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willbeurdaddy -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 1:02:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreedyTop wait...... Cops and firefighters DO get special consideration for crimes against them.. it may not be WRITTEN.. but they do. Are you suggesting that cabbies and gas station attendants are less deserving of the attention of LEO investigators than others? Cause thats what it looks like to me. Actually cops and firefighters do have written special consideration in many jurisdictions..all I said is that I agree they should. And yes, cabbies and gas station attendants are no more deserving of special consideration than any other ordinary citizen, because thats exactly what they are.

SorceressJ -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 1:31:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: GreedyTop wait...... Cops and firefighters DO get special consideration for crimes against them.. it may not be WRITTEN.. but they do. Are you suggesting that cabbies and gas station attendants are less deserving of the attention of LEO investigators than others? Cause thats what it looks like to me. Actually cops and firefighters do have written special consideration in many jurisdictions..all I said is that I agree they should. And yes, cabbies and gas station attendants are no more deserving of special consideration than any other ordinary citizen, because thats exactly what they are. Wrong answer. EVERY life is precious. -Everyone- should be entitled to the same protection and consideration under the law, and you are out of line for suggesting otherwise. This is why: My Husband manages a gas station for a national chain (not BP, thank all the gods). Three days before Xmas three years ago, some drug-addicted skinny drink of water walked in with a silver pistol, placed the barrel against the skin over My Husband's heart, and demanded the money from the cash register. I was there at the time, standing silent and aghast over near the coffee area. Calmly, My Husband opened his register, removed some cash, and speaking in low tones to the boy, placed the money in his hand. Noticing that there were other people in the store, the boy then tilted the barrel of the pistol sideways, preparing to fire. With whipshot reflexes, My Husband slapped the gun out of the boy's hand without it going off, shoved him backwards so hard that he stumbled and almost fell with an expression of utter shock on his face, and said, "Now I'm going to kick your ass, you little sonofabitch." The boy ran out clutching the money, fell down in the parking lot, was chased down the street by My Husband, dropped most of the money, shot at My Husband six times, and was finally apprehended by law enforcement who had already been called in the meantime and were on their way to help. My Husband saved two other lives beside His own that night (mine and a customer who was also in the store), and maybe unknown others who would have been endangered by this perp on future occasions (this was apparently -not- his first offense). Not one more word out of your mouth about what an "ordinary citizen" My Husband is, or the other fine people who are in a class with Him. Not one.

thishereboi -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 1:54:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam I mean, heck, we ALL know that there are no right wing domestic terrorists, I must have missed that post. Where did anyone say that?

thishereboi -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 1:58:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: flcouple2009 We can all confirm that the money your mother gave you for the tap dancing lessons you actually used for the lessons. The question was would I get a different answer for a Christian minister about a witch would I get a different opinion? You could go to 10 different christian ministers and get 10 different answers. Is there a point to this?

StrangerThan -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 2:24:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SorceressJ Wrong answer. EVERY life is precious. -Everyone- should be entitled to the same protection and consideration under the law, and you are out of line for suggesting otherwise. Well, I'll certainly agree with that one. Maybe after a few thousand years and we've defined every subset of the population, we will get to the point where everyone has the same protection. Right now, it's kinda like... picking mothers out of a crowd and telling some your child's life is less than that one.

flcouple2009 -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 2:24:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: flcouple2009 We can all confirm that the money your mother gave you for the tap dancing lessons you actually used for the lessons. The question was would I get a different answer for a Christian minister about a witch would I get a different opinion? You could go to 10 different christian ministers and get 10 different answers. Is there a point to this? You would have to ask Sanity since there was no point in his original comments and Islam and witches.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 2:55:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SorceressJ quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: GreedyTop wait...... Cops and firefighters DO get special consideration for crimes against them.. it may not be WRITTEN.. but they do. Are you suggesting that cabbies and gas station attendants are less deserving of the attention of LEO investigators than others? Cause thats what it looks like to me. Actually cops and firefighters do have written special consideration in many jurisdictions..all I said is that I agree they should. And yes, cabbies and gas station attendants are no more deserving of special consideration than any other ordinary citizen, because thats exactly what they are. Wrong answer. EVERY life is precious. -Everyone- should be entitled to the same protection and consideration under the law, and you are out of line for suggesting otherwise. This is why: My Husband manages a gas station for a national chain (not BP, thank all the gods). Three days before Xmas three years ago, some drug-addicted skinny drink of water walked in with a silver pistol, placed the barrel against the skin over My Husband's heart, and demanded the money from the cash register. I was there at the time, standing silent and aghast over near the coffee area. Calmly, My Husband opened his register, removed some cash, and speaking in low tones to the boy, placed the money in his hand. Noticing that there were other people in the store, the boy then tilted the barrel of the pistol sideways, preparing to fire. With whipshot reflexes, My Husband slapped the gun out of the boy's hand without it going off, shoved him backwards so hard that he stumbled and almost fell with an expression of utter shock on his face, and said, "Now I'm going to kick your ass, you little sonofabitch." The boy ran out clutching the money, fell down in the parking lot, was chased down the street by My Husband, dropped most of the money, shot at My Husband six times, and was finally apprehended by law enforcement who had already been called in the meantime and were on their way to help. My Husband saved two other lives beside His own that night (mine and a customer who was also in the store), and maybe unknown others who would have been endangered by this perp on future occasions (this was apparently -not- his first offense). Not one more word out of your mouth about what an "ordinary citizen" My Husband is, or the other fine people who are in a class with Him. Not one. If you think Im out of line for believing that the many laws that provide stiffer penalties for crimes against police and firefighters are justified YOU are the one that is out of line with the mainstream beliefs of the country.

Sanity -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 3:18:29 PM)
It was StrangerThan who originally made the little stabbing comment about Islam and Witches, which I dont believe you understand the humor in what he wrote yet. quote: ORIGINAL: flcouple2009 You would have to ask Sanity since there was no point in his original comments and Islam and witches.

truckinslave -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 3:50:40 PM)
quote: f course, I guess the anti-Semitic hysteria of this country needed to be replaced, or has it just been amended. Say what???? anti-Semitic hysteria??? oh my. What faith do you think is more likely to encourage violence?

truckinslave -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 4:05:44 PM)
Reactions to this are hilarious. We're told Islam didn't attack the Twin Towers in spite of the fact that there are Islamic nations that teach terrorism, Islamic nations that support terrorism, mosques that teach terrorism, mosques that support terrorism, and widespread worlwide Islamic support for... terrorism. Yet the attack on the Towers was divorced from Islam. One Islamic cab driver, having been asked if he was Muslim so that his passenger could exchange pleasantries with him in his native tongue, then gets wounded by said passenger, a lone alcoholic with a history of violence, a man who as far as we know just inexplicably turned mean in the familiar manner of drunks everywhere, and it is not an individual act but something to be blamed on Christianity, on talk radio, on Islamaphobia, on those speaking out against the WTC Victory Mosque, on America itself despite the total lack of any support from any group anywhere. At all. Absofuckinglutely hilarious.

jlf1961 -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 4:08:12 PM)
willbeurdaddy, I am curious, who's life is worth more than another life?

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 4:18:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 willbeurdaddy, I am curious, who's life is worth more than another life? Oh lets see...lets see if I can put it in terms you can understand. How about Obama's life vs. Ted Bundy's?

JstAnotherSub -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 4:20:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy That all lives are equal is preposterous on its face, unless you want to reduce all lives to their lowest common denominator, which is that all lives are a bunch of carbon and water worth roughly a buck fifty two including CA redemption value for the container. Are you serious? Murder doesn't only take the life of the victim. That lowest common denominator you speak of has a mom or dad or wife or husband or child or best friend or cousin or all of the above, that lowest common denominator laying bleeding in the ditch, is loved by someone, somewhere. And if they're not loved or missed by anyone, that is even more tragic. sighs..........

jlf1961 -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 4:20:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 willbeurdaddy, I am curious, who's life is worth more than another life? Oh lets see...we'll put it in terms you can understand. How about Obama's life vs. Ted Bundy's? I can give you that. However, given your statements in this thread and others, I get the impression that there are certain groups who's lives are worth less than say, a White Anglo Saxon American.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 4:22:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 willbeurdaddy, I am curious, who's life is worth more than another life? Oh lets see...we'll put it in terms you can understand. How about Obama's life vs. Ted Bundy's? I can give you that. However, given your statements in this thread and others, I get the impression that there are certain groups who's lives are worth less than say, a White Anglo Saxon American. Your impression is off base. And jst apparently disagrees with us about Barry vs Ted.

thornhappy -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 4:53:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Marini When black people were being lynched with horrifying frequency in the South, years ago, most of the nasty pieces of shit trash/kkk members that did the lynching were Democrats, most blacks are Democrats. I am going to start a thread one day, on KKK founders/leaders/organizers/ members that are Democrats. Were they Democrats? Yup. But (as it's been posted in this forum ad infinitum) that when Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act, they went (with a few exceptions) over to the Republican party by around 1968. Remember the "Southern Strategy"? That wasn't the Democrats.

MistressLavinia -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 5:17:14 PM)
You can't compare a sick bastards life with Obamas, Your comparing apples to oranges. Ted Bundy was a sick bastard who murdered people. That's no comparison. The poor cab driver was a victim, who did nothing wrong to anyone, His life is just as important as OBAMAS OR ANYONES. Just because he's not a President doesn't make his life any more or less then Obamas life. No Cop or Firefighters life is more important then that cab drivers. They chose their profession - it's a profession that yes should be respected, but it doesn't make them more valuable then anyone. That cab driver may save your life or your child's life one day. Now compare Ted Bundy to another serial killer and that's a comparison. We're talking about an innocent cab driver not Ted Bundy. You used Ted Bundy as example to Obama, that's a problem right there.

jlf1961 -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 5:20:22 PM)
Thorny, do not confuse the neocons with facts. The FACT that the KKK is considered a right wing CONSERVATIVE hate group and listed as a domestic terrorist organization by the FBI, as well as the Aryan Brotherhood, Neo Nazis, the American Nazi Party just to name a few other conservative groups they do not want to be reminded about.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 5:26:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MistressLavinia You can't compare a sick bastards life with Obamas, Your comparing apples to oranges. I was responding to the preposterous notion that all lives are equal, posited most strongly by sorceresswhatever. They are not apples and oranges, they are two lives, period. That you think they are apples and oranges merely supports my position that all lives are not equal. I said nothing about this particular situation, although the attempts by the lefties here to inflate the act of a single person (with liberal leanings no left) into anything more important that that is typical.

MistressLavinia -> RE: Cabbie Stabbed After Fare Asked, 'Are You Muslim? (8/26/2010 5:33:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: MistressLavinia You can't compare a sick bastards life with Obamas, Your comparing apples to oranges. I was responding to the preposterous notion that all lives are equal, posited most strongly by sorceresswhatever. They are not apples and oranges, they are two lives, period. That you think they are apples and oranges merely supports my position that all lives are not equal. I said nothing about this particular situation, although the attempts by the lefties here to inflate the act of a single person (with liberal leanings no left) into anything more important that that is typical. What I am saying is my opinion. Apples and Oranges, yes, just like Ted Bundy being compared to Obama. Two different things. Cops, Firefighters, Cabdrivers, Me and many others here are people, we don't go around raping and killing women in their sleep, we deserve protection and rights. The cab driver isn't Ted Bundy, Ted Bundy to me gave up his rights when he took a life. Obama cannot be compared to Ted Bundy, again I say it Apples and Oranges. The cab drivers life is just as important as Obamas, the cops, the firefighters, mine and yours. I know I don't going around raping or killing, and If you don't, Obama doesn't, the cop doesnt, the firefighter doesnt, and the cab driver doesn't, then we all deserve the same amount of protection and respect. To give someone less respect or more because of a position is ridiculous, and I think once you rape and take a life of someone your no longer in the same class of respect.

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