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RE: becoming a better boy - 7/10/2010 9:35:26 AM   
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Michael.....If you approached me with your attitude, i would tell you in no uncertain terms, you are a mess.

You are ignoring your strengths to focus on your weaknesses. It may work for you, but while your focus is on what you profess to need help changing, your strong points are becoming stagnant.

Perhaps i might suggest you focus on and build on your positive points with limited focus on the negatives. In doing so, you may find that your negatives have tagged along and gained improvement as you bettered yourself through a positive attitude.

DAMN! How does one quote a WHOLE string / thread for TRUTH!!  ?

michael, you are getting advice here that is worth more than I can say.  "More than I can say," because it is priceless.  Dollars don't even get close.

As I mentioned in CMail earlier, try to stop with the negatives.  Simply try to cast your words in a positive way.  That does NOT mean that you should be all Pollyann-ish about life.  It means to say things like "I'm hoping to find someone to help me make change in my life."

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I have some good points. But focusing on what I am good at, do well and such have not gotten me to improve on the things I know I need to improve upon to become the boy I want to be.

I think my initial introduction may have given the wrong impression, but I am working on improving myself so that I am worthy to offer myself to a Master.


And since your "initial introduction [gave] the wrong impression," here's your chance to re-write it.  That's an order, boy.  That's how I'll help you right here, right now.  Sentence by sentence, thought by thought...... turn that OP around to give us the RIGHT impression.............  Wha'cha got?

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RE: becoming a better boy - 7/10/2010 10:41:24 AM   
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Psst, Mr Lance, er, Sir...

It's Pollyanna-ish.



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RE: becoming a better boy - 7/10/2010 8:41:46 PM   
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Psst, Mr Lance, er, Sir...

It's Pollyanna-ish.




Thanks!  See, boymichaelobeys?  Correct approach (except it's Mr. Hughes), helpful comment, AND attitude, attitude, attitude all over the place.

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RE: becoming a better boy - 7/10/2010 8:49:39 PM   
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You're welcome, Mr La-, er, Mr Hughes, Sir.

i hope it was helpful, though my only attitude is sweet and innocent... MOSTLY.
*looks around for holly and the rest of them*

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RE: becoming a better boy - 7/10/2010 9:46:11 PM   
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You're welcome, Mr La-, er, Mr Hughes, Sir.

i hope it was helpful, though my only attitude is sweet and innocent... MOSTLY.
*looks around for holly and the rest of them*

I meant "GOOD attitude, attitude, attitude".  As in "she has a good attitude."  Yes, when "attitude" is used without an adjective, it usually implies a "bad" attitude.  Ex: "She has such an attitude."  Ex: "All I got from her at work today was attitude, attitude, attitude."

I'm looking for a man with a "Yes, Sir" attitude <see profile>, so sometimes I just forget to qualify the word.

Also, attitude can be fun - except those SAMs and brats and the like - they just wear me out.  I'll might go 'round once or twice and then punish them by simply withdrawing.

Summary?  dreamofthemoon, I had fun.  I'm not punishing you, but this old man needs be in bed (and asleep, you perverts. LOL! Local time pushing 11 PM) 

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RE: becoming a better boy - 7/11/2010 3:54:23 AM   
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You're welcome, Mr La-, er, Mr Hughes, Sir.

i hope it was helpful, though my only attitude is sweet and innocent... MOSTLY.
*looks around for holly and the rest of them*
*snorts loudly*

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RE: becoming a better boy - 7/11/2010 3:56:27 AM   
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this old man needs be in bed
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and asleep, you perverts.
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RE: becoming a better boy - 7/11/2010 4:44:12 AM   
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You're welcome, Mr La-, er, Mr Hughes, Sir.

i hope it was helpful, though my only attitude is sweet and innocent... MOSTLY.
*looks around for holly and the rest of them*
*snorts loudly*

wha-?  i am, too.  See? ~>

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RE: becoming a better boy - 7/11/2010 5:10:49 AM   
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You're welcome, Mr La-, er, Mr Hughes, Sir.

i hope it was helpful, though my only attitude is sweet and innocent... MOSTLY.
*looks around for holly and the rest of them*

I meant "GOOD attitude, attitude, attitude".  As in "she has a good attitude."  Yes, when "attitude" is used without an adjective, it usually implies a "bad" attitude.  Ex: "She has such an attitude."  Ex: "All I got from her at work today was attitude, attitude, attitude."

I'm looking for a man with a "Yes, Sir" attitude <see profile>, so sometimes I just forget to qualify the word.

Also, attitude can be fun - except those SAMs and brats and the like - they just wear me out.  I'll might go 'round once or twice and then punish them by simply withdrawing.

Summary?  dreamofthemoon, I had fun.  I'm not punishing you, but this old man needs be in bed (and asleep, you perverts. LOL! Local time pushing 11 PM) 

i know what you meant, Mr Hughes Sir.  

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RE: becoming a better boy - 7/11/2010 2:06:19 PM   
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My life lacks focus. I am fat, I am broke, I am working a job that is going nowhere. I am not getting any younger and I won't make change on my own.

I--with the help of Masters and interested parties--am going to set up rules to live by and I am going to report honestly and fully and I am going to have consequences if I fail.

I need to get in shape.

I need discipline. I need order, I need to remake my life into something of value to myself and someone else.

Please check out the blog at betterboyblog.blogspot.com

Thank you.


I just re-read the OP.... seems I went to far on the [slave....boy] contiumum.

On the other hand, he might be a perfect fit for me, being the 25% Master with 75% Daddy that I am.

So, do y'all think he should get "Becoming a Slave," by Rinella? 

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RE: becoming a better boy - 7/11/2010 2:54:45 PM   
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Sounds good he needs sumfin,lol ~ jewels

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RE: becoming a better boy - 7/11/2010 5:13:55 PM   
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As long as ya'll have some connection, that would be wonderful. He sounds like a nice guy and I know you are. He would be lucky to have someone like you.

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RE: becoming a better boy - 7/11/2010 7:03:59 PM   
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As long as ya'll have some connection, that would be wonderful. He sounds like a nice guy and I know you are. He would be lucky to have someone like you.

Why, thank you, darlin'

But in particular, I'm thinking "Becoming A Slave" might not be where he wants / needs to go.  Of course, I have asked him via CMail, but I'm wondering if y'all got the same sense that I did - he seems to want a very structured life with all decisions made for him, "Toe the line, Mister!"

But I'm sure you all agree slavery does not solve your problems for you.  At first glance, looks like it does, but not so.

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RE: becoming a better boy - 7/12/2010 7:38:25 AM   
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It doesn't solve all your problems, but if you're the flighty creative type (like me) and have a master who is extremely structured (like HM) it does help to make the flighty one more organized. At least it did for me.

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RE: becoming a better boy - 7/12/2010 9:02:54 AM   
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RE: becoming a better boy - 7/12/2010 2:47:44 PM   
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It doesn't solve all your problems, but if you're the flighty creative type (like me) and have a master who is extremely structured (like HM) it does help to make the flighty one more organized. At least it did for me.


That's me as well. Pure Pisces.
Master is so organized, he is a little ocd about it, but we balance each other.

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RE: becoming a better boy - 7/12/2010 4:06:12 PM   
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Michael, you seem to be in a place that makes me wonder a few things. You say you aren't ready to serve a master but you need one to basically serve you, to make you a better person you for whatever reason cannot do yourself. What would the purpose be for that dominant willing to help you? There is always the feel good about helping another person be all that they can be, but it is a lot of work. I don't think I said that well enough! It is a whole hell of a lot of work, energy and time to put into someone who has nothing to offer back even if one were to be foolish enough to believe they did it in hopes of one day creating a half decent submissive. Then there is always that part where you spend all that time and effort of self, giving to another who will go find another when you are done. lol

So what you are looking for is someone to donate a lot of time, energy and themselves to help you with nothing in return or expected. Most wish for more than a feel good in helping someone, even former Polly Anna types like me. I did help people... what I got was people not invested enough in themselves to stand by what they committed to in change, lies, games and them walking away when they really were required to do something and stay the course they couldn't stay before me. I would have done it for the reward of helping someone alone, but to put myself out there and get nothing but trouble for my time and a waste of my time... no thank you.

I would recommend starting with one area of your life that you wish to change and start working a bit of a program you put together with the goal of being ready for a relationship of whatever kind you seek and stop seeking the bonus (attention) before you can prove to yourself and others... you're worth the effort. Then maybe someone might see walking the rest of it with you.


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RE: becoming a better boy - 7/12/2010 7:10:32 PM   
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Michael, you seem to be in a place that makes me wonder a few things. You say you aren't ready to serve a master but you need one to basically serve you, to make you a better person you for whatever reason cannot do yourself. What would the purpose be for that dominant willing to help you? There is always the feel good about helping another person be all that they can be, but it is a lot of work. I don't think I said that well enough! It is a whole hell of a lot of work, energy and time to put into someone who has nothing to offer back even if one were to be foolish enough to believe they did it in hopes of one day creating a half decent submissive. Then there is always that part where you spend all that time and effort of self, giving to another who will go find another when you are done. lol

So what you are looking for is someone to donate a lot of time, energy and themselves to help you with nothing in return or expected. Most wish for more than a feel good in helping someone, even former Polly Anna types like me. I did help people... what I got was people not invested enough in themselves to stand by what they committed to in change, lies, games and them walking away when they really were required to do something and stay the course they couldn't stay before me. I would have done it for the reward of helping someone alone, but to put myself out there and get nothing but trouble for my time and a waste of my time... no thank you.

I would recommend starting with one area of your life that you wish to change and start working a bit of a program you put together with the goal of being ready for a relationship of whatever kind you seek and stop seeking the bonus (attention) before you can prove to yourself and others... you're worth the effort. Then maybe someone might see walking the rest of it with you.


Well said, Lockit.

I've been questioning my own motives here..... Yes, there's a lot of altruism in me.  I think that's good as far as it goes.  boymicahelobeys seems to be highly motivated to "fix" himself.  He has started to do so without anyone's help - he has a decent blog which gives further detail on what he's doing.  So far, so good.

Investment of my time equal to any return on that investment?  I'm not sure.  And as you point out, the investment may pay off negative returns.

Is it "cold" to talk about relationships in terms of cold, hard cash?  Maybe, maybe not.  But it certainly gives one another perspective.

Thanks for your post.

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RE: becoming a better boy - 7/12/2010 9:01:12 PM   
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I'm very glad that HM saw a "good" return on his investment. Today I did something to help his grandmother, and his great-uncle that everyone else in his family seemed powerless to do. He thanked me several times. Honestly, I didn't do it *for* him, although I do love him and want to help. I did it because it was the right thing to do.

I don't become friends with people because of what they can do for me, although the friends I do have, the friendship often pays off in unusual and unexpected ways. I'm quite sure had someone asked me, or if I had asked them, "what can you do for me?" the friendship/relationship would not have developed, or if it had, may have developed quite differently.

I did know, when looking for a dom, I was looking for more structure than I had in my life. I understood the "usual" bdsm relationship (yeah, yeah I know) to have structure; I needed that, and looked for it. I did look for more than some dom to give me structure though. I looked for someone I could look up to, laugh with, someone extremely intelligent, and someone who could understand (and hopefully appreciate and enjoy) my joie de vivre, and my silly sense of humour.

"What have you done for me lately?" makes a great song, but in relationships...sometimes it's 90/10 and sometimes it's 10/90. It doesn't even have to average out in the end...as long as those in the relationship are happy and fulfilled.


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RE: becoming a better boy - 7/13/2010 12:53:37 AM   
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Very nicely said. i think W/we tend to forget that relationships are give and take and at times,it's one taking more for a strech of time while they need the support. Life is like a bank account,in that you invest in it and occaisonally when a need arises you draw for the strength of the other while you fall or need someone to lean on. People are way too much "me me" in the life nowadays to see past that at times unfortuantely. ~ jewels

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