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Tell me, friend, who gets to define what your living is? Isn't it you? I don't need an argument about people making a lot of money. I support people in their success...you do not. You begrudge it because it is somehow unfair to you. It is not more often the case than not that people do little to make lots of money. That is just the chip on your shoulder talking.

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The attorneys I know that are the wealthiest are the ones that are in their offices at 6:30 a.m. and turn out the lights to go home at 10:00 p.m. I would imagine that is the way it is for most successful people in their chosen field.

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Society is not about leveling the playing field. Society is not about hand outs and entitlements. That is the society you crave because you need it. Not me...thanks. I need "society" and "government" to stay out of my way. I don't need Obama Care, nor do I need social security. I just need to be allowed to make the money I normally make and not be taxed to the tune of almost 50% Federal and State.

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The income gap between the richest and poorest Americans grew last year to its largest margin ever, a stark divide as Democrats and Republicans spar over whether to extend Bush-era tax cuts for the wealthy.

The top-earning 20 percent of Americans – those making more than $100,000 each year – received 49.4 percent of all income generated in the U.S., compared with the 3.4 percent made by the bottom 20 percent of earners, those who fell below the poverty line, according to the new figures. That ratio of 14.5-to-1 was an increase from 13.6 in 2008 and nearly double a low of 7.69 in 1968.

At the top, the wealthiest 5 percent of Americans, who earn more than $180,000, added slightly to their annual incomes last year, the data show. Families at the $50,000 median level slipped lower.

How freakishly stupid!!!!  The income gap will always widen between the rich and mother fucking poor, genius, because money begets money!  Goddamn!  This is the basic stuff I learned in elementary school.  If you have a lot of money, you are going to make tons more by investing in interest bearing securities that are tax free.  Heyyyyyy....how simple.  If I go into a bad economy rich..........................I come out SUPER RICH.   Everyone understand that?  I buy low and I wait to sell high.  That is just life, kids.  It isn't unfair.  It isn't unjust.  It is just the way it is. 

Poor people will often become poorer.  Some will become poorer because opportunities will cease to exist.  Their industries will go out of business, etc.  Some poor people will become even poorer because of their habits; additions, laziness, incompetence, whatever.  Some people who were super rich will become very poor because their investments will go to hell.  Some people just have damned bad luck.  That is life.  To blame it on capitalism and liberty reveals enormous weakness and ignorance. 

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Tell me, friend, who gets to define what your living is? Isn't it you? I don't need an argument about people making a lot of money. I support people in their success...you do not. You begrudge it because it is somehow unfair to you. It is not more often the case than not that people do little to make lots of money. That is just the chip on your shoulder talking.

No I don't support unlimited earnings because it pushes up the cost of living so in the end the extra earning potential is merely symbolic in nature.nonsense. The cost of living - without corresponding increases in standard of living - is the result of inflationary monetary policy. When the money supply grows at the same rate as GDP the standard of living increases but the cost of living doesnt. It's like when you buy a train ticket the cost of it shouldn't just be plucked out of the air. It should be based on the journey and the service you get; in a way that is comparable to other services. I havent taken a train in several years, thats certainly how it was priced then, as is airfare now.

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The attorneys I know that are the wealthiest are the ones that are in their offices at 6:30 a.m. and turn out the lights to go home at 10:00 p.m. I would imagine that is the way it is for most successful people in their chosen field.

These people work because it's all they know, if you get into the habit of working that late then you are probably too far gone to help because the need to work is engrained in your personality. total bullshit. Some people work extraordinary hours because they love it, some because its all they know, and some because they arent skilled or talented enough to accomplish their goals in less time. The important thing is that it is THEIR goals, not some moron's on an internet board telling them what their life should be. It don't sound like these people have much time to spend their money. I'd personally prefer they had a better work/life balance. It doesn't really matter to me how much they earn other than the fact high earnings inevitably causes inflation due to people paying through the nose for things because they can afford to and don't know the true value of those items. again you dont understand what causes inflation nor how the "true value" of anything is determined

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Society is not about leveling the playing field. Society is not about hand outs and entitlements. That is the society you crave because you need it. Not me...thanks. I need "society" and "government" to stay out of my way. I don't need Obama Care, nor do I need social security. I just need to be allowed to make the money I normally make and not be taxed to the tune of almost 50% Federal and State.

You don't know what I need. For example I don't need incapacity benefit, housing benefit or unemployment benefit but I don't begrudge anyone it. To do so would not recognise the fact that any of us can fall on hard times. If you don't want society then you'll find more freedom in the desert. societies can prosper more with economic freedom than by shackling the producers with your idea of what society is obligated to provide. There is no reason you have to stay here, you are capable of surviving anywhere as long as you have money in your pocket right?

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Sorry sport, your whole post is based on emotion and your feelings. Who says that people who work late are doing the only thing they know how to do? Where do you come up with this crap?

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Who says that making money raises the cost of living? I know it raises the standard of living?

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It's another self evident and obvious fact. If earnings go up then people know they can charge more for things.

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It's another self evident and obvious fact. If earnings go up then people know they can charge more for things.

It may be self-evident and obvious to you but its wrong.

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The cost of living - without corresponding increases in standard of living - is the result of inflationary monetary policy. When the money supply grows at the same rate as GDP the standard of living increases but the cost of living doesnt.

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So many misconception, so little time.

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The cost of living - without corresponding increases in standard of living - is the result of inflationary monetary policy. When the money supply grows at the same rate as GDP the standard of living increases but the cost of living doesnt.

Sounds like a typical economist: looking at the numbers and ignoring the obvious around them.

The rest was just your usual moronic insults so little point in this post of yours.

What are you going to do for a follow up, tell the doctor where it doesn't hurt?

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Without addressing it, just like you are doing.

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Tell me what business you are in and I'll hand your competitor a shovel.

Such drivel, nobody seems to have any compassion anymore.

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Says the poster child of obfuscation.......


It`s not capitalism that`s the problem.It`s the capitalists.The predator capitalists that is.The one`s who bet our money and lost and then socialized their loses,putting it on their victims,the American taxpayer to pay for.

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Where is this nation that practices Twue Capitalism, where taxes are low, regulations and labor unions nonexistant,

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and there is a healthy vibrant middle class?

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Tell me what business you are in and I'll hand your competitor a shovel.

Such drivel, nobody seems to have any compassion anymore.

SL4, we don't elect people to office in the U.S. to be "compassionate." We elect them to run our govt and lately they've been doing a piss-poor job of it!
I guess 40 years of "foreign aid" isn't compassionate enough? It never should have lasted that long!
Washington isn't supposed to be running a charity for foreign countries!

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I don't really think that the U.S. could be described as a "capitalist" country anymore.
We are handing out "foreign aid" to somewhere in excess of 130 differant countries, we have things like "the agency for international developement" which evidently their "goal" is to "help" foreign countries to become "competitors" of ours yet they tell us it's to ,"create new markets for our goods and services." Oh Really?
In true "capitalism" you don't "help" your competition you fucking BURY them if you can!
And in capitalism if you need more employees you raise the wages and increase the benefits until you get more, not hire people who sneak into our country illegally and will work for much less than U.S. Citizens.
No, the U.S. is a *long way away from being a capitalist country.*

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Tell me what business you are in and I'll hand your competitor a shovel.

Such drivel, nobody seems to have any compassion anymore.

SL4, we don't elect people to office in the U.S. to be "compassionate." We elect them to run our govt and lately they've been doing a piss-poor job of it!
I guess 40 years of "foreign aid" isn't compassionate enough? It never should have lasted that long!
Washington isn't supposed to be running a charity for foreign countries!

Speak for yourself, popeye1250. I want my elected officals in office, to be compassionate. I also want them to be sane, intelligent, educated, wise, and patient. They should be the sort of people I could sit down, and talk at a B.S. collegel level, not a 6th grader's understanding of things. Are there any canidates for the Republican/Tea Party that hold these values? Not really....

Do you even have a clue what foreign aid 'is' and 'isn't'? Washington is, what the people of the USA, says it is. Its not a 'Democratic Republic' for nothing (or Constitutional Republic as some argue). Unfortunately, large organizations have made it much harder for individual Americans to be heard. There's an active group, that dont want individuals to be heard, or to hold these same large organizations accountible for their actions. Take a guess which political party, wants less regulations on large organizations?