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RE: Monogamy Agonistes - 8/28/2010 7:24:56 PM   
SorceressJ


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As for femdom relationships, I cannot comment and find very few women who truly obtain transcendent pleasure from being dominant






"As for femdom relationships, I cannot comment." Full stop right there and the sentence will be slightly more accurate than before. Nor should you have, since you seem to know so little about us, therefore you should not presume to hazard a guess like that.
Transcendent pleasure is not gender-specific, it is a thing of the spirit.

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RE: Monogamy Agonistes - 8/28/2010 7:27:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		I never said transcendent pleasure was gender specific, but only that I find very few women truly satisfied by dominating men. And of course there are exceptions.....nothing I have said is absolute. They are thoughtful musings on an important subject.

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RE: Monogamy Agonistes - 8/28/2010 7:30:32 PM   
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RE: Monogamy Agonistes - 8/28/2010 7:32:23 PM   
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Well, I could easily call what you prefer "fantasy submission." Everyone has needs and conditions, even the supposed no-limits subs - they've just found Doms who fit what they're looking for to "submit unconditionally" to. You'll never find true unconditional surrender in this world, because we all have brains and survival instincts and we don't just do whatever the first guy to cross our path tells us to. So really, as long as we all have legal rights and cognizant thought, it's all conditional submission.


If it is indeed conditional is it really submission?


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RE: Monogamy Agonistes - 8/28/2010 7:33:53 PM   
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I never said transcendent pleasure was gender specific, but only that I find very few women truly satisfied by dominating men. And of course there are exceptions.....nothing I have said is absolute. They are thoughtful musings on an important subject.


May I suggest, then, that you take the time to talk openly to people, without preconceived notions, to make Dominant friends of all genders and to gather their thoughts on the subject.. because I can tell you unequivocably, though I do not speak for everyone any more than you do: We can and do have such pleasure, at least as much as any Male. If We didn't, it would rarely be worth the trouble..
P.S. What LP said.

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RE: Monogamy Agonistes - 8/28/2010 7:34:11 PM   
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And thats why i Love the fact that I live in a country where slavery is illegal and anything against my will can come with Charges from the law.

Conditional or not, we all have limits, we choose partners based on those limits, whining doesn't change the fact we all have a breaking point.



So if I don't agree with you I'm whining?

Very nice.



No the op is whining, You didnt create a thread thats based on bullshit to suit the fact that people in your inbox are rejecting you to my knowledge.

And the truth stands saying your a Dom and i must do as you say doesnt change the fact I have a choice in this matter regardless of your belief.

I submit to a man whos views match my own, a limit i have for mental and emotional health is monogamy, your not monogamous very simple YOUR not my dom. I dont go after poly men and say own me then be monogamous...

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RE: Monogamy Agonistes - 8/28/2010 7:34:38 PM   
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If it is indeed conditional is it really submission?


Absolutely.  It may surprise you to learn that the d-type is responsible for providing the environment in which the s-type wants to submit.  Not all submissives are auto knee benders.   


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RE: Monogamy Agonistes - 8/28/2010 7:35:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		LadyPact could be right. I am no expert on dominant women although I think the fact that society in general has no respect for submissive men does effect, IN GENERAL (no one understand this), the feeling women get from being with a submissive man IN GENERAL.

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RE: Monogamy Agonistes - 8/28/2010 7:41:02 PM   
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LadyPact could be right. I am no expert on dominant women although I think the fact that society in general has no respect for submissive men does effect, IN GENERAL (no one understand this), the feeling women get from being with a submissive man IN GENERAL.



I'm curious, what are you basing this statement on?

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RE: Monogamy Agonistes - 8/28/2010 7:42:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Spirit Radiance (pretty name) is very forceful in her argument, and I no doubt as to her sincerity although she questions me for some reason, but that's okay. Of course, you Master will tell you he agrees with monogamy (men will happily lie to get in your pants or slip a collar around our neck), but it is very unlikely he will practice it.
I prefer honestly to conventional promises, but I am getting the impression from this discussion that honestly is nearly as important as sweet lies.

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RE: Monogamy Agonistes - 8/28/2010 7:43:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		LadyPact, your profile kind of proves my point. You are married to a dominant and seeking female slaves.

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RE: Monogamy Agonistes - 8/28/2010 7:43:53 PM   
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you Master will tell you he agrees with monogamy (men will happily lie to get in your pants or slip a collar around our neck), but it is very unlikely he will practice it.


Wow.  Some men are monogamous.  Why are you at such odds with entire concept of masters being monogamous?


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RE: Monogamy Agonistes - 8/28/2010 7:45:03 PM   
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RE: Monogamy Agonistes - 8/28/2010 7:46:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		And Your belief is your belief, Ive only had ONE partner cheat on me, ONE out of several, I dont agree that all men will cheat

My father was married to my mother for 50 years he never once strayed, my uncles been married for nearly 30 years HES never once thought of cheating on his wife.

Your conclusion is all men must want multiple women No all men DONT, and thats my issue with it.

If my partner wants me and wants to maintain a relationship with me, he has to care more about me then he does his penis.

If you wish better luck in your search and finding your second, try reading the profiles of the people you message, If they mention they seek monogamy no matter how alluring their profile is or their photo, Move on,

The truth of the matter is YOUR not likely to change someone who is monogamous into being poly, can it happen rarely yes but it usually does, Just like I dont go out of my way to try to change a poly man into a monogamous one.

Please stop saying that the only reason someone would commit to monogamy is because they want laid not all men have your moral code.

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RE: Monogamy Agonistes - 8/28/2010 7:46:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Bones from Ash - Which part about submissive men not be valued by society or about it possibly affecting people.

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RE: Monogamy Agonistes - 8/28/2010 7:47:22 PM   
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RE: Monogamy Agonistes - 8/28/2010 7:47:56 PM   
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LadyPact, your profile kind of proves my point. You are married to a dominant and seeking female slaves.




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RE: Monogamy Agonistes - 8/28/2010 7:48:42 PM   
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LadyPact, your profile kind of proves my point. You are married to a dominant and seeking female slaves.

You are actually incorrect.  My husband is a top, though that option isn't available here.  There is no one who is seeking female slaves.  Again, this is due to lack of options because 'female bottom' isn't an option. 

Are you telling Me that you are also unfamiliar with the concept of D/D couples?  By the way, it's actually Me who is the poly person between us.

A read of My profile should have also informed you that I happen to have a male in My collar.  Someone that, even though he's a four time war vet, you claim society has no respect for him.


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RE: Monogamy Agonistes - 8/28/2010 7:49:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Spirited, you really think you know everything your father did and uncle thought? I don't know how to respond. Especially as you experience kind of proves my point. I am sure it was horrible to be cheated on.

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RE: Monogamy Agonistes - 8/28/2010 7:51:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ive had 3 fairly long term relationships for my age and one cheated, out of the three men I dated for more then a year, all other partners I had were monogamous for the lenght of time we dated and were together.

Being cheated on once, does is not the reason why im monogamous, or so steadfast in my monogamy. In my head poly would create for me a LOT of mental grief.

As ill say one last time.... SEEK THOSE WHO SEEK WHAT YOU WANT NOT WHAT YOU DONT... and you wont have problems.


ETA my uncle and I have a great relationship, Does he LOOK at other women in a sexual manner yes, does he cheat on his wife want to have sex with other women? NO Im fairly sure i know because he asks me all the time how he can get his wife to sleep with him.

To suggest a man who was married for 50 years to his wife lovingly cheated on her, Im sorry cant by it, I knew my father and he never even danced with another woman with out asking my mom first.




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