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RE: What is cuckold? - 4/25/2006 12:17:20 PM

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If I may say at the outset it has been a pleasure to read all of the posts and for me it shows the forum at its very best. It has been both interesting and illuminating to see the subject argued and discussed from different perspectives and experiences. OK enough grovelling lol What I found particularly interesting was how much, in the Mistresses experience, cucks or 'wannabe' cucks approach the subject with their own 'fetish wish list' and a female can become subordinate to the cucks desires. For my own part, I was cucked for over a year and a half by my previous partner. She had total power over her sex life .......... she decided the when, the where and with whom. It was not an alternative to the other forms of discipline, humiliation and control she used on me, it was for her pleasure and an extension or addition to her dominance. Did she sleep with many men? At times she did and at others she did not. It was not the scale or frequency which mattered but the knowledge that she had complete sexual control. I agree with the point made by an earlier post ........ I am certainly not 'wimpy' or weak in every day life but transform completely with the right Mistress. Cuckolding for me was a powerful extension to her dominance and gave me some of the most intense intoxicating feelings of humiliation and submission. The mixture of those feelings coupled with my joy at seeing her sexual pleasure was unforgettable.

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RE: What is cuckold? - 4/25/2006 2:32:00 PM

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I imagined a lioness, aggressively wanton, getting impregnated then discarding the male as inconsequential when I read that yum yum. I love aggressive sex, but the way I see it the only requirements for aggression, are to procreate and to protect/provide … aggression at any other time is pointless and not conducive to harmony of self or others. Hence enjoying sub men.

that's why i don't bed my slaves. why the hell would i want to hump a man that is LESS sexually dominant and agressive than me. it's just nature.. it's just darwinian. in sex (even in male on bottom sex).. it is still HE that is penetrating ME.. when i strapon fuck one of my slaves..lol they aren't saying they're fucking me.. it's OBVIOUS who's getting it. if i'm going to have sex with a man, and OBVIOUSLY i'd be the fuckee not the fucker.. then yes.. he better be a Real Man sexually- more dominant than me. so in that reason i like bull males.

lol but that's about it.

my slaves are my companions.

my Bulls are just a fuck. everyone gets what they want and everyone is happy. i have my Bulls for a nice rough rubber fuck and then i have my slaves to rub my feet and paint my toenails..

it's the best of both worlds..

That is very interesting indeed. I once wrote a story like that. I wish I could find it. Its about a Village of women who have slaves but they also breed strong Bulls as sex objects. Still the slaves get most of the attention and love. Poor old bulls. lol

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RE: What is cuckold? - 4/25/2006 3:15:04 PM

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That is very interesting indeed. I once wrote a story like that. I wish I could find it. Its about a Village of women who have slaves but they also breed strong Bulls as sex objects. Still the slaves get most of the attention and love. Poor old bulls. lol

hey if you find it.. i'd like to read it.

and i can think of a few cucks that would get a kick out of it..

lord only knows what happens to the old bulls.

let me guess.. they get castrated (aaah.. such a fantasy of mine).. put out to pasture, then forced to lactate so they can be transformed into dairy cows?

hehe

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RE: What is cuckold? - 4/26/2006 7:21:30 AM

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What a fascinating thread this is. I wonder how many subs actually serve as cuckolds as opposed to simply fantasizing about it. i don't know if i could actually perform fully as a cuck, but it is exciting as hell for me to imagine it. Perhaps with the right Mistress it could happen. How do you go about making a man who is dominant in other ways but subservient to you, succumb to the point that he will go down on another man simply to entertain and please you, or how do you make him perform the humiliating task of cleaning up you and your lover afterward?

Do you simply command him to do this? Or do you use a combination of your dominance with nurturing to persuade him to do this? In other words, do you lean down next to him and whisper in his ear sensually as you feed him your lover's cock, and then as he begins to take it, do you gently stroke his face and tell him what a good boy he is and how much he is pleasing you, etc.; or do you simply say, "suck it bitch"? Just curious about the technique used to turn a man into a cuck.

I really appreciate the contributions by the Mistresses.

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RE: What is cuckold? - 4/26/2006 8:27:57 AM

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I wonder how many Vanilla men, are cuchholded and dont realize it.

I think its about the power dynamic between the them. If the mistress takes so much power that the slave becomes property, why would she be faithful to property?

I own a car, but yet when I go to Vancouver, I rent one... Do I consider my car may be jealous of the rental?

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RE: What is cuckold? - 4/26/2006 9:27:44 AM

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I think its about the power dynamic between the them. If the mistress takes so much power that the slave becomes property, why would she be faithful to property/quote]

she doesn't have to be. and you're right- she takes the control of her sex life in a domme sub situation. she is free.

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RE: What is cuckold? - 4/30/2006 7:32:29 AM

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I just wanted to thank all of your for posting. I'm one of those wannabe cucks. I've read about it extensively for 3 years. But have had a hard time finding anyone, Domme/Mistress or vanilla, who is interested in that aspect of a relationship. But thank you all for sharing.

-Rod

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RE: What is cuckold? - 4/30/2006 1:05:42 PM

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Not only cuck boys have a strong desire to perform cleaning services, I like too.
Like to lick my Mistress after her copulation, and have her seeing me cleaning her partner.

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RE: What is cuckold? - 4/30/2006 1:42:46 PM

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Cars are not sentient beings. I mean, I understand what you're saying, but it's still natural for an owned sub to feel jealousy even if he or she just has to bear it.

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If the mistress takes so much power that the slave becomes property, why would she be faithful to property?

I own a car, but yet when I go to Vancouver, I rent one... Do I consider my car may be jealous of the rental?

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RE: What is cuckold? - 4/30/2006 2:17:40 PM

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Yes, jealousy happens. Cant deny that. Couple people a year get murdered in jealous fits.

If the dom has been granted this power (or freedom) she should exercise it as she wishes, without undue consideration of the sub - Isnt the point to hurt his feelings, anyhow?

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RE: What is cuckold? - 4/30/2006 2:33:49 PM

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Cars are not sentient beings. I mean, I understand what you're saying, but it's still natural for an owned sub to feel jealousy even if he or she just has to bear it.

i like when my slaves are jealous.. keeps them on their toes

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RE: What is cuckold? - 4/30/2006 7:17:00 PM

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If an older man living with a younger very sexual woman, loves and cares for her, realizing he can't always give her the good, hard, fucking she needs, and they discuss the situation. He is willing to allow her to invite occasonal males to have sex with, if she is willing to allow him to always be there, watching, protecting, and partisapating. The males would be screened and agreed on by both. His desire is for her to be completely satisified sexually so she would never be tempted to cheat. It is honest and keeps the relationship in tact. Is this man a cuckold?

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RE: What is cuckold? - 4/30/2006 7:20:50 PM

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Yes, he is a cuckold.

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RE: What is cuckold? - 4/30/2006 7:25:45 PM

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The male partner is calling the shots...so in my book no he is not been cuckolded...he is merely sharing his partner with others... something plenty of couples agree to do.

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RE: What is cuckold? - 4/30/2006 7:40:30 PM

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As I've said, in most cases I've known the male is the one who wants to be cuckolded in the first place and takes the first steps toward making the idea a reality.

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RE: What is cuckold? - 4/30/2006 7:51:07 PM

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Exactly, which doesn't make them cuckolds, it makes them men with a fantasy of watching their partners being fucked by others.

In this scenario, Aneedtosubmit specifically stated the male in his scenario would allow it so his partner won't cheat and that it must be a mutual decision as to who gets fucked when and how and that the male of the equation is always present and participating. It is not cuckolding, it is 'Hot Wives' or at the very least swinging.

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RE: What is cuckold? - 4/30/2006 7:52:35 PM

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to be cuckholded is a fantasy i hope to see become real.. if my wife is not satisified with the duration should she chastise me? she said the size isd good but tooo short and soes not satisify her should i be I think so any input please

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RE: What is cuckold? - 4/30/2006 8:42:04 PM

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If an older man living with a younger very sexual woman, loves and cares for her, realizing he can't always give her the good, hard, fucking she needs, and they discuss the situation. He is willing to allow her to invite occasonal males to have sex with, if she is willing to allow him to always be there, watching, protecting, and partisapating. The males would be screened and agreed on by both. His desire is for her to be completely satisified sexually so she would never be tempted to cheat. It is honest and keeps the relationship in tact. Is this man a cuckold?

By general definition... if you define the word 'unfaithful' as the female having sex with another even though the husband has given his stamp of approval on a specific male... then yes, he's a cuckold.

Personally, I would not find this male not to be a cuckold.... agreeing or knowing that his wife can do as she pleases when and if she pleases is one thing, but choosing the specific partners along with her in a screening process? That takes the control out of her hands, and to me the control being held by the female is a key part of a cuckold relationship.

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RE: What is cuckold? - 4/30/2006 10:42:31 PM

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Well, as long as we're both just going to stick to our private definitions of "cuckold," we're going to keep talking past each other. And that's fine. We're all entitled to our own idea of what the word means. But he's a "cuckold" by the dictionary definition--and also by the definition that most people happen to use. For most people, what you call "Hot Wives" IS cuckolding. If you see a cuckold personal ad, or walk into a cuckold chat room, or if some dumass writes to you about trying to strike up a cuckold relationship, it's almost always the case that the male is pulling the strings trying to get someone to fuck his "hot wife."

It doesn't really matter to me whether the male is calling the shots, or whether he's doing it because he loves his wife, or because he's a voyeur, or because he gets off on the idea of having another man fuck his wife. As far as I'm concerned, if a man cooperates in his wife's affair with another man, he's a cuckold.

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Exactly, which doesn't make them cuckolds, it makes them men with a fantasy of watching their partners being fucked by others.

In this scenario, Aneedtosubmit specifically stated the male in his scenario would allow it so his partner won't cheat and that it must be a mutual decision as to who gets fucked when and how and that the male of the equation is always present and participating. It is not cuckolding, it is 'Hot Wives' or at the very least swinging.

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RE: What is cuckold? - 4/30/2006 11:14:39 PM

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it's almost always the case that the male is pulling the strings trying to get someone to fuck his "hot wife."

Then why not just say it for what it is ... fuck my wife ...

Lets understand the definition of cuckold shall we. A cuckoldress is a woman who is unfaithful to her partner. It is the woman who does this to her man. Getting someone to fuck the wife while he watches is not cuckolding a partner...its it a mutually agreed fuck fest.

So I don't care how many chatrooms or lists are dedicated to the 'Hot Wife' fantasy under the guise of cuckolding...it is a flawed premise. But you seem to enjoy your position as the 'bull', thats sweet, enjoy all that you do...but you and the 'wife' are not cuckolding anyone...you are fucking someone elses partner and she is getting fucked for his pleasure, to fullfil a fantasy.

The word cuckold and the cuckold dynamic have been hi-jacked to suit the fantasy world and the fantasy world has nothing to do with a dominant female who cuckolds her partner...that is MY point of difference...and given this was thread raised on the Ask A Mistress forum I am want to discuss the cuckold dynamic from that position.

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