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stacyandjohn -> i am submissive or slave ! Help masters (4/22/2006 9:04:25 AM)

hello masters  how would i know if i am submissive or slave ... please explain with details .




MrDiscipline44 -> RE: i am submissive or slave ! Help masters (4/22/2006 9:23:13 AM)

IMNSHO s&j, a slave seeks to give over total authority to the Dom, making the Dom the Master/Mistress. A submissive only seeks to give over authority in certain situations and/or places. A slave is more giving of themselves to the Dominant while a submissive is giving as long as they're receiving. Now thats not to say that being a slave is a selfless act. In fact, it could be argued that it is more selfish then submission, but a slave seeks to put the Masters demands ahead of their own.




slavejali -> RE: i am submissive or slave ! Help masters (4/22/2006 1:23:02 PM)

To me a slave submits, which makes them a submissive too hey *grin* I think we worry over terms too much.




refplace -> RE: i am submissive or slave ! Help masters (4/22/2006 7:16:21 PM)

Dont worry about the labels.
Call yourself a sub since its more common and generally better percieved for a newbie.
But over time you will surpass the sterotypes of labels and then it wont matter so much.




Focus50 -> RE: i am submissive or slave ! Help masters (4/23/2006 2:44:04 AM)

I define the difference as being committment.  A slave has an owner/master but that same slave is a submissive if she's alone.
 
Think of submissive as being a woman and slave as being a wife.  All wives are women but not all women are wives = all slaves are submissives but not all submissives are slaves.
 
Focus.




puella -> RE: i am submissive or slave ! Help masters (4/23/2006 8:59:35 AM)

I know you asked this question of the Masters only... but you can choose not to read my response.  Huge warning bells go off for me when a woman asks others to tell her who she is, to validate her being... and so I would pose some questions to you... Why is a title so important to you?  If you were never called anything but woman, would you serve the same way?  If no one claimed you, would you still be a submissive woman, would you still identify yourself as one who serves?  What does a title do for you?  Does it give you a sense of legitimacy?  A sense of hierarchy?  Are you on some level looking for a 'gold star' to announce yourself with... IE.. Hello one and all, I am Jen and not just a submissive but a SLAVE?

My other question is.. If you can not answer this question you asked (which seems very important to you) all on your own, how and WHY on earth would you want another, who doesn't know you at all, to answer it for you?




BitaTruble -> RE: i am submissive or slave ! Help masters (4/23/2006 9:22:13 AM)

I would say since you've posted in another thread that you're seeking a female slave that you are a switch.

Celeste




LadyMorgynn -> RE: i am submissive or slave ! Help masters (4/23/2006 9:42:53 AM)

Bita, you missed the most recent one where it is saying it wants a female slave and asking how to find one!

quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

I would say since you've posted in another thread that you're seeking a female slave that you are a switch.

Celeste




BitaTruble -> RE: i am submissive or slave ! Help masters (4/23/2006 9:45:51 AM)

I'm starting to feel a bit Twilight Zoney here. lol




gooddogbenji -> RE: i am submissive or slave ! Help masters (4/23/2006 9:49:21 AM)

Here are the threads this person has STARTED so far:

Introduction
What do you expect from your slave/submissive girl
What is the most brutal punishment
Enema
Stuff that is helpful in BDSM
What is Polyamorous Lifestyle
What is Gorean Lifestyle
Do you love your Master/Mistress
i am submissive or slave ! Help masters
Is there a ranking system for subs/slaves
What do you fear most?
How to find slave?
How will I know if I am switch

Not bad, eh?  And who says there are fakes on here??????

Yours,


benji




feastie -> RE: i am submissive or slave ! Help masters (4/23/2006 9:58:24 AM)

*Hands the scissors to the next person, wanting to cut the strings*




Focus50 -> RE: i am submissive or slave ! Help masters (4/23/2006 3:49:25 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji

Here are the threads this person has STARTED so far:

Introduction
What do you expect from your slave/submissive girl
What is the most brutal punishment
Enema
Stuff that is helpful in BDSM
What is Polyamorous Lifestyle
What is Gorean Lifestyle
Do you love your Master/Mistress
i am submissive or slave ! Help masters
Is there a ranking system for subs/slaves
What do you fear most?
How to find slave?
How will I know if I am switch

Not bad, eh?  And who says there are fakes on here??????

Yours,


benji

Before the conspiracy theories turn into a runaway freight, you might wanna also consider the nic of "this person" - stacyandjohn

The profile doesn't come up but it's not unusual for couples to work off one profile....  Could it not be "this person" is a couple, possibly new to the lifestyle and are asking their questions from all perspectives?

 
Focus.




gooddogbenji -> RE: i am submissive or slave ! Help masters (4/23/2006 4:01:15 PM)

Possible, yes.

Likely, I'll leave that up to others.

What I do know is that there is no profile, for a while there was a sigline link which took you to a page of iPod giveaways and such, no one specifies, ever, not even in the intro, that there are 2 people, or is ever reference made to the other person.

For example, John and I are exploring the idea he may also have a switch side, or something to that effect.

Also, many of the questions (judge for yourself) seem to be looking for answers like:

"Well, Master spanks me and then slowly..........."

Just my opinion, and you have the right to yours.

Yours,


benji




Arpig -> RE: i am submissive or slave ! Help masters (4/23/2006 4:58:45 PM)

I haven't a clue...I don't know you from Adam (or Eve, in case you are female), so how the hell would I be able to even hazard a guess...maybe you are a dominantswitchslavetopsubmissive bottom?




Wulfchyld -> RE: i am submissive or slave ! Help masters (4/23/2006 5:05:05 PM)

quote:

Here are the threads this person has STARTED so far:

Introduction
What do you expect from your slave/submissive girl
What is the most brutal punishment
Enema
Stuff that is helpful in BDSM
What is Polyamorous Lifestyle
What is Gorean Lifestyle
Do you love your Master/Mistress
i am submissive or slave ! Help masters
Is there a ranking system for subs/slaves
What do you fear most?
How to find slave?
How will I know if I am switch

Not bad, eh?  And who says there are fakes on here??????

Yours,


benji



I nominate benji for the most thorough sub of the year award.

*pats benis’s head*

Good job

Loki




HouseofAvalon -> RE: i am submissive or slave ! Help masters (4/23/2006 5:16:49 PM)

It's simply this. Submission is temporary, borrowed, typified by several or many night stands or sessions, and then they part and forget about each other for awhile. Slavery is not temporary,  slavery is being owned even when your not together, it is long term.




theRose4U -> RE: i am submissive or slave ! Help masters (4/23/2006 9:07:50 PM)

I would say that until you educate yourself on the lifestyle and have enough experiences to decide that submission isn't for you then you're a sub...that is until you hear a loud metal clink sound of a collar being secured to your neck. If at that time you're willing to give all that you are and any decisions that you need to make over to your dominant then you might be a slave.

Personal GRRR [:@] lately is newbie boys sending emails that they are sitting at my feet and can't wait to be mine signed slave Bob or scott or whatever. You talk to them for a little while and it comes out that they are kink virgins and read "somewhere" [cough porn] that a slave was more desirable.




Vancouver_cinful -> RE: i am submissive or slave ! Help masters (4/23/2006 9:50:43 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: HouseofAvalon

It's simply this. Submission is temporary, borrowed, typified by several or many night stands or sessions, and then they part and forget about each other for awhile. Slavery is not temporary,  slavery is being owned even when your not together, it is long term.


Wow!! You couldn't be more off-base if you tried. [&:]

Cin




Amithe1 -> RE: i am submissive or slave ! Help masters (4/23/2006 10:02:01 PM)

Wow, well after reading all the replies all i can say is wow!

I have to agree that it is utterly ridiculous to expect someone else to define who and what you are. My advice, search within yourself, there is an answer, the only true one you will find.
ami




Zensee -> RE: i am submissive or slave ! Help masters (4/23/2006 11:21:37 PM)

Haven't we already exceeded the limit for "what's the difference between a sub and a slave" threads for this week?

stacyandjohn - please avail yourselves of the SEARCH FUNCTION. There are reams of opinions at your fingertips already.

Searching for the rolly-eyes emoticon,
Z.




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