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RE: Just suppose ? - 9/13/2010 6:04:29 AM   
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Now if I could bring the discussion back to this link, see under the sub heading Barrels and Bombs note who is funding the terrorist groups, none other than the wealthy people who were made rich by oil exports.

Such as the Saudi millionaire Osama bin Laden, you mean?

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RE: Just suppose ? - 9/13/2010 6:20:29 AM   
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Except for the fact little if anything was being derived from that region before, the Arabs were not important to the world, whereas they are now.


And yet you admitted that there were wars before the oil was found. It stands to reason, if there were wars before it was found, there would still be wars even if it hadn't been found. People would just find something else to fight over.




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RE: Just suppose ? - 9/13/2010 8:03:25 AM   
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I think there has to be a distinction made between the US and Europe on this. If there was no oil would the US still be at war with Arab states? No. Would Europe still have issues, Yes!

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RE: Just suppose ? - 9/13/2010 11:59:01 AM   
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I think there has to be a distinction made between the US and Europe on this. If there was no oil would the US still be at war with Arab states? No. Would Europe still have issues, Yes!

Although it has to be admitted that America's unconditional support of Israel whatever the hell it does probably doesn't do anything to endear you to the Arabs. I mean hell, a lot of them lost a load of slave labour over that during the late '40s and early '50s, didn't they?

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RE: Just suppose ? - 9/14/2010 6:55:45 AM   
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Yes true, but if there was no oil not sure that situation wouldn't be sorted out pretty quickly as well.

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RE: Just suppose ? - 9/14/2010 7:17:43 AM   
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Fair point, but I'm not sure that's the case. The presence of Israel is definitely at the heart of a lot of the mess in the middle east, and short of wiping it off the map, there's no easy way to resolve that one.

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