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MistressRoux -> male subs and slaves: consensual white slavery (9/29/2010 1:11:04 PM)

*warning: I would NOT do this. It is a fantasy*

Another FemDom elsewhere raised this and it has crossed My mind more than once though it seems far too time consuming and clashes with personal ethics. I wouldn't do it personally. I live in a place in which prostitution is legal, but it may be a legal gray area.

I imagine inviting the vanilla customers come in and having slaves with prices tattooed on their body, for customers to pick from. They would be available for longer-term rental like cars. The ones who never get customers would become human furniture. For the kinksters, same protocol with lining up. Customers could then pick out one or several slaves, with a full range of rooms, areas and implements for play. Because even in fantasies, I try to be ethical, slaves would get tested frequently and only safer sex practices. On the other hand, I'd want them branded with a number and they would have to farm and do housework when not busy.

How many of you would consent to be pimped by a Dom/me and kept 24/7 for that purpose? Do any of you have experience with white slavery?

*to be clear: I would NOT do this. It is a fantasy*





DesFIP -> RE: male subs and slaves: consensual white slavery (9/29/2010 1:46:13 PM)

So you would test the slaves for diseases. But who's testing the clientele?

Not even fantasy material here.




MistressRoux -> RE: male subs and slaves: consensual white slavery (9/29/2010 2:14:15 PM)

My question is in regards to willingness to go into "white slavery."

Same deal as regular monitored prostitution. My conscience and the fantasy blurred. I'm vigilant about practicing safer sex. But again, not about fantasy but on willingness to enter into white slavery.




Wolf2Bear -> RE: male subs and slaves: consensual white slavery (9/29/2010 2:41:21 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressRoux

*warning: I would NOT do this. It is a fantasy*

Another FemDom elsewhere raised this and it has crossed My mind more than once though it seems far too time consuming and clashes with personal ethics. I wouldn't do it personally. I live in a place in which prostitution is legal, but it may be a legal gray area.

I imagine inviting the vanilla customers come in and having slaves with prices tattooed on their body, for customers to pick from. They would be available for longer-term rental like cars. The ones who never get customers would become human furniture. For the kinksters, same protocol with lining up. Customers could then pick out one or several slaves, with a full range of rooms, areas and implements for play. Because even in fantasies, I try to be ethical, slaves would get tested frequently and only safer sex practices. On the other hand, I'd want them branded with a number and they would have to farm and do housework when not busy.

How many of you would consent to be pimped by a Dom/me and kept 24/7 for that purpose? Do any of you have experience with white slavery?

*to be clear: I would NOT do this. It is a fantasy*




In this hypothetical situation, I would have to say no. My reasoning: it would entail too much self control required of me to give up, I have been in a relationship where my former owner did share me among a select few friends of his and that was acceptable. Anything else would violate my sense of comfortability in a negative way. It would make a great fantasy if it was a weekend/short term role play situation but no further for this guy.




littlewonder -> RE: male subs and slaves: consensual white slavery (9/29/2010 3:38:03 PM)

ignore...just realized this was geared towards male subs...I'm not male but as a femslave I can say it holds no interest.




trueshadow -> RE: male subs and slaves: consensual white slavery (9/29/2010 8:15:17 PM)

Well, since I'm not in my 20s and a hardbody, I'd have to say that I'd end up perpetual furniture.  That might be fun for a while.  As far as being a farm slave and sleeping naked in the barn with other slaves, again, that might be a fun fantasy, but it would become very, very boring before long.

I have no objection to a female-dominated society (in fact I'd love that), but most women still look for the prince on the white horse to come and rescue them from, er, human furniture.




MistressRoux -> RE: male subs and slaves: consensual white slavery (9/30/2010 1:34:41 AM)

There is no way that I would even live this out, even for a weekend. Sharing a slave with FRIENDS every now and again? Yes. Running a brothel even for a day? Never.




Wheldrake -> RE: male subs and slaves: consensual white slavery (9/30/2010 1:10:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: trueshadow

Well, since I'm not in my 20s and a hardbody, I'd have to say that I'd end up perpetual furniture.  That might be fun for a while.  As far as being a farm slave and sleeping naked in the barn with other slaves, again, that might be a fun fantasy, but it would become very, very boring before long.



You never know. Some customers might prefer a mature submissive, and as for not being a hardbody, the brothel would just need a good strict trainer to whip guys like you (and me) into shape.

Another thought on how to run the place. Tattooing prices on the merchandise might be impractical - what if the management wanted to change the prices around? A collar with a little tag indicating the price would allow more flexibility. Also, are the men supposed to hand themselves over to the brothel for life, or would they sign contracts for a few months or years? If they weren't going to be permanent, applying tattoos and brands might be a problem.

For me the idea of being kept in a brothel is excellent fantasy fodder. Part of me really likes the thought of being treated impersonally, by a tough-minded owner who just wants to exploit me and make money. If I could sign up for six months or a year in the brothel, and then return to my ordinary life and magically pick up exactly where I left off, I would probably do it provided the conditions were safe and the brothel management seemed capable. In reality, my career and personal commitments would get in the way of a stint as a "white slave", and I wouldn't be willing to just throw them away and sign up for life. But it's still fun to think about.




MistressRoux -> RE: male subs and slaves: consensual white slavery (10/1/2010 8:21:38 AM)

Thanks wheldrake for the thoughtful and honest response.

Ya. Many fantasies aren't practical. The thought of reducing a slave to just a number and price is a turn-on. I hate to admit it, but the thought of "breaking" a slave a la Roots does something...




MsTrue -> RE: male subs and slaves: consensual white slavery (10/1/2010 8:47:44 AM)

Despite the aforementioned impracticalites, I love the fantasy.

My question to the slave's is would the mind that high number of male doms vs female dommes because as we know, females very rarely have to "pay".




servantforuse -> RE: male subs and slaves: consensual white slavery (10/2/2010 11:29:11 AM)

I also love the fantasy and would do so under the right circumstances. 30 days or so as a slave with no contact with the outside world is a fantasy of mine...




Wheldrake -> RE: male subs and slaves: consensual white slavery (10/3/2010 2:19:46 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressRoux

Thanks wheldrake for the thoughtful and honest response.

Ya. Many fantasies aren't practical. The thought of reducing a slave to just a number and price is a turn-on. I hate to admit it, but the thought of "breaking" a slave a la Roots does something...


I've never read "Roots", or even seen the miniseries, but the idea of being broken definitely pushes a few buttons. Maybe you would need a fenced-off area out somewhere behind the brothel that would be like a boot camp for the new slaves - a place where they would improve their physical condition, work on their skills in the area of, um, customer service, and develop an obedient attitude, all under the guidance of strict handlers and trainers. Slaves would of course be eager if not desperate to "graduate" from training in the boot camp to service in the brothel, which would be somewhat gentler as long as they behaved themselves.

As to MsTrue's question, I would try to see servicing the male customers as an act of submission to the owner of the brothel, who would hopefully be a tough, experienced dominant woman. But I like to think we'd get a fair number of female customers through the door in any case. The trick would be to offer an experience that was better, hotter and more congenial than they could easily find elsewhere.




igor2003 -> RE: male subs and slaves: consensual white slavery (10/3/2010 3:19:31 PM)

To the OP...

Sure!  Sign me up!

Oh...er...uh...wait a minute.  Branding?  Permanent tattoos?  FARM WORK?  Let me rethink this! 

Actually it is a great fantasy, but like several of my fantasies, I think I'll just leave it as such.  Must say I like the way you think though!




leadership527 -> RE: male subs and slaves: consensual white slavery (10/3/2010 3:33:20 PM)

So I'm totally unclear on the question.

You are asking about what someone would actually do in a hypothetical, fantasy scencario. How do you answer that? I guess I'd behave in accordance with whatever hypothetical, fantasy based rules were in place in this scenario.

In a fantasy sense, I would do anything.




cincycuck -> RE: male subs and slaves: consensual white slavery (10/3/2010 8:27:52 PM)

perhaps... idk




boi4lady -> RE: male subs and slaves: consensual white slavery (10/5/2010 1:00:38 PM)

Let me think.... white slavery would mean that I have no choice who I serve and no say in how long or of course the nature of the servitude. Thus, it could be a man or woman of any type. Honestly, in fantasy is appeals to me, but then in fantasy just about everything appeals to me.

In that fantasy though, it is my Mistress who rents me out and to whom the report of my behavior would be given. That would mean that whoever used me, it is ultimately for her enjoyment and amusement. In other words, it would be a way of serving her, whoever the subscriber or "renter". It definitely appeals to me. In real life, Mistress occasionally would have me dress in my finest sissy outfits, put on full makeup and wig and would allow men to use me. Now that I am a "free agent" I have done the same myself a couple of times, but it isn't the same. She did not, though, rent me out and she was always present so that I knew ultimately it was her I served and not the men. Had she decided to do so, I am sure I would have obeyed, but it is kind of a catch-22. The kind of Mistress that I want would care enough about my safety that she wouldn't rent me to a bunch of strangers for kink. Perhaps though.... if she knew the men or women involved, that might be different.




Steponme73 -> RE: male subs and slaves: consensual white slavery (10/7/2010 2:53:27 PM)

I think in fantasy land it would be good. The problem I would have would be who I served. First, as a slave I would not want to serve a male. I am not into that in anyway shape or form. So that probably would preclude me.
If however, it was for women only...that would be different story. I have worked on a farm and was treated almost like a slave. It is hard work, and long hours.
There are a couple of women on collarme that offer that kind of enviornment. To do that 24/7 would again be hard to do. Because I am in my "golden" more like pewter years, I would probably make a good foot stool. For the young at heart and pain people they may like that.
Running a brothel...now that would be hard work. I think there is more there than one knows...
thanks for the post.




shivermetimbers -> RE: male subs and slaves: consensual white slavery (10/11/2010 2:15:02 AM)

Heck, as a fantasy, hell yes. In the fantasy, I'd be in better shape of course. The thought of having no control over who rents me and for whatever purpose they have in mind, only to be returned again for some other deviant?

Of course, I'm assuming I won't end up being perpetual furniture. That would really suck.




powerplaying -> RE: male subs and slaves: consensual white slavery (10/13/2010 2:03:37 PM)

quote:

tested frequently and only safer sex practices. On the other hand, I'd want them branded with a number and they would have to farm and do housework when not busy.
How many of you would consent to be pimped by a Dom/me and kept 24/7 for that purpose? Do any of you have experience with white slavery?


The furniture part is fantasy, also the price tattoo. There are gay prostitutes rented for sex, and there are even male subs who can be rented in domme studios as well as female subs. Prices are high and might be 100 - 200 € per hour. Who can afford a longterm rental, and for what purpose? If you just need a gardener or construction wórker, you can employ one the regular way, will cost less per hour. I don't think, the skincolor of the slave doesn't play a real role in the question.
I think the questions are: Would you be slave 24/7? Would you agree to be rented out to strangers with the domme cashing in?
My answers would be: Yes, if the relationship works well. And: yes, but not as the central part of the relationship, and maybe only for work, not for anything involving bondage, because the customer might be a sicko and use no condom or do damage.

Best wishes

André






PeonForHer -> RE: male subs and slaves: consensual white slavery (10/13/2010 8:29:19 PM)

FR

A big 'yes' if my owner were to be dead sexy, a big 'no' otherwise.

Hmmm.  I'll think about that some more.  That qualifies as a horny fantasy.




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