine and dryer) which is important if you play with different people, and even if you play with the same person all the time, I like my tools and toys clean.

In the end you might invest more for good rope, but it will last you a lot longer.

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RE: Rope for Bondage, which is the best? - 11/18/2010 11:56:10 AM   
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....and use white duct tape to finish the ends. ...


You can also use heat-shrink tubing to finish ends. Just pull it on your rope and shirink it with little heat source, e.g. a ligher.


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RE: Rope for Bondage, which is the best? - 12/12/2010 5:37:46 AM   
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I use some 100 percent nylon rope (hard to find) , that I die myself ... Gotta be twisted rope for me, leaves much nicer marks..

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RE: Rope for Bondage, which is the best? - 12/12/2010 3:10:12 PM   
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Climbing rope; don't waste your money on 60 meters of super-expensive dynamic climbing rope, however; but short lengths of rope known as "static line" that is used for setting up anchors for climbing. If you need to cut it to specific lengths, wrap electrical tape tightly around the rope, and cut 2-3 mm away from the edge of the electrical tape to prevent fraying.

When cutting that kind of static rope I'd recommend melting the ends. Most places that sell it will cut it down and do that for you with a heated wire. If you do it yourself just cut it with a knife and melt the ends with a lighter then you can rap the ends with tape if you want.

However the rope crowd doesn't tend to be into climbing rope, there is a real hemp cult though.

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RE: Rope for Bondage, which is the best? - 12/12/2010 3:37:53 PM   
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quote:

then
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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterMagnus321

Climbing rope; don't waste your money on 60 meters of super-expensive dynamic climbing rope, however; but short lengths of rope known as "static line" that is used for setting up anchors for climbing. If you need to cut it to specific lengths, wrap electrical tape tightly around the rope, and cut 2-3 mm away from the edge of the electrical tape to prevent fraying.

When cutting that kind of static rope I'd recommend melting the ends. Most places that sell it will cut it down and do that for you with a heated wire. If you do it yourself just cut it with a knife and melt the ends with a lighter then you can rap the ends with tape if you want.

However the rope crowd doesn't tend to be into climbing rope, there is a real hemp cult though.

Actually, if you tape the rope before you cut and melt it, you'll get a much cleaner end.


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RE: Rope for Bondage, which is the best? - 12/15/2010 4:48:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TexasTilly

I am looking for the best rope to use for bondage on my sub.  I have purchased several different types from Home Depot but so far no good luck.  Does anyone have any suggestions?  and better yet any suggestions where I could find it except for online, like any chain stores. 


Hello,

Great topic, could be very informative for all of us.

Well, I am a rope bondage enthusiast and use ropes on a daily basis. I find ordinary cotton ropes pretty good, because cotton does not irritate the skin. I usually pick up my ropes from any DIY stores, such as B&Q (in England) or any other hardware stores. I find the 1cm (or half an inch) thick ropes the best, as they fit anyone. Also, I find the white or light coloured ropes the easiest to work with, because after I put them through 4 or 5 cycles in the washing machine, light coloured ropes are the easiest to mark in the middle. That way, they are the easiest to work with.

That is a personal opinion of a professional, who works with ropes on a daily basis. Working with ropes can be very personal so a professional's opinion might interfere with your own experience. I think you should try what suits you first and just use what you find the easiest to use on your sub.

Best of luck to you.
xxx

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RE: Rope for Bondage, which is the best? - 12/15/2010 4:55:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: interlocutor

Well if you are looking specifically for "Bondage Rope" you are going to be paying alot, especially if you buy it in a brick&mortar store. There are a great many people who consider hemp to be superior for bondage. I think it all depends on what you want. I would suggest that there isn't "one type of rope that is best for bondage" The Two Knotty Boys use braided nylon rope in most of their instructional videos.

This is a list I copied from here. I left their advice on where it can be found, because it wasn't accurate in my opinion.
Here is another link with much better formatting.


  • MULTI FILAMENT POLYPROPYLENE (MFP)

    • Positives: I cant say enough good things about this rope! Its cheap, has great texture against the skin, comes in many designer colors, is easy to maintain, is lightweight meaning you can carry more in your toybag, and to top it all off it is waterproof making cleanup a snap. Knots seldom jam and it has very nice handling properties.
    • Negatives: This rope degrades quickly when exposed to ultraviolet light. But since the reasons perverts like us use rope indoors most of the time, this is not really an issue. It does stretch so it might not be a top choice for suspension. Also, it can sometimes be tough to get knots to hold as it is somewhat slick. And like any synthetic rope, there is no smell.

  • MONO FILAMENT POLYPROPYLENE

    • Positives: There is one use for this that makes it stand out as a choice for bondage rope. If you can get it colored light brown in bulk twist construction it will look for all the world like it is manila. But it will be twice as strong and lighter by a third. It is as easy to maintain and clean as multi filament polypropylene and is about the same cost. It holds knots very well without jamming.
    • Negatives: You will need to prep and condition this rope a lot before it has been broken in enough to use for erotic play. It stretches quite a bit making it of limited use for suspension. It also has 'memory' meaning that if you leave it tied into a coil for a long time between uses, when you untie it the rope will tend to stay in the shape of the coil you had it in. Like multi filament polypropylene it degrades in direct sunlight and has no smell.

  • NYLON

    • Positives: The texture of this rope is rather soft and pleasant, but it still has enough surface tooth that it holds knots well. It has very easy handling properties as well. Its main advantage is in its maintenance properties. The durability of this rope is second to none and it cleaned or even sanitized with ease. It is also one of the less expensive kinds of rope.
    • Negatives: This rope stretches. A lot! In some cases it can stretch up to 20 percent. You can forget about using it for suspension and even escapology scenes would suffer from a little. It can be a little tricky coming up with an adequate method to keep the ends from fraying. It has no smell.

  • HEMP

    • Positives: Smell! People just go totally ga-ga over the smell of this rope. As years of use on sailing ships will attest, this rope holds up great to water so any method of cleaning it works well. It handles well and holds knots extremely well. The texture, though not super-soft, is very pleasurable. There is nearly no stretch to it at all
    • Negatives: The cost of this rope makes it an upper-end item. The fibers used to construct it are against the law to grow in the united states and that drives the cost up a lot. In addition, the amount of maintenance needed to keep this rope in good working order puts it outside the range of all but the most dedicated rope-geek.

  • MANILA

    • Positives: About the only good thing I can say about this rope is that it is easy to get in thick diameters. It does hold knots well and handles ok.
    • Negatives: This requires an excessive amount of conditioning before it can be used for bondage. Straight out of the package it will leave splinters in the skin. And no matter what you do, you will never be able to get the oily/gasoline smell out of it. The texture is harsh and inflexible. When cleaning, it is best to dry it under tension least it change into a coiled spring.

  • SISAL

    • Positives: Cheap as dirt. Even cheaper if the dirt you are buying is fancy pottery soil. It wont cramp your budget at all to use this for a scene and then cut the ropes away instead of untying it (Insert blade-play fantasy of your choice here). There is a distinct smell that some people might like also
    • Negatives: Rot and mildew set in quick if this rope is left wet, making cleaning of it a pain. Shedding of fibers is going to continue no matter how long you own this rope and that may make for a messy playspace. Knots jam often meaning you might be forced to cut away the rope even if that wasn't part of the scene. Its got an itchy/tickling sensation that very few people would be into.

  • COTTON

    • Positives: This is the only rope that is soft while simultaneously having a high surface tooth for holding knots tight. Cleaning it is as simple and straightforward as cleaning cotton clothing.
    • Negatives: This stretches somewhat. More importantly it compresses. So a jammed knot is going to be irreversible jammed. It can be rather expensive depending on where you get it and why diameter you can find it in. It is also is one of the few natural fiber ropes that doesn't have a distinctive smell.

  • JUTE

    • Positives: It handles and holds knots at about the same level as hemp and is slightly cheaper. You also need less maintenance on the rope to keep it in good order. It has a very distinct smell that sometimes has been described as "grandma's attic". It has also been pointed out to me that jute will not show up as looking green on film the way hemp does.
    • Negatives: Cleaning this is the biggest drawback. I find it to be very prone to any kind of water damage. The texture against the skin isn't the best you can get from a rope.

  • SILK

    • Positives: Nearly indistinguishable from nylon in my experience. It handles the same. It holds knots the same. The texture against the skin is the same. But it has nearly no stretch to it at all.
    • Negatives: Everyone knows that cleaning silk is tough. Maintenance is a bit of a pain as I never have found an efficient way to keep the ends from unraveling. This is another natural fiber rope that has no smell.

  • FLAX

    • Positives: A friend of mine turned me on to this rope within the past year. It is ultra super soft and has excellent handling properties. The knots hold well without jamming. Cleaning is rather straightforward and without complications. Its also rather inexpensive if purchased in bulk.
    • Negatives: A big big downturn for this rope is that there tends to be small “husks” that are woven into the rope during the manufacturing process. These create a pinprick sensation on the skin from time to time if left in. They are easy enough to get out, if time consuming. Its unique smell somewhat like a freshly cut lawn can be somewhat of a distraction.



In addition to rope you might also consider nylon straps. This can be had in various shapes and sizes from places that carry climbing equipment. I get mine at REI. You can also get various buckles and connectors and what not.


Fabulous research. However, It does not actually give the Original Person a real advise as to what to use.

Of course not, because the OP needs to find out what is best for him/her to use. My personal experience showed me, that I had to go through each and every single of the bondage ropes to find, that the cotton ones seem to be ok for everyone. (However, I still have a female slave, who still prefers the nylon thick ones. So, you really never know!!)

Regards,

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