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RE: sex to feel better? - 4/23/2006 9:19:29 PM   
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I need to get into the migraine-curing business.

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RE: sex to feel better? - 4/24/2006 7:56:29 AM   
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In my case I ended up telling my doctor that sex helped when I had a migraine. She said the drugs I take for migraines cause the same release of chemicals in the brain that you experience during sex. This was wonderful news! I thought I was really weird the first time a migraine-back-rub ended up becoming hot sex...and the headache went away.

Now, with no partner the headaches are horrible. I don't masturbate, mostly because it just doesn't cause the same level of euphoria that I achieve with intercourse, so now I just have to depend on the meds to help me.

Speaking of not masturbating, are there other subs/slaves who aren't able to masturbate to any level of satisfaction? I've found that it's just not worth it for me.


ugh, i can, but it is just pointless. the end result, is less satisfying than Him fingering me to orgasm [which on the ladder of orgasms given by Him would be at the bottom]. So, i become very frustrated.

i have had this new event, with a crazy tingley build up sensation, like its going to release thi smonster orgasm, but they have proven to be the weakest as of yet. [might be the new birth control though dunno]

So anyways, i completely prefer sex, but i am a crazy bitch w/o orgasm so i am ordered to every day. to my dismay, its a waste of time.

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RE: sex to feel better? - 4/24/2006 10:41:45 AM   
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Hi Calico ....
Unfortunately, the only thing I've found is intense scening . . . which comes about as often as the sex
I'm glad I'm not the only one out there with this problem, people were telling me I was crazy! lol

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RE: sex to feel better? - 4/24/2006 8:13:06 PM   
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Since I mostly just have scenes with Chris, that makes things difficult too, especially lately when he seems to be playing with Lost Boy a lot...lol

Thanks enthralled...next time someone tries to lecture me, I'll come get you for support :-)

Calico

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RE: sex to feel better? - 4/25/2006 3:06:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mixielicous

i seem to have this problem, and i was wondering if anyone could relate

if i dont have sex, regularly, i get depressed. it frustrates me SO much [and masturbation doesnt help]

i get upset, needy feeling and just down right depressed if i dont get fucked .... at least every other day.

i love D very much and his presence makes me feel better, but i do not feel satisfied until i get the shit fucked outta me. He says He doesnt think its weird, but it makes me feel guilty.

does this happen to anyone else?



As a male i too feel the primal need. However it's more like weeks to a month on the outside. While i don't feel depressed, my agressiveness increases as well as becoming more irratible. After being with a woman i feel very laid back, and relaxed.

Curiously masterbation helps but only temporily. After a while it simply not effective.

I've noticed that for me if my girlfriend dips her fingers inside herself, geting them all sticky, then lets me suck her fingers clean gives me one enormous headrush also makes my heart race like a crazy. I'm a real happy camper for a couple of hours.

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RE: sex to feel better? - 4/25/2006 4:34:31 PM   
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I can mostly relate mixielicious.  I don't end up depressed, although I have noticed that if Master and I go too long without having sex, we both tend to get testy and short temptered.  We need that physical contact and the release with each other (like you, masterbation doesn't cut it) in order to both be on an even keel.

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RE: sex to feel better? - 4/27/2006 12:45:26 PM   
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Calico Nymph, masturbation doesn't work for me any more either.  Sometimes it helps with a minor headache.  Although, it is great for cramps, but thats about it.  (Which works for me because I hate taking meds)  I don't get the release from it anymore.  I think it has something to do with the fact that I enjoy sex the most when my partner is really enjoying it.  The service side of it....who knows...that will take a couple more years of study to figure out. 

Mixielicous, as long as being cranky about it doesn't prevent you doing things you need to do to be a productive member of society you have no reason to fret or worry.  That is when it crosses the line of being "normal" (oh how i HATE that word) to an obsession that you may want to consider help for.  From the sounds of it you arn't there so embrace who you are and life is good.

I forgot who posted the picture of the elephants but for some reason that picture really made me smile.  (Although I feel sad for the female, as it takes 26mths for her to be ready to give birth after that picture was taken)

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RE: sex to feel better? - 4/28/2006 5:52:54 AM   
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Hello There,
I too crave the endorphins that seem to release only when I have intercourse. I get antsy after a few days, but it took living for about two years without any stimulus other than my own before I felt I was clinically depressed.
I have empathy for you as I do indeed have the same Oh my goodness I want to screw so bad I can't think thing you have going on. Over time you just have ti learn to find a way to quiet that voice and it isn't so overwhelming most of the time. LOL or join a very active swingers group.
Good luck,
Suzanne

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RE: sex to feel better? - 5/9/2006 9:09:18 AM   
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hi there. i can relate to what you're describing. i masturbate only for release...it doesn't give me the satisfied & fulfilled feelings i get from intercourse. i love getting fucked. it's been especially challenging lately because of Master's busy schedule. i'm feeling a bit neglected and lonely. i love Him so...

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RE: sex to feel better? - 5/9/2006 9:51:04 AM   
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Obviously, intercourse is better, but masturbation works in a pinch.

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RE: sex to feel better? - 5/9/2006 9:58:11 AM   
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Obviously, intercourse is better, but masturbation works in a pinch.

For me it's like asking whether I prefer garlic or sugar.

They are completely different experiences of sexuality.  I LOVE masturbating, I LOVE intercourse.  Both, in different contexts, can be absolutely mind blowing.  There are things that some sex toys can do that no human can acheive.  There are things that humans can do that no sex toy can accomplish.

So I take the best of it all and would never choose to give up one!



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RE: sex to feel better? - 5/9/2006 10:02:20 AM   
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YES

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RE: sex to feel better? - 5/9/2006 10:23:34 AM   
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You're right, LA.  I didn't thnk of it that way.  I guess it depends on my mood.  I prefer intercourse because I prefer the intimacy, but some of the toys that are out now...wow!

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RE: sex to feel better? - 5/11/2006 3:42:48 AM   
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This is a great topic!  Something I'm definitely interested in and partially knowledgeable about.

Just about everything we do causes changes in our body and brain chemistry.  Masturbation, sex, orgasm, massage, pain, they all cause release of endorphins and/or neurotransmitters in our bodies.  These endorphins and neurotransmitters are responsible for a huge array of effects, such as:

- perception of pain
- mood
- sexual arousal
- level of consciousness
- anxiety
- emotional responses

Some generalizations can be made, and they are often true.  Getting off makes me sleepy.  Having an orgasm makes my girl's cramps go away.  Fucking makes us both happier.  And so on.  But they're not always true for everyone.

In your case, getting a good hard fucking brings your mood up.  Maybe it's the control, maybe it's the orgasm, maybe it's the deep penetration and that "used" feeling.  Maybe it's a little of everything!  My girl definitely gets mood changes from orgasm.  Sometimes she'll get depressed when she hasn't cum for a while, and masturbating (or sex, probably, if we could be together!) brings her mood up for a while.  I don't find it to be a lasting cure for depression, though.  Luckily she hasn't been depressed for several months anyway.  Sometimes, when she's been really down (hasn't happened for a couple years) she used to masturbate 4, 5, even 6 times a day.  And still be horny when I got online to play that night.

One thing for sure - please stop feeling guilty about it.  Easier said than done, right?  Read up about guilt.  Rationalize it to yourself.  Realize that guilt will never get you anywhere.  Forgive yourself for craving the sex - you aren't doing it to spite/disobey/annoy your dominant, so being guilty about it is pointless.  Talk about it with him.  And most of all, let go of the guilt, accept yourself, and make sure you get as much good, hard sex as possible.  :p

One last note.  Do you masturbate just on the surface, or do you use fingers and/or toys to get deeper stimulation?  Perhaps if you could give yourself a vaginal and/or g-spot orgasm rather than just clitoral orgasms, you'd get more satisfaction out of the masturbation to tide you over until you're with him again.

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RE: sex to feel better? - 5/11/2006 6:58:48 AM   
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It could be hormonal... just a thought.

A friend of mine has an excess of testosterone. As a result of the excess her sex drive is incredibly high. And she complains bitterly if she hasn't had sex in the past week.

She also doesn't get anywhere near as satisfied with masturbation as she does with sex. In fact, masturbation sometimes leaves her feeling worse off - and all the more "in need" of sex.

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RE: sex to feel better? - 5/11/2006 9:42:19 AM   
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quote:

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One thing for sure - please stop feeling guilty about it. Easier said than done, right? Read up about guilt. Rationalize it to yourself. Realize that guilt will never get you anywhere. Forgive yourself for craving the sex - you aren't doing it to spite/disobey/annoy your dominant, so being guilty about it is pointless. Talk about it with him. And most of all, let go of the guilt, accept yourself, and make sure you get as much good, hard sex as possible. :p

One last note. Do you masturbate just on the surface, or do you use fingers and/or toys to get deeper stimulation? Perhaps if you could give yourself a vaginal and/or g-spot orgasm rather than just clitoral orgasms, you'd get more satisfaction out of the masturbation to tide you over until you're with him again.


yes, i get in trouble a lot for being guilt ridden. He is aware of my needs. This is why He orders me to masturbate every night i do not spend with Him [i am a "bitch" otherwise]

sheesh, penetration during masturbation. i gave up on that years ago. one, i have fingernails, two, meh, it doesnt make it that much different for me.

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RE: sex to feel better? - 5/14/2006 7:01:52 PM   
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Mixie,

Have you tried a venus butterfly?  You get that glorious clitoral stimulation and insertion at the same time.  I have a variety of dildos, but I would prefer for Him to use them; it is not that pleasing to poke myself.  Most of my toys are for clitoral stimluation and the sensations that they create chan be mindblowing, but truly pale in comparison to what can be achieved with the right lover/Master. 

I live an hour away from my Beloved and with my busy and long work schedule we do not get to see each other as often as we would like.  He too orders me to achieve orgasm without him.  It can be pleasurable, but it is not the same as being manipulated or fucked by Him.  I can manage to achieve climax with my butterfly or vibrating egg, but in His hands (or by His hands)  I experience orgasms that are more intense and greater in number.  Bound to the bed, spreader between my ankles, no way to squirm away from the sensations, how could I not prefer that?  Sometimes though, a girl has got to do what a girl has got to do in order to maintain her sanity and civility.

Would I prefer he hold my arms down, throw my legs over his shoulders and pound me until I feel I may be split in two?  You betcha, but it is not always possible.  So sometimes it is nice to put on the old butterfly and think about all of the wonderfully delicious things that He will do to me when we next meet...

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RE: sex to feel better? - 5/14/2006 7:18:22 PM   
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Maybe I'm the odd one out, but I could take it or leave it (sex, orgasms, self-pleasuring, the whole bit).  I used to need sex at least daily and had to orgasm at least 8 or 9 times a day in order to even focus.  That all ended when I started working two jobs and maintaining the house .
What I used to do when I couldn't be with my man is try to have phone sex at least once a day.  I know that it's not as good, but it makes it feel more intimate.


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