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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/9/2010 3:02:28 PM

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Remember when they were suing everything that moved towards the end of the '90s? Dearie me.

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/9/2010 3:09:46 PM

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And by republican officials,elected and appointed.

I understand if this tread might get pulled.

But I still have to ask.

Why is this man given any credibility and or attention?

http://www.spin.com/articles/rock-n-roll-hall-sleaze

" Ted Nugent Madman; carnivore Best described as: Maniacal Claim to eternal infamy: Though best known today as a guy who'd rather be bow-hunting, the Nuge cut a wide swath through the untamed pubic hair of the 1970s. His crowning achievement occurred in 1978, when Nugent became the legal guardian of a 17-year-old Hawaiian girl"

http://www.activemusician.com/Ted-Nugent-Biography--t8i2885

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Nugent

Owner, couldn't you ask the same question about Woody Allen? He's a "darling" of the left.
And if memory serves, Bill Clinton likes 'em "young" too.

Then you`re agreeing with me, concerning uncle teddy.

Personally,I can`t watch a Woody Allen movie any more.I used to love them.From "Everything You Wanted To Know About Sex But Were Afraid To Ask" and Sleeper all the way up to "Annie Hall"The guy made good art.But I don`t see him on left TV or moralizing,though.

It`s the hypocrisy folks can`t stand.

I turn the radio when I hear Jackson Brown(beating his g/f to a pulp),Michael Jackson(nuff said) or uncle teddy(same).

Another I can`t watch anymore.Mel Gibson(racist) ,

I also don`t like what Clinton did either and have said so.It was very selfish and immature and destructive.

When people sum Clinton or Sen. Byrd or anyone else up,I don`t think anyone deserves a pass.Their positive traits are matched against their flaws.Good works against mistakes.When people consider those mis-deeds Pop,they also take into account contrition and taking responsibility and such. But no one should escape scrutiny for what they did,15 years ago of 55 years ago.

The same goes for uncle ted.

Owner, Robert "Sheets" Bird was (((47))) years old when he voted against the Civil Rights Act! We're not talking about a "youthfull discretion" here!
As for Clinton, what did he ever do that was "good" for the country? "Nafta?" "Bosnia?" "Kosovo?" Did he catch Bin Laden when he had him in his grasp?
There's another post about rating the presidents. If I were Nixon's ghost I'd be happy that there were other presidents like Clinton, Carter, Wilson, LBJ. and Bush-3!

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/9/2010 3:17:34 PM

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As for Clinton, what did he ever do that was "good" for the country?

Cut the tax on capital gains. Which more than paid for itself as a result of the economic stimulus it provided.

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/9/2010 3:29:09 PM

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Start your own thread Pop.

So what was so bad about stopping a genocide in Europe?

Does "never again" only apply to Jewish people?

And Clinton kicked ass on the economy.Almost every number and indicator going in the right direction.Before your flip-flop on bush,before bush turned every number downward,you liked the guy and said so.

My beef with Clinton was the bj and allowing Ruanda go for way to long,til it was to late for many folks there.

And at least he tried to get bin-laden.During the bombings,your GOP buddies were shouting "no war for Monica,no war for Monica"

Which was another way of shouting,"no war against bin-laden,no war against bin-laden".It`s the same thing.

And what did bush do his 1st 9 months in office about bin-laden?

Anyone?

What exactly did bush do in his first nine months in office to get bin-laden?

I know one thing bush did relating to terrorism.

He demoted Richard Clark and eliminated his cabinet post position on terrorism.

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/9/2010 3:49:57 PM

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Owner, "stopping a genocide in Europe?"
Well gee, was that really the problem of the (((U.S.))) to do?
How were we being threatened?
And if that was the case then why didn't (((EUROPE))) handle it? There was no U.S. interest there!
Same thing with Ruwanda.
And "the numbers" started going down while Clinton was president, in March of 2000!
Bill was good for the economy, Bill Gates!

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/9/2010 3:56:11 PM

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Owner, "stopping a genocide in Europe?"
Well gee, was that really the problem of the (((U.S.))) to do?
How were we being threatened?
And if that was the case then why didn't (((EUROPE))) handle it? There was no U.S. interest there!

In which case, perhaps Europe should have told you to fuck off and fight your own war in Afghanistan? I really hope you weren't one of the idiots throwing a shitfit about France refusing to have anything to do with the invasion of Iraq...

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/9/2010 4:09:22 PM

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Owner, "stopping a genocide in Europe?"
Well gee, was that really the problem of the (((U.S.))) to do?
How were we being threatened?
And if that was the case then why didn't (((EUROPE))) handle it? There was no U.S. interest there!
Same thing with Ruwanda.
And "the numbers" started going down while Clinton was president, in March of 2000!
Bill was good for the economy, Bill Gates!

We`re the head of NATO.

That`s why.

I see you ducked the bush/bin-laden question.

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/9/2010 4:45:54 PM

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What you`re saying is that you`d have no problem sending your 17 y/o daughter(or someone else`s minor)to sleep with a 30 year old man.

Did I get that correct?

The Polanski thing was quite a trip.lol How many did you take to get there?

Why are you assuming that they had sex?

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/9/2010 4:50:47 PM

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Uncle teddy remains un-apologetic.

Ted is dead. Just so you know.

And Byrd did not show a lot of contrition. Enough to satisfy the democrats but not much else.

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/9/2010 8:26:59 PM

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Uncle teddy remains un-apologetic.

Ted is dead. Just so you know.

Ummmm Who Told you Ted Nugent was dead? WHEN? I just saw him on Anthony Bordain... and I listened to him on a life talk show three days ago....

When the hell did her die?

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/9/2010 8:42:36 PM

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I think that she thinks you are referring to Ted Kennedy.....that's the take I got when I first read her post.....it's the only explanation...Nugent makes way too much noise for anyone to assume he's dead!

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/9/2010 10:00:12 PM

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Owner, "stopping a genocide in Europe?"
Well gee, was that really the problem of the (((U.S.))) to do?
How were we being threatened?
And if that was the case then why didn't (((EUROPE))) handle it? There was no U.S. interest there!
Same thing with Ruwanda.
And "the numbers" started going down while Clinton was president, in March of 2000!
Bill was good for the economy, Bill Gates!

We`re the head of NATO.

That`s why.

I see you ducked the bush/bin-laden question.

Owner, and just which NATO country was threatened?
And correct me if I'm wrong but don't all member NATO countries take a turn at the helm? Isn't Holland or Denmark in charge now?

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/10/2010 9:32:08 AM

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None were.That`s not an issue tho,when you start see mass graves and rape camps."never again" ,Pops, is NOT just for Jewish folks. And like or not,we are leading NATO.

The only con who gave a shit about that genocide was crazy-cute Bob Dornan,God bless him.He was the only republican to speak out.The rest were as dead silent as the fresh bodies in those mass graves.

I guess you and the other cons could have watched mass grave after mass grave getting filled or continually read about the wholesale ,systematic rape of every Muslim female captured but normal,good Americans couldn`t.

In fact Pop,your radical rightist buddies rush limbaugh and his listeners were calling Gen Westley Clark ,a war criminal!

Which,come to think about it, might explain why they embrace jerkoffs like neugent.

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/10/2010 1:10:26 PM

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None were.That`s not an issue tho,when you start see mass graves and rape camps."never again" ,Pops, is NOT just for Jewish folks. And like or not,we are leading NATO.

The only con who gave a shit about that genocide was crazy-cute Bob Dornan,God bless him.He was the only republican to speak out.The rest were as dead silent as the fresh bodies in those mass graves.

I guess you and the other cons could have watched mass grave after mass grave getting filled or continually read about the wholesale ,systematic rape of every Muslim female captured but normal,good Americans couldn`t.

In fact Pop,your radical rightist buddies rush limbaugh and his listeners were calling Gen Westley Clark ,a war criminal!

Which,come to think about it, might explain why they embrace jerkoffs like neugent.

Owner, which NATO country was attacked? That's a simple enough question isn't it?
So I guess you were "cool" with Bush going into Iraq and Afganistan then?

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/10/2010 1:56:07 PM

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The dopey act doesn`t work for you Pops.

There were no NATO countries attacked.That was never an issue.

The Genocide in Europe was.Again Pops,"never again" didn`t just refer to the nazi Holocaust.

If you`re going to play intellectual chess on this issue Pops,you`re going to have to admit that you`re ok with genocide and rape camps.

Again,I`m sure you would have ok to sit back and watch the genocide on the evening news with the rest of the cons.Normal folks aren`t ok with that.

Normal Americans had no problem helping to stop another genocide in Europe.

And again,cuz you seem extra dense today.Afghanistan is a legit war.

Your fucktard bush`s Iraq/torture/Abu-Ghraib/GI killing adventure was NOT legit.

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/10/2010 3:04:30 PM

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So you advocate a racist policy of protecting white folks, while telling the darkies and muslims to go pound sand. The rape rooms in Iraq meant nothing. Rwanda meant nothing.

But Never Again (shall white folks in Europe)......

Nice.

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/10/2010 4:01:06 PM

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You`re all class dogie.

All of it low.

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/10/2010 4:16:06 PM

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The dopey act doesn`t work for you Pops.

There were no NATO countries attacked.That was never an issue.

The Genocide in Europe was.Again Pops,"never again" didn`t just refer to the nazi Holocaust.

If you`re going to play intellectual chess on this issue Pops,you`re going to have to admit that you`re ok with genocide and rape camps.

Again,I`m sure you would have ok to sit back and watch the genocide on the evening news with the rest of the cons.Normal folks aren`t ok with that.

Normal Americans had no problem helping to stop another genocide in Europe.

And again,cuz you seem extra dense today.Afghanistan is a legit war.

Your fucktard bush`s Iraq/torture/Abu-Ghraib/GI killing adventure was NOT legit.

Owner, it is an issue! The sole reason NATO exists is to fend off attacks of member countries from the Soviet Union! That's in their charter and when the old Soviet Union ceased to exist NATO had no further purpose.
It should be disbanded!
And as for Bosnia or Kosovo if any outside help was offered it should have come from neighboring countries not from the U.S. 5,000 miles away!
I heard a psychologist say that the reason that that sick bastard Clinton got us involved over there is that he , "had pangs of guilt for not going to Vietnam." "Bosnia and Kosovo were "Clinton's Wars." "He finally "served."
Remember him saying he was, "in the military, because I am the Commander in Cheif?" Hillary even said that she tried to join the Marines! Why didn't she? They would have taken her! Owner, those people and people like them are called, ((("phoneys."))) None of the guys I grew up with ever had a problem joining the military, nor did I. I was gone in three weeks!
I believe in the year 1992 there were 59 wars and skirmishes in the world. So to your way of thinking we should activate the Marines everytime someone in the whole world starts shooting at each other or lopping off heads with machetes? Ok, let's put Marines on that Mexican border to "deal with" the drug cartels who like to lop off heads with machetes! You "cool" with that?
You're talking out both sides of your mouth about Iraq! I guess you conveniently "forgot" about the tens of thousands of KURDS who Saddam Hussein and "Chemical Ali" gassed up in N. Iraq! (Clinton - good, Bush- bad?)
That wasn't "genocide" then?
And the term "Never Again" belongs to the Jewish People. It's not for you to cheapen for your own specious arguments.
I don't know where this type of convoluted thinking comes from that "assumes" that the U.S. is the "world's police, fire and rescue service."
We're not!
Back in the 1930's they had something called "The Abraham Lincoln Brigade."
It was for people like you who felt strongly about Spain's civil war so that they could go over there and pick up a rifle and fight and maybe get killed!
Maybe you and some friends should activate it again eh? I mean if you're that sensitive and all.

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/10/2010 7:30:18 PM

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We had the discussion durng the conflict Pop.

You`re a bit late at this point.

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/10/2010 9:48:10 PM

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We had the discussion durng the conflict Pop.

You`re a bit late at this point.

Oh, can't come up with anything eh?

Oh, I wasn't aware that Ted Nugent was embraced by the right wing media. Isn't he a long haired hippie type?
I have to confess that I don't know anything about him but I've heard that name somewhere, "Motor City Madman" I think, rock and roll guy.

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