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rulemylife -> AP-GfK Poll: Dems disliked, but so is GOP (9/24/2010 8:59:22 AM)

It jest might be that some of them Republican folks on this here board is counting thar chickens before they is hatched.



AP-GfK Poll: Dems disliked, but so is GOP


WASHINGTON – If anyone is scorned as much as Democrats these days, it's Republicans — the party that may recapture the House and perhaps the Senate in November's elections.

Yet Democrats trying to exploit the GOP's unpopularity in hopes of hanging onto control of Congress face a problem: People who dislike Democrats seem ready to vote in greater numbers than those with little use for Republicans.

In an Associated Press-GfK Poll this month, 60 percent disapprove of the job congressional Democrats are doing — yet 68 percent frown on how Republicans are performing. While 59 percent are unhappy with how Democrats are handling the economy, 64 percent are upset by the GOP's work on the country's top issue. Just over half have unfavorable views of each party.

Most say President Barack Obama isn't cooperating enough on the economy, yet even more accuse Republicans of the same thing. Former President George W. Bush and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin — the only two Republicans the AP-GfK Poll tested — are both viewed negatively by more than half in the survey, worse than Obama's marks.

And people overwhelmingly fault Bush more than Obama for the recession.




mnottertail -> RE: AP-GfK Poll: Dems disliked, but so is GOP (9/24/2010 10:03:08 AM)

You would think something like this would have them panicking, shitting their pants, and saying stupid shit like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1OXAi7rNMg




willbeurdaddy -> RE: AP-GfK Poll: Dems disliked, but so is GOP (9/24/2010 2:38:32 PM)

Did you bother to read what you posted before you wrote your intro line, or do you just not comprehend it?

"People who dislike Democrats seem ready to vote in greater numbers than those with little use for Republicans. "

And then it cites an AP-GFK poll of all adults...ie it doesnt take into account their likelihood of voting, which it already acknowledges hurts Dems more. What they dont say is it will hurt Dems FAR MORE, unless Obama can play the race card enough to rally the rabble.




FirmhandKY -> RE: AP-GfK Poll: Dems disliked, but so is GOP (9/24/2010 3:11:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

It jest might be that some of them Republican folks on this here board is counting thar chickens before they is hatched.



AP-GfK Poll: Dems disliked, but so is GOP


WASHINGTON – If anyone is scorned as much as Democrats these days, it's Republicans — the party that may recapture the House and perhaps the Senate in November's elections.

Yet Democrats trying to exploit the GOP's unpopularity in hopes of hanging onto control of Congress face a problem: People who dislike Democrats seem ready to vote in greater numbers than those with little use for Republicans.

In an Associated Press-GfK Poll this month, 60 percent disapprove of the job congressional Democrats are doing — yet 68 percent frown on how Republicans are performing. While 59 percent are unhappy with how Democrats are handling the economy, 64 percent are upset by the GOP's work on the country's top issue. Just over half have unfavorable views of each party.

Most say President Barack Obama isn't cooperating enough on the economy, yet even more accuse Republicans of the same thing. Former President George W. Bush and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin — the only two Republicans the AP-GfK Poll tested — are both viewed negatively by more than half in the survey, worse than Obama's marks.

And people overwhelmingly fault Bush more than Obama for the recession.



Hell, I don't like Democrats or Republicans either.

So?

Firm

Oh, btw ... pretty funny, comparing the popularity of a sitting Democratic President to the popularity of two Republicans who aren't even running ....

With comparisons like this, you have to have a bad case of confirmation bias going on ....




rulemylife -> RE: AP-GfK Poll: Dems disliked, but so is GOP (9/24/2010 3:29:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

Did you bother to read what you posted before you wrote your intro line, or do you just not comprehend it?

"People who dislike Democrats seem ready to vote in greater numbers than those with little use for Republicans. "

And then it cites an AP-GFK poll of all adults...ie it doesnt take into account their likelihood of voting, which it already acknowledges hurts Dems more. What they dont say is it will hurt Dems FAR MORE, unless Obama can play the race card enough to rally the rabble.


I definitely read it.

Voter turnout projections are far less reliable than approval numbers.

And one thing that both you and the article ignore is the high rate of incumbents that retain their seats.

Voters may bitch and moan about Congress but in the end they tend to prefer the evil they know over the one they don't.





rulemylife -> RE: AP-GfK Poll: Dems disliked, but so is GOP (9/24/2010 3:48:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY


Hell, I don't like Democrats or Republicans either.

So?

Firm

Oh, btw ... pretty funny, comparing the popularity of a sitting Democratic President to the popularity of two Republicans who aren't even running ....

With comparisons like this, you have to have a bad case of confirmation bias going on ....



You really have a fetish for this confirmation bias thing.  I can't count how many times I've seen you use the phrase.  Unfortunately, I didn't write what you deem as confirmation of confirmation bias.

But in defense of what was written, the fact that the public faults Bush for the recession doesn't bode well for Republicans considering they are making the economy their primary focus.  It also tends to fly in the face of your belief that Obama now "owns" the problem.  He may have to deal with it but the poll indicates the majority of people realize he inherited a dismal situation.

As for Palin, she has interjected herself into this election with her endorsements of candidates and campaigning for them. 

And by the way, as far as your comment about Bush and Palin not running, did you happen to notice Obama is not either?




FirmhandKY -> RE: AP-GfK Poll: Dems disliked, but so is GOP (9/25/2010 9:14:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

You really have a fetish for this confirmation bias thing.  I can't count how many times I've seen you use the phrase.

And I can't count the number of times that it is proudly displayed here in the forums.


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

Unfortunately, I didn't write what you deem as confirmation of confirmation bias.

Most people have a difficult time seeing (much less acknowledging) their own biases.



quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife

But in defense of what was written, the fact that the public faults Bush for the recession doesn't bode well for Republicans considering they are making the economy their primary focus.  It also tends to fly in the face of your belief that Obama now "owns" the problem.  He may have to deal with it but the poll indicates the majority of people realize he inherited a dismal situation.

Bush wasn't much of a conservative, and I've posted my disagreements with some of his policies  Most conservatives recognized that he wasn't a conservative.  He has also been out of office for going on a couple of years.

And the entire debt caused by Bush's actions pale in comparison to the debt that the Obama administration and Democratic Congress has caused, and will cause, with their legislation and policies.



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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

As for Palin, she has interjected herself into this election with her endorsements of candidates and campaigning for them. 

hmmm, you don't think she has a right to speak up because she is a woman, or because she holds conservative views?


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

And by the way, as far as your comment about Bush and Palin not running, did you happen to notice Obama is not either?

Notice my comment about "sitting" in office?

You do see the difference between someone who holds an elected policy position in our government, and ones who do not, don't you?

Firm




rulemylife -> RE: AP-GfK Poll: Dems disliked, but so is GOP (9/26/2010 7:34:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

You really have a fetish for this confirmation bias thing.  I can't count how many times I've seen you use the phrase.

And I can't count the number of times that it is proudly displayed here in the forums.


Myself, I would not be so proud of using a cliche with very little substance over and over, but whatever floats your boat Firm.


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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY
Most people have a difficult time seeing (much less acknowledging) their own biases.


That's the funniest part of this.

You are completely blind to your own biases while being judgmental of others.

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY
Bush wasn't much of a conservative, and I've posted my disagreements with some of his policies  Most conservatives recognized that he wasn't a conservative.  He has also been out of office for going on a couple of years.

And the entire debt caused by Bush's actions pale in comparison to the debt that the Obama administration and Democratic Congress has caused, and will cause, with their legislation and policies.


Yes, I know Bush was never really a conservative. 

I found this out by listening to the people who had fervently supported him for seven years suddenly turning their backs when his poll numbers became anemic and he was judged a liability to the GOP.

I'm just curious, do you guys have any conservatives left besides the Alaskan bimbo?


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

As for Palin, she has interjected herself into this election with her endorsements of candidates and campaigning for them. 


quote:

ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

hmmm, you don't think she has a right to speak up because she is a woman, or because she holds conservative views?


Hmmm, what a sad tactic.

Yes Firm, I'm really a misogynist who dislikes Palin because she is a woman.


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife
And by the way, as far as your comment about Bush and Palin not running, did you happen to notice Obama is not either?


quote:

ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY
Notice my comment about "sitting" in office?

You do see the difference between someone who holds an elected policy position in our government, and ones who do not, don't you?


No.

Not when one of those not sitting in office has his misguided policies still wreaking havoc and not when the other not sitting in office somehow has the gullible convinced her opinions have value.




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