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TheHeretic -> RE: The conservative outrage continues (7/25/2010 9:08:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

That's a lovely image.

Thanks for sharing.




Anytime.




Sanity -> RE: The conservative outrage continues (7/25/2010 9:35:26 PM)


Some people believe that when they use water, drink it or bathe in it, it goes away forever?

How bizarre.

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Really? I doubt that you drink your own piss, somehow.



Not immediately, but the water you drank this morning, and showered in, was probably dinosaur pee, 60 million years ago. Water is very old. It just keeps cycling through the system.




NeedToUseYou -> RE: The conservative outrage continues (7/25/2010 9:36:52 PM)

I don't understand why this would be implemented on the federal level.

Around here, we have plenty of water. Why should I be restricted, even if I wanted to use 50 Gallons a minute on a shower, it would not matter.

Now, in Arizona or Nevada, or any of major cities, sure, but some areas actually have enough water.


Anyway, I'd just install two or three standard shower head if I wanted more flow, that would be nicer away, one on the head, one on the crotch, and a slanted one at 45 degrees.




TheHeretic -> RE: The conservative outrage continues (7/25/2010 9:43:39 PM)

That's exactly what this law is going after, Need. They want to rewrite the definitions and call your described system a single "showerhead."

If the OP is thinking that fucking with one of the great simple pleasures of life, a long hot shower, is only going to bother conservatives, he might need to get out a bit more.




NeedToUseYou -> RE: The conservative outrage continues (7/25/2010 10:26:52 PM)

I read it to mean, they couldn't sell them "premade" or whanot.


For areas, that have a problem with water availability, they should just make the shower water run to a in house small "reservoir" that is then used in the toilet. Then you don't have to dick with small flushes or small showers, as all flushes most of the time will be using shower water.

A few things in life are off bounds.

"Partial List"
You don't fuck another mans woman.
You don't fuck with anothers man's food or drink.
You don't fuck with a man's shower.
You don't fuck with a man's sleep.
You don't fuck with a man's vehicle.




thornhappy -> RE: The conservative outrage continues (7/26/2010 8:08:02 PM)

Hey, you forgot the man's tools!




MrRodgers -> RE: The conservative outrage continues (7/28/2010 7:02:53 AM)

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Its not expensive, its commonplace, and nature recycles water abundantly to begin with. Water is recycled in the United States at treatment plants as well. I live out of town and mine goes into a septic system and helps water my pasture, which is as cheap as recycling gets.

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Water is totally recyclable.

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ORIGINAL: DarlingSavage

Water is quickly becoming a scarce resource and shouldn't be wasted.  If use isn't regulated, you can count on it becoming more scarce. 

About 1% of ALL the water on Earth is fit and available for the consumption of humans and other organisms.  There are well over 6 billion people in the world and that number is rising every second.  Abuse of natural resources is not a topic that should be taken lightly.


...and is extremely expensive to do so. For that matter, one could say with all of the oceans we have no shortage at all.

The water in question is potable water not including any that goes into the ground or need be or reclaimed which is of course...more accurate.


Using water for crops is not recycling. If it was then where is the 4 trillion gals. gone from the original 6 trillion in our Ogallala aquifer ? Why is that now being rationed ? Is that water here ?

Yes, it's either consumed in photosynthesis or it is vapor, i.e....no longer potable water.




DomYngBlk -> RE: The conservative outrage continues (7/28/2010 7:22:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

And getting dumber by the week:


Crackdown on ultra-luxurious showerheads


Gene Goforth sells showerheads—big ones, like the Raindance Imperial 600 AIR. Selling for as much as $5,457, it has a 24-inch spray face, 358 no-clog channels and a triple-massage option. "You can just stand under it, and it helps your psyche," says Mr. Goforth, who has one in his home.

Now, Mr. Goforth is in a lather over the federal government's tough new line on water-hogging showerheads, part of a new effort to enforce energy- and water-use regulations. "Leave my shower alone," Mr. Goforth recently wrote in a letter to the Department of Energy.

Regulators are going after some of the luxury shower fixtures that took off in the housing boom. Many have multiple nozzles, cost thousands of dollars and emit as many as 12 gallons of water a minute.

In May, the DOE stunned the plumbing-products industry when it said it would adopt a strict definition of the term "showerhead" in enforcing standards that have been on the books—but largely unenforced—for nearly 20 years.

Industry response has been fast and furious. "It was not the legislative intent of Congress to authorize DOE to regulate the bathing habits of Americans," wrote Frederick Desborough, vice president of California Faucets, a Huntington Beach, Calif., manufacturer, in a letter to the DOE in June.

The showdown is a challenge to President Barack Obama and his energy secretary, Steven Chu, as they try to cajole—or compel—Americans to use water and energy more efficiently.




Only an American. The dumbass lives in a semi arid desert and thinks that water just flows into a desert by magic!




Sanity -> RE: The conservative outrage continues (7/28/2010 8:19:21 AM)


These sweeping federal laws are based on the false premise that once water is consumed its gone forever. Technically its not consumed, it cycles and will come back and if theres a problem with your particular aquifer then there are ways of regulating whats drawn from it, but its not a jurisdiction of the federal government, its too much control at that level. It infringes on everyone elses liberty for the president to tell me what kind of shower head I may or may not install because of your local problem.

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Using water for crops is not recycling. If it was then where is the 4 trillion gals. gone from the original 6 trillion in our Ogallala aquifer ? Why is that now being rationed ? Is that water here ?

Yes, it's either consumed in photosynthesis or it is vapor, i.e....no longer potable water.





mnottertail -> RE: The conservative outrage continues (7/28/2010 8:22:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
These sweeping federal laws are based on the false premise that once water is consumed its gone forever.


No, they're not.




StrangerThan -> RE: The conservative outrage continues (7/28/2010 12:25:41 PM)

so change the name, something like.. super hydrating oscillating water energizing re-distributor. That way I can say, I want a s.h.o.w.e.r. head not a shower head stupid.

And yeah, not sure what this has to do with conservatives other than maybe the simmering hatred just won't go away long enough to have a rational thought.




thishereboi -> RE: The conservative outrage continues (7/28/2010 12:30:41 PM)


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I don't think Australia where Kerry's yacht was built has the same govt. restrictions.


I don't know about government restrictions but Australia definitely conserves water. In the more inland areas during the summer it's sort of rationed (I think it's just really expensive if you go over a certain number of gallons) and I haven't seen a toilet here that didn't have 2 flush options - one full flush and one using a lot less water.

I've never gone shopping for showerheads here so idk about that.


Used to be flush commodes had a capacity of 3.0 gallons per flush in the States but they are now mandated at 1.5 gal I think. But the paper has gotten thicker. Now it is necessary often to flush twice. Kinda ironic.


Or cross the border into Canada and buy your toilet there.




mnottertail -> RE: The conservative outrage continues (7/28/2010 12:37:09 PM)

pick me up some good cubans if you go after the hydrozolized crapper, will ya bud?




thishereboi -> RE: The conservative outrage continues (7/28/2010 12:42:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

That's exactly what this law is going after, Need. They want to rewrite the definitions and call your described system a single "showerhead."

If the OP is thinking that fucking with one of the great simple pleasures of life, a long hot shower, is only going to bother conservatives, he might need to get out a bit more.



Yea, my ex leans far left and the first thing she does when she moves into a new place, is to get her friend over to fix her shower so it shoots out more water. Maybe the op doesn't realize liberals like to be clean also.




Lucylastic -> RE: The conservative outrage continues (7/28/2010 2:04:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
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, but its not a jurisdiction of the federal government, its too much control at that level. It infringes on everyone elses liberty for the president to tell me what kind of shower head I may or may not install because of your local problem.

Considering the law seems to have been in effect for a while and ignored for the past 18 years and is hardly the President telling you what you you have to buy . and your apparent lack of sensitivity over water shortages as long as you got yours, I would consider this to be less "Conservative" outrage and more a typical Bagger whine.
Both ignorant in the facts, selfish to the needs of his fellow americans  and all to ready to blame one man only.


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Or cross the border into Canada and buy your toilet there.

I dont know about the rest of canada but here, most of  the loo's/shower heads etc are all energy saving ones, and have been for a while/years.
I know you can find them but water conservation is most definitely the thing to do here in ontario.






mnottertail -> RE: The conservative outrage continues (7/28/2010 2:08:12 PM)

18 years ago, why did Bush one sign this legislation?




thishereboi -> RE: The conservative outrage continues (7/28/2010 2:08:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

pick me up some good cubans if you go after the hydrozolized crapper, will ya bud?



You got it[:)]




thishereboi -> RE: The conservative outrage continues (7/28/2010 2:10:31 PM)

Well it has been years since I heard they were doing it, so I guess you have changed your laws there. I guess this means I better take really good care of my toilet from now on.




mnottertail -> RE: The conservative outrage continues (7/28/2010 2:11:28 PM)

(and my cubans, keep em dry goddammit, with your splashy toilet all hanging around em)




Lucylastic -> RE: The conservative outrage continues (7/28/2010 2:31:08 PM)

This is only for ontario Boi... http://www.ene.gov.on.ca/cons/3783-e.htm
Recycling, waterand energy conservation has all kinds of laws/bylaws here etc with tax credits, help to change over to energy saving stuff, its almost part of everyday life.




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