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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Save for the fact that the majority of people we are talking about simply commit the one crime(the illegal entry) so that they can have the opportunity to work and make a better life for their children.
Not exactly on the same scale as deciding to make a living as a bank robber because your ass is too lazy to earn an honest buck!

Bank robbery is one crime as well, mike.

As far as being too lazy to earn an honest buck, we could toss all the illegals in that lot as well.... cant they do the paperwork required to be legal?

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Spit all you like. There is a process. Many others dont believe themselves above the law to take part in that process. Many do. Should we just toss out the process because it doesnt work fast enough for some? Its real easy to sit and preach from the cheap seats, on both sides of the fence. If someone stole your car and took it to a chop shop so they could feed their kids, what would be your response? How about if they stole your ID (SS) would you be so pleasant? You dont see this as affecting you, so you can be snide and nasty, when no one else is. Problem is, it is costing someone plenty. It could very well be you tomorrow. Or today, or even yesterday. When did you last check?

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It seems to me that she is forcing both the Federal Government and the ACLU to prove their assertions that the law is illegal and could harm those here legally.

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"Why can't Arizona be as inhospitable as they wish to people who have entered the United States illegally?" she said.

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economic advantages those same states have gained by having an excess of cheap labor at their disposal.

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We either accept them all as US citizens, giving amnesty, something i am very much against. Or we send them back home.

Any other decision is picking and choosing who are the has (those who stay) or the has nots (those who leave).

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they freaking loathe what is going on down there the mass frenzy to hunt for illegal aliens, stopping cars willy nilly, having check throughs. It is not the way to go.

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People in love with the law scare me.

The law is seriously, seriously seriously f l a w e d !

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the Iroquois were rocking it

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the Iroquois were rocking it

Absolutely right, if by "rocking it" you mean losing a fair percentage of your population to starvation mos winters, and dying of old age at 50. The American Indians that compose no small part of my DNA were stone age savages, modern romantic nonsense notwithstanding.

Ever had a toothache? Ever wonder what stone age saveges did with a toothache? broken bones? Burns? Infections? Drought?
Mostly. we/they died, thats how.

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We either accept them all as US citizens, giving amnesty, something i am very much against. Or we send them back home.

Any other decision is picking and choosing who are the has (those who stay) or the has nots (those who leave).

My kneejerk reaction is to tell them all to go home. But that's just wrong, when I think about it. We do, I think, in the end, have to pick and choose.

The guy who has been here 20 years, stayed out of trouble, supported himself, raised children who are American citizens and who are now having babies of their own who are American citizens. I think we have to give that guy a pretty easy path to permanent legal resident status, maaaaybe even citizenshio.

The illegal alien who found a way to serve in our armed forces and pulled a tour in Iraq? I'd be proud to be at his citizenship ceremony.

The guy with multiple criminal convictions? I don't care how long he's been here... goodbye.

The guy who's been here two years... adios.

The folks who have been here ten years, most taking advantage of social/medical services... we just cannot afford them.

Something along those guidelines, in my opinion. But if there are twelve million illegal aliens, there are twelve million stories...

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Ok, but the guy that has been here two years could be just as law abiding otherwise. And the guy who has been here 20 may just not have been caught yet at drug smuggling.

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

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We either accept them all as US citizens, giving amnesty, something i am very much against. Or we send them back home.

Any other decision is picking and choosing who are the has (those who stay) or the has nots (those who leave).

My kneejerk reaction is to tell them all to go home. But that's just wrong, when I think about it. We do, I think, in the end, have to pick and choose.

The guy who has been here 20 years, stayed out of trouble, supported himself, raised children who are American citizens and who are now having babies of their own who are American citizens. I think we have to give that guy a pretty easy path to permanent legal resident status, maaaaybe even citizenshio.

The illegal alien who found a way to serve in our armed forces and pulled a tour in Iraq? I'd be proud to be at his citizenship ceremony.

The guy with multiple criminal convictions? I don't care how long he's been here... goodbye.

The guy who's been here two years... adios.

The folks who have been here ten years, most taking advantage of social/medical services... we just cannot afford them.

Something along those guidelines, in my opinion. But if there are twelve million illegal aliens, there are twelve million stories...

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Some of that might have been publicity over 1070 but since it isnt even effective yet,

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Some are here because their visa's ran out. Whats the penalty if they get caught? Is there one? Is it considered a crime, even if that crime is a misdemeanor?

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The huge majority of Arizonans support this law.

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Enforce laws against hiring them and watch how fast they self deport.