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ElanSubdued -> RE: Punishment Spanking Then Massage (10/21/2010 11:49:57 AM)
strangedesire quote: For anyone who wants to do behavior modification, having a good understanding of classical and operant conditioning are essential. I don't have the training that I would consider necessary: I took a course on behaviorist models, but if I wanted to seriously work with someone to change behavior using these models, I'd want to do some postgrad-level work and pick up a few books targeted at teaching educators to deal with autistic and special ed populations. I'm a scientist. I love "fun" punishment, but if I was going to use punishment that the recipient wouldn't enjoy, I'd make damn sure that there was theoretical and/or clinical evidence showing effectiveness. To do otherwise is cruel and leans toward abusive. Just checking in. Thanks for the background above. I've appreciated all your posts. The reply I made (vis-a-vis "undecided lesbian") was meant entirely in a friendly, supportive way. I hope you didn't take any offense to that and if you did, please accept my apologies. quote: Next you're going to be telling me that I should build my own GUI. Who has the time? My primary computer is a $300 laptop - as long as it works, I don't put much stock in geekier-than-thou dick waving. Well, actually, in regard to "geekier-than-thou dick waving", you've proven yourself capable in a most informative, pleasant, and endearing way. Please, wave away! :-) Elan.

strangedesire -> RE: Punishment Spanking Then Massage (10/21/2010 1:48:22 PM)
I was teasing back, Elan! Hopefully no offense taken all around.

January -> RE: Punishment Spanking Then Massage (10/21/2010 2:14:10 PM)
quote: For anyone who wants to do behavior modification, having a good understanding of classical and operant conditioning are essential. No graduate degree in psych is needed. A little common sense, empathy and logic goes a long way. So does experience. Like the kind you get by raising happy, moral children. January

CollarSubGirl -> RE: Punishment Spanking Then Massage (10/21/2010 3:17:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: angelikaJ quote: ORIGINAL: littlewonder I keep reading how you can't see a doc for your depression. I really really don't understand this. Why not? I mean no matter how poor you are you can still see someone other than your Dom but an actual professional. There are docs with sliding scale fees and even some who will see you for free or at least payment plans. I've been dirt broke without even a penny to spare and I've been able to see someone for my depression. If it's because you say you don't have time..make time or die. It's that simple when it comes to your health. Your Dom is not a professional even if he claims to be majoring in it. He'll always have a bias in which he really can't help you. To be fair to her, we know nothing at all about the OP's current living situation. She lives in a place where cost shouldn't be an issue but other things may be getting in the way. Thank you AngelikaJ for explaining this. We did not want to go into the specifics about why I was not currently seeing a proffessional. Money is not the issue as it is free for me with a doctors referance. It is another, private, matter that is stopping it and that private matter does have to deal with my living situation. As for all other, yes I realise that there have been some miscommunications and have angered a lot of people. I apologize to those I hurt. I am also hurting now and because I have been hurt, I am going to not look at this forum anymore. And just one more thing, littlewonder, you of all people should know...telling someone who is depressed to go get help is not always that easy and your whole "greater than thou" attitude will actually cause you to hurt people instead of help them. You may be worse off in some aspects, but you are not in my situation, and it not your place to snark at me for not getting help when it is clearly so easy for you to get help. It's not so easy for me.

BonesFromAsh -> RE: Punishment Spanking Then Massage (10/21/2010 3:31:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CollarSubGirl As for all other, yes I realise that there have been some miscommunications and have angered a lot of people. I apologize to those I hurt. I am also hurting now and because I have been hurt, I am going to not look at this forum anymore. The mistake was not on your part. You didn't come to this forum and post about your personal medical issue...your partner did. As far as I can see, you owe no one who has responded to you on this thread an apology. I'm sorry you're hurting, for whatever reason. I'm also sorry that you were unable to see the information that was posted was for your benefit and you've made a choice to disregard any opportunity of support this message board might have to offer. Good luck with wherever your path takes you.

strangedesire -> RE: Punishment Spanking Then Massage (10/21/2010 5:40:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: January quote: For anyone who wants to do behavior modification, having a good understanding of classical and operant conditioning are essential. No graduate degree in psych is needed. A little common sense, empathy and logic goes a long way. So does experience. Like the kind you get by raising happy, moral children. January Point taken. Plenty of wonderful parents manage to do this kind of thing with nothing but empathy and intuition. It's a skill - there's more than one way to learn it.

Iholdthestrings -> RE: Punishment Spanking Then Massage (10/22/2010 9:49:43 AM)
FR The OP referred to CollarSubGirl's "4 part journal entry", which I of course went to check out before responding. I found this part (posted 3 days before the question ever hit the boards) to to be particularly of note: quote: 10/14/2010 1:31:18 AM Edit Please note that the content of this journal is for you to decide if it's true, or if parts are just where I have let my creative "juices" flow That's about as seriously as I took it, although I have enjoyed the discussion about effective punishments and types thereof, and found it to be wholly enlightening.

sunshinemiss -> RE: Punishment Spanking Then Massage (10/24/2010 3:56:53 PM)
Hello IHTS, quote: ORIGINAL: Iholdthestrings FR The OP referred to CollarSubGirl's "4 part journal entry", which I of course went to check out before responding. I found this part (posted 3 days before the question ever hit the boards) to to be particularly of note: quote: 10/14/2010 1:31:18 AM Edit Please note that the content of this journal is for you to decide if it's true, or if parts are just where I have let my creative "juices" flow That's about as seriously as I took it, although I have enjoyed the discussion about effective punishments and types thereof, and found it to be wholly enlightening. Thank you for pointing this out. It seems we've been snookered. I for one am glad to hear that. I would hate to think that someone with this little amount of understanding of human relationships and the way people interact / think / behave would actually be allowed to be in charge of another person - particularly their mental health needs. That just was appalling to me. If it had been true, that poor girl could end up deeply harmed. Thank you for putting two and two together. I'm much relieved to know this was all just ... what was the term? creative juices flowing. *although I don't like being snookered. Meh. Somebody else might get some good from the thread at least. Best, sunshine

CollarSubGirl -> RE: Punishment Spanking Then Massage (10/24/2010 4:22:40 PM)
That was a mistake and wrong wording. I have removed that now because it was never ment to be used as evidence. Had it been evidence in a forum as such like this, we would not have put that on there. It was meant for people to ask questions to see what parts are true and what parts are exaggerated. When in fact, none of it was fake nor exaggerated. It is an acurate account of what happens because I am really a bad writer and the only things I can write are the truth. so if your so pissed at this mistake I am sorry. As it was said, the entry was posted 3 days before this thread started meaning it was not designed to be use as evidence. But for those still willing to believe me (obviously Sunshine and IHoldTheStrings, you've made up your mind so I know your too stubborn to try to believe the truth), the entry is very true and had I known when I posted the entry that the one little sentence would cause validity issues, i would not have posted it. Please forgice me for posting that and please believe that it was nothing more than a conversation starter for people to message me by. quote: ORIGINAL: Iholdthestrings FR The OP referred to CollarSubGirl's "4 part journal entry", which I of course went to check out before responding. I found this part (posted 3 days before the question ever hit the boards) to to be particularly of note: quote: 10/14/2010 1:31:18 AM Edit Please note that the content of this journal is for you to decide if it's true, or if parts are just where I have let my creative "juices" flow That's about as seriously as I took it, although I have enjoyed the discussion about effective punishments and types thereof, and found it to be wholly enlightening.

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