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RE: CPR Technique Updated - 11/12/2010 7:08:04 PM   
DesertSuperRat


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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Yeah, in the old days, before you commenced CPR, you had to lean over the person and say "Are you OK?  Are you OK?"  Now, with the updated procedures, you're required to say "Is you OK?  Is you OK?"


I believe the current protocol calls for "Dude! Yo DUDE!!!"

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RE: CPR Technique Updated - 11/12/2010 9:00:59 PM   
hausboy


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ORIGINAL: kiwisub12

I tend to think CPR outside of the hospital is a waste of time. I worked in an ER for 10 years , and in all that time, we had exactly ONE save - and he had leukemia. That is one person who actually walked out of the hospital after his arrest.

If you factor in the time and effort and money to save that one person, well, let me just say, i would rather the money went to vaccinating kids or providing discounted dental care for school aged kids.
Now, AED's are a great idea, hopefully they will help save more people than CPR ever did.



Kiwisub12--
I totally get where you're coming from....and in my 14 years as an EMS Provider, saves were very few and far between....and that was in a metropolitan city where an ambo was just 4-8 minutes away, and hospitals were rarely more than 10 minutes away...

and I would have probably agreed with you until recently.  A co-worker went down in the workplace--he seized...went into respiratory failure and then full cardiac arrest.  He was diaphoretic, pulseless and apneic (and a perfect shade of cardiac grey).  We started CPR--we applied the AED but his rhythm was not shockable (or at least, wasn't read as shockable--we still debate that one)  Anyhow, we sustained my colleague for the 10 minutes it took for the medics to arrive--once they arrived doorstep, it was a slow elevator trip upstairs and a long trek to where my colleague had collapsed.  By the time the medics got to his side, he had a very weak pulse.

I bagged him while they got a line started and they started cardiac pacing.  He was tubed, and sent to the cath lab.  Hours later, he was on a vent.  After about a week on the vent, he regained consciousness.  Months later, he's back at work with no neuro or motor deficit. We call him the "miracle man."

CPR (and the subsequent chain of survival) works for very, very few--often less than 5% of all cardiac arrests--but I can tell you that the friends, family and co-workers of that 5% will argue with you that CPR isn't bullshit.

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