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Never ending question... - 9/4/2010 8:47:33 PM

bondagenheelsman

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Why are switches basically considered a minority? Apparently, we're not allowed to enjoy both worlds according to Dom/mes and subs/slaves. I guess during my lifetime the United States changed from being "the land of the free" and I missed out on that change. And they say that this lifestyle is a "non-judgemental" society huh? That's the biggest bunch of BS I ever heard associated with a certain group of people. I guess switches aren't allowed to think for themselves. Dom/mes and subs/slaves apparently do that better for us lol. God knows I'll be happy when I find that right switch person for me.

RE: Never ending question... - 9/4/2010 9:07:14 PM

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Why are switches basically considered a minority?

We are? I want to see a fancy chart to prove this theory!

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RE: Never ending question... - 9/4/2010 9:12:02 PM

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Huh? Who's stopping you from being a switch?

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RE: Never ending question... - 9/4/2010 9:21:14 PM

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"Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves" ~Carl Jung~

OP, you seem more than a bit irritated...maybe you need to focus less on the judgement of others and more on how you judge yourself.

Oh, and who said folks that are involved with wiitwd are non-judgemental?

That being said...welcome to the boards.

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RE: Never ending question... - 9/4/2010 9:33:17 PM

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No one is stopping me from doing anything. I think OP is a tad aggravated.

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Huh? Who's stopping you from being a switch?

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RE: Never ending question... - 9/4/2010 9:43:11 PM

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I had meant to respond to OP in my post, not you!.

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No one is stopping me from doing anything. I think OP is a tad aggravated.

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Huh? Who's stopping you from being a switch?

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RE: Never ending question... - 9/4/2010 9:47:28 PM

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How was I suppose to know!

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RE: Never ending question... - 9/4/2010 10:32:53 PM

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ORIGINAL: bondagenheelsman

Why are switches basically considered a minority? Apparently, we're not allowed to enjoy both worlds according to Dom/mes and subs/slaves. I guess during my lifetime the United States changed from being "the land of the free" and I missed out on that change. And they say that this lifestyle is a "non-judgemental" society huh? That's the biggest bunch of BS I ever heard associated with a certain group of people. I guess switches aren't allowed to think for themselves. Dom/mes and subs/slaves apparently do that better for us lol. God knows I'll be happy when I find that right switch person for me.

Oh poor you. If you expect to find anyone willing to put up with you, you might want to lose the victim mentality. Whether or not switches are a minority is debatable, but no one here has the power to keep you from enjoying "both worlds" but yourself. Throwing your little pity party won't change that.

By the way, are you a submissive as your 'bondagenheelsman' profile claims or are you a switch as this one claims? You seem confused.

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RE: Never ending question... - 9/4/2010 10:57:54 PM

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What?? I'm a switch. My profile here states that. Having a problem reading that?

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ORIGINAL: bondagenheelsman

Why are switches basically considered a minority? Apparently, we're not allowed to enjoy both worlds according to Dom/mes and subs/slaves. I guess during my lifetime the United States changed from being "the land of the free" and I missed out on that change. And they say that this lifestyle is a "non-judgemental" society huh? That's the biggest bunch of BS I ever heard associated with a certain group of people. I guess switches aren't allowed to think for themselves. Dom/mes and subs/slaves apparently do that better for us lol. God knows I'll be happy when I find that right switch person for me.

Oh poor you. If you expect to find anyone willing to put up with you, you might want to lose the victim mentality. Whether or not switches are a minority is debatable, but no one here has the power to keep you from enjoying "both worlds" but yourself. Throwing your little pity party won't change that.

By the way, are you a submissive as your 'bondagenheelsman' profile claims or are you a switch as this one claims? You seem confused.

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RE: Never ending question... - 9/4/2010 11:06:44 PM

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Nobody is keeping me from enjoying both worlds. I'm venting in regards to how many on here look down on switches. I'm not confused. I enjoy them both. You however being a submissive only think one way, so I can understand you being confused. It's not a pity party...I'm stating facts. If you were a switch, maybe you'd be open enough to understand that. But I'm sure that's something to difficult for you to be able to figure out.

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ORIGINAL: bondagenheelsman

Why are switches basically considered a minority? Apparently, we're not allowed to enjoy both worlds according to Dom/mes and subs/slaves. I guess during my lifetime the United States changed from being "the land of the free" and I missed out on that change. And they say that this lifestyle is a "non-judgemental" society huh? That's the biggest bunch of BS I ever heard associated with a certain group of people. I guess switches aren't allowed to think for themselves. Dom/mes and subs/slaves apparently do that better for us lol. God knows I'll be happy when I find that right switch person for me.

Oh poor you. If you expect to find anyone willing to put up with you, you might want to lose the victim mentality. Whether or not switches are a minority is debatable, but no one here has the power to keep you from enjoying "both worlds" but yourself. Throwing your little pity party won't change that.

By the way, are you a submissive as your 'bondagenheelsman' profile claims or are you a switch as this one claims? You seem confused.

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RE: Never ending question... - 9/4/2010 11:12:07 PM

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You are not stating facts. What you are saying here is purely your opinion.

I'm a switch and I'm here shaking my head at you.
Someone should give you a lollipop.
Lollipops are sweet and make all the clouds of confusion and bitterness go away.
More sucking less typing!

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ORIGINAL: bondagenheelsman

Nobody is keeping me from enjoying both worlds. I'm venting in regards to how many on here look down on switches. I'm not confused. I enjoy them both. You however being a submissive only think one way, so I can understand you being confused. It's not a pity party...I'm stating facts. If you were a switch, maybe you'd be open enough to understand that. But I'm sure that's something to difficult for you to be able to figure out.

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ORIGINAL: stef

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ORIGINAL: bondagenheelsman

Why are switches basically considered a minority? Apparently, we're not allowed to enjoy both worlds according to Dom/mes and subs/slaves. I guess during my lifetime the United States changed from being "the land of the free" and I missed out on that change. And they say that this lifestyle is a "non-judgemental" society huh? That's the biggest bunch of BS I ever heard associated with a certain group of people. I guess switches aren't allowed to think for themselves. Dom/mes and subs/slaves apparently do that better for us lol. God knows I'll be happy when I find that right switch person for me.

Oh poor you. If you expect to find anyone willing to put up with you, you might want to lose the victim mentality. Whether or not switches are a minority is debatable, but no one here has the power to keep you from enjoying "both worlds" but yourself. Throwing your little pity party won't change that.

By the way, are you a submissive as your 'bondagenheelsman' profile claims or are you a switch as this one claims? You seem confused.

~stef

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RE: Never ending question... - 9/4/2010 11:17:53 PM

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What?? I'm a switch. My profile here states that. Having a problem reading that?

I think she meant to name your alter ego, ropenhighheels, as you state submissive on that profile (having the same av is sort of a giveaway).

IMO, It's cool to have multiple profiles on the other side, but it makes things confusing when you use more than one name on the forums. Best to pick one and stick with it.
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RE: Never ending question... - 9/5/2010 12:02:44 AM

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ORIGINAL: bondagenheelsman

What?? I'm a switch. My profile here states that. Having a problem reading that?

You have at least two profiles on CM. One says you're submissive (ropenhighheels) and this one says you are a switch? Are you confused? Which is it?

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Nobody is keeping me from enjoying both worlds.

Then why did you say "Apparently, we're not allowed to enjoy both worlds according to Dom/mes and subs/slaves."? Who here is not allowing you to enjoy "both worlds"? The only thing keeping you from what you're looking for appears to be your toxic attitude and propensity to whine about nothing. In case you were unaware, neither are attractive.

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You however being a submissive only think one way, so I can understand you being confused. It's not a pity party...I'm stating facts.

First, you have no idea how I think because I haven't said anything about switches. Second, you didn't post any facts, just a whiny rant.

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RE: Never ending question... - 9/5/2010 12:58:27 AM

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Why are switches basically considered a minority? Apparently, we're not allowed to enjoy both worlds according to Dom/mes and subs/slaves. I guess during my lifetime the United States changed from being "the land of the free" and I missed out on that change. And they say that this lifestyle is a "non-judgemental" society huh? That's the biggest bunch of BS I ever heard associated with a certain group of people. I guess switches aren't allowed to think for themselves. Dom/mes and subs/slaves apparently do that better for us lol. God knows I'll be happy when I find that right switch person for me.

1) Switches are a minority because, statistically, there are less switches than dominants or submissives. Numbers are objective.
2) I can certainly enjoy both sides of the kneel. Anyone who says otherwise isn't worth playing with. Their loss.
3) If kink is specifically stated as an inalienable right, I really need to reread the documents this country was founded on...
4) Who told you this lifestyle is non-judgemental? We're still human. The most you can hope for is surrounding yourself with people who are capable of recognizing and admitting to their biases.
5) If this is the biggest amount of bullshit you've encountered so far...you don't get out much, do you?
6) Ignore all of this. It's not like I think for myself...

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RE: Never ending question... - 9/5/2010 1:42:05 AM

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Nobody is keeping me from enjoying both worlds.

That's as it should be.

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I'm venting in regards to how many on here look down on switches.

Could you be confusing people who don't want to have a relationship with a switch with people who 'look down upon' switches?

I'm straight, and I wouldn't want to date a gay man or a lesbian. I don't look down on them, they're just not for me.

Similarly I don't want to date a switch or a submissive man. I don't look down on them, they just don't fit my needs.
I'm sensing a victim mentality here that is not going to help you find what you're looking for.

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I'm not confused. I enjoy them both.

good for you!

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You however being a submissive only think one way, so I can understand you being confused.

Trust me, I'm not confused. I've been doing this a loooong time and I know EXACTLY what I'm doing. Being submissive does not make me stupid, just as being a switch does not make you confused.

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It's not a pity party...I'm stating facts.

well, it sounds like it is. And you're not stating facts, you're stating your subjective opinion.

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If you were a switch, maybe you'd be open enough to understand that. But I'm sure that's something to difficult for you to be able to figure out.

Yeah, cos subs are stupid and close-minded? Pot and kettle here, methinks.

Being a switch does not make you more open-minded - you've just proved that with your antagonism towards those of us who are only subs or Doms.

Take a step back, stop projecting all your frustrations on people who have not harmed you in any way, and get a grip!

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RE: Never ending question... - 9/5/2010 11:06:28 AM

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Nobody is keeping me from enjoying both worlds. I'm venting in regards to how many on here look down on switches.......

This is utter bullshit. I identify as a switch and have yet to be bashed over that fact. I am more likely to be bashed over a post I make than how I identify myself as.

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RE: Never ending question... - 9/5/2010 8:34:59 PM

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/Bashes Bear for above post/

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RE: Never ending question... - 9/5/2010 9:22:04 PM

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You must be living in some sort of kink vortex. Most of the people I know who do this stuff have switched a time or two.

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RE: Never ending question... - 9/6/2010 9:54:46 AM

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Shut up and get your freak on. Relax or you will run askew.

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RE: Never ending question... - 9/10/2010 12:10:35 AM

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I'm a Switch and I also happen to be Bi-sexual...it just means I'm never out of options on a Saturday night.

My (first and only) ex-Master thought it was cool having a Switch slave.
No, he never let me dominate him but it turned him on something fierce to have a pet that was very willing and able to hurt, control and dominate others and yet be submissive to him.

It'll work with the other person so long as they know that the other side of you needs an "out" and a means of expressing it's self.
If they can't personally provide that out themselves then they should allow their Switch to express at play parties or other such venues.

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