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A word of warning, don't insult the president - 9/13/2010 5:01:49 PM

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Interesting article, a UK teenager has been banned from visiting the US for life

So let that be a warning to all of you, sending nasty emails to the boss can get you in trouble.

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RE: A word of warning, don't insult the president - 9/13/2010 5:04:26 PM

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Interesting article, a UK teenager has been banned from visiting the US for life

So let that be a warning to all of you, sending nasty emails to the boss can get you in trouble.

You left out "threatening" from your description of the email.

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RE: A word of warning, don't insult the president - 9/13/2010 5:05:11 PM

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A Bedfordshire Police spokesman said: "The individual sent an email to the White House full of abusive and threatening language.

"We were informed by the Metropolitan Police and went to see him. He said, 'Oh dear, it was me'."

Officers will take no criminal action.

Imagine that... a college student being made to be responsible for his drunken actions.

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RE: A word of warning, don't insult the president - 9/13/2010 5:12:07 PM

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Wierd, I remeber the left being quite upset that an adult, who had renounced his US citizenship and agreed that Salman Rushdie should have been killed, was not allowed to come to the US.

But another Drunken Anti American Brit being on the 86 list is cool. Way to Go Obama!!!

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RE: A word of warning, don't insult the president - 9/13/2010 5:12:24 PM

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We need to start banning imams...

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RE: A word of warning, don't insult the president - 9/13/2010 5:17:20 PM

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Wierd, I remeber the left being quite upset that an adult, who had renounced his US citizenship and agreed that Salman Rushdie should have been killed, was not allowed to come to the US.

But another Drunken Anti American Brit being on the 86 list is cool. Way to Go Obama!!!

I know damn well you are not directing this question at me.

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RE: A word of warning, don't insult the president - 9/13/2010 5:18:35 PM

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And a drunken seventeen year old student in the UK is a threat ? Yeah he might have been threatening in his emotional outburst after seeing something on tv that upset him, but an actual threat to US security that warranted a life time ban, dear me, aren't there bigger fish to fry than a stupid teenager in another country, or was it because of the special relationship this was done ?

First BP becoming British Petroleum and now a British teenager feeling the presidents power. Methinks he doesn't like the Brits very much.

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RE: A word of warning, don't insult the president - 9/13/2010 5:19:52 PM

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And a drunken seventeen year old student in the UK is a threat ? Yeah he might have been threatening in his emotional outburst after seeing something on tv that upset him, but an actual threat to US security that warranted a life time ban, dear me, aren't there bigger fish to fry than a stupid teenager in another country, or was it because of the special relationship this was done ?

First BP becoming British Petroleum and now a British teenager feeling the presidents power. Methinks he doesn't like the Brits very much.

Who can blame him?

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RE: A word of warning, don't insult the president - 9/13/2010 5:22:06 PM

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Interesting article, a UK teenager has been banned from visiting the US for life

So let that be a warning to all of you, sending nasty emails to the boss can get you in trouble.

That's so insane. Really kind of sad...stuff like this makes me less and less homesick.

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RE: A word of warning, don't insult the president - 9/13/2010 5:23:58 PM

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Wierd, I remeber the left being quite upset that an adult, who had renounced his US citizenship and agreed that Salman Rushdie should have been killed, was not allowed to come to the US.

But another Drunken Anti American Brit being on the 86 list is cool. Way to Go Obama!!!

I know damn well you are not directing this question at me.

Where do you see a question?

Though as they say,

"If the hat fits, let them wear it"

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RE: A word of warning, don't insult the president - 9/13/2010 5:24:24 PM

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Methinks he doesn't like the Brits very much.

Maybe he has heard about the way some of you do nothing but sit around and slam his country? Or maybe it's because moony keeps saying everything your PM does is his fault? Or maybe he just hates brits?

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RE: A word of warning, don't insult the president - 9/13/2010 5:24:52 PM

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you're a fucking idiot.

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RE: A word of warning, don't insult the president - 9/13/2010 5:27:45 PM

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And Handsome, you already told me that today.

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RE: A word of warning, don't insult the president - 9/13/2010 5:47:32 PM

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http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/ineligibilities/ineligibilities_1364.html

He can go to Canada instead!

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RE: A word of warning, don't insult the president - 9/13/2010 6:01:34 PM

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If he were an American he would have just been corralled into a "free speech zone"

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RE: A word of warning, don't insult the president - 9/13/2010 6:24:51 PM

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When asked about the ban, Luke said: "I don't really care. My parents aren't very happy about it.

"The police who came round took my picture and told me I was banned from America forever."

A Bedfordshire Police spokesman said: "The individual sent an email to the White House full of abusive and threatening language.

Sending abusive and insulting remarks to the president is not illegal, however, including threats, threatening language etc is illegal.

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What Constitutes a "Threat?"

According to this law -- 18 USC Sec. 871 -- which reads, in part:

"...Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both."

If he had been in the United States and sent a threatening email, then he has committed a crime.

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RE: A word of warning, don't insult the president - 9/13/2010 6:32:17 PM

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If he were an American he would have just been corralled into a "free speech zone"

No. If he were an American, he would, at minimum be spending some time in the company of the Secret Service, and probably looking at federal charges. Threatening POTUS is a crime. Even as radical on the subject of free speech as I am, I'm completely ok with that.

edit to add, this is coming from JLF and I in agreement on something.

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RE: A word of warning, don't insult the president - 9/13/2010 6:37:01 PM

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Given the apparent dislike I perceive regarding Obama from certain quarters, I wonder how many US citizens also exercise their freedom of speech and similarly send threatening emails to the president, I wonder how many threats have been made, written, voiced or otherwise, does anything happen to these people ?

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RE: A word of warning, don't insult the president - 9/13/2010 6:51:51 PM

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Given the apparent dislike I perceive regarding Obama from certain quarters, I wonder how many US citizens also exercise their freedom of speech and similarly send threatening emails to the president, I wonder how many threats have been made, written, voiced or otherwise, does anything happen to these people ?

I believe they get their own Fox News shows.

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RE: A word of warning, don't insult the president - 9/13/2010 7:02:37 PM

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Any threat to a President, past or present, is taken very seriously by the FBI and the Secret Service as they should be.

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