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RE: You're Fired. Revisited. - 10/23/2010 6:44:56 AM   
rulemylife


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I looked at it. Didn't mean too much to me. It doesn't/can't separate out the votes of actual service members but instead looks only at the votes of the broader communities....
Also, of course, when soldiers are deployed to cambat many families leave those communities. Young wives move back to hometowns to have help with children, etc etc.

Seven of the 15 communities studied were in the deep south and presumably had both large Afro-American populations and huge black turnout.
Of the other 8, one was "insufficient data", two showed an increased Republican vote, one showed a D pickup of less than the national average, two were from the two arguably bluest states in the country......

The data is reaaalllly, professionally, cherrypicked, and doesn't even measure military votes.

Typical HuffnBlow spin, imo.


You mean as opposed to the accuracy and credibility of Breitbart?

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RE: You're Fired. Revisited. - 10/23/2010 8:11:54 AM   
truckinslave


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Status: offline 		I read the poll. Explained my specific analysis of it. Pretty much dimissed it as a result of that analysis, not as a result of where it was posted.
Do you want to offer an analysis of the television footage, or just bitch about where it was posted?
The former would be ever so much more interesting, I'm just sure.

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2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

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RE: You're Fired. Revisited. - 10/23/2010 10:23:47 AM   
AnimusRex


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Status: offline 		Yes, mm Hmm, liberal intolerance, a man fired for wearing a Bush shirt.

How tragic. Terrible. Was he arrested, though, like this woman who was arrested for simply wearing an anti-Bush shirt?

I have said it before, that as much as they posture as tough guy he men, conservatives sure are delicate flowers with thin skinned fee fees, always wanting to play the victim card.

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RE: You're Fired. Revisited. - 10/23/2010 10:59:41 AM   
truckinslave


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Status: offline 		"You are saying that firing a man for wearing a t-shirt with the name of an unpopular President on it isn't a violation of 1st Amendment rights.
And I agree."

Perhaps you missed the above. Victim card my not inconsiderable ass.
What's a fee fee??

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1. Islam and sharia are indivisible.
2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

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RE: You're Fired. Revisited. - 10/23/2010 4:05:54 PM   
rulemylife


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You are saying that firing a man for wearing a t-shirt with the name of an unpopular President on it isn't a violation of 1st Amendment rights.



Are you fucking kidding me?

This is from the poster that bragged about firing employees because they voted for Obama?

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RE: You're Fired. Revisited. - 10/23/2010 4:14:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: truckinslave

You are saying that firing a man for wearing a t-shirt with the name of an unpopular President on it isn't a violation of 1st Amendment rights.



Are you fucking kidding me?

This is from the poster that bragged about firing employees because they voted for Obama?



That's almost as bad as an Alan Grayson ad. Let me finish the quote, help you out.

"You are saying that firing a man for wearing a t-shirt with the name of an unpopular President on it isn't a violation of 1st Amendment rights.
And I agree."

And I agree. See? Changes thing, no? It's called reading comprehension, btw.



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1. Islam and sharia are indivisible.
2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

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RE: You're Fired. Revisited. - 10/23/2010 4:30:09 PM   
rulemylife


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Status: offline 		So let me understand.

You have posted a thread in which you implied there was some grave injustice being visited on this man by the Obama administration yet you agree with what they did?



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RE: You're Fired. Revisited. - 10/23/2010 4:33:58 PM   
switch2please


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Status: offline 		Agreed, while he's on the clock I'm sure there was some kind of dress code that was merely being enforced.
If I'd worn a Starbucks hat to my job at a local coffee shop, or a t-shirt supporting a different restaurant while waiting tables, my employers would have been absolutely within their rights to ask me to remove the hat or turn my shirt inside out, if not change it. I think sending him home with a warning would have been more appropriate, but I can't really disagree with the union's decision.

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RE: You're Fired. Revisited. - 10/23/2010 4:35:46 PM   
switch2please


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

So let me understand.

You have posted a thread in which you implied there was some grave injustice being visited on this man by the Obama administration yet you agree with what they did?





He was setting up for an Obama event, but he was hired - and fired from the job - by a union.

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RE: You're Fired. Revisited. - 10/23/2010 4:41:22 PM   
truckinslave


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I wondered if the libs who thought my actions were so terrible would be consistent.
Sadly, no, not so much.

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1. Islam and sharia are indivisible.
2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

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RE: You're Fired. Revisited. - 10/23/2010 4:58:21 PM   
rulemylife


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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

Seriously, dude, do you read the posts?
I wondered if the libs who thought my actions were so terrible would be consistent.
Sadly, no, not so much.


No. I think this is wrong as well.

My question was why you would highlight your own misjudgment by trying to justify it with this. 

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RE: You're Fired. Revisited. - 10/23/2010 4:59:31 PM   
rulemylife


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ORIGINAL: switch2please

quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife

So let me understand.

You have posted a thread in which you implied there was some grave injustice being visited on this man by the Obama administration yet you agree with what they did?





He was setting up for an Obama event, but he was hired - and fired from the job - by a union.



And your point is?

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RE: You're Fired. Revisited. - 10/23/2010 5:05:14 PM   
truckinslave


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No. I think this is wrong as well.

My question was why you would highlight your own misjudgment by trying to justify it with this.


I don't feel the need to justify much to anyone outside my family. Maybe reaffirming the legality of my actions. Just seeing what the reaction would be.
Congratulations on the consistency.

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1. Islam and sharia are indivisible.
2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

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RE: You're Fired. Revisited. - 10/23/2010 5:33:16 PM   
switch2please


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: switch2please

quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife

So let me understand.

You have posted a thread in which you implied there was some grave injustice being visited on this man by the Obama administration yet you agree with what they did?





He was setting up for an Obama event, but he was hired - and fired from the job - by a union.



And your point is?



Point: any injustice would not have been done by the Obama administration, but by a third party organization that was hired by the administration. Unless you have access to information that I haven't found - in which case, please share with the class so I can revise my opinion on the matter in light of new facts - the Obama administration was not directly involved.
Any violation of first amendment rights would have been committed by the union, connected only to the presidential administration by a simple business relationship. The union was trying to prevent any seeming hypocrisy on behalf of their client - and probably would have done the same for any other client, regardless of political affiliations.
You can't wear a Bud Light t-shirt to work at a Coors plant, you can't wear a Starbucks hat behind the counter at a local espresso joint, and you can't wear a Bush logo to set up for an Obama event.

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RE: You're Fired. Revisited. - 10/23/2010 6:12:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Holy crap you fired people for how they voted.......why do you hate our freedom?

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RE: You're Fired. Revisited. - 10/23/2010 6:57:27 PM   
truckinslave


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Status: offline 		I disapprove of those who work against freedom.
Like, say, 0bama0 and his minions.
I'm bidding on a couple contracts now, and may be hiring again later this year. I will do everything I can to keep from knowingly hiring a democrat.

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1. Islam and sharia are indivisible.
2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

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RE: You're Fired. Revisited. - 10/23/2010 7:54:55 PM   
Jeffff


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Status: offline 		Your actions were illegal. You are a complete and utter douche.

The Keanue Reeves avatar just reinforces that.

I truly feel sorry for you, your family and everyone who must interact with you in person.

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RE: You're Fired. Revisited. - 10/23/2010 11:41:29 PM   
switch2please


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Status: offline 		Slightly off topic but how did you get away with firing people for their voting choice without ramifications?
...and how do you intend to not hire democrats?

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RE: You're Fired. Revisited. - 10/23/2010 11:45:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

I disapprove of those who work against freedom.
Like, say, 0bama0 and his minions.
I'm bidding on a couple contracts now, and may be hiring again later this year. I will do everything I can to keep from knowingly hiring a democrat.


Im curious as to how you propose to determine the political affiliation of a potential employee.

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RE: You're Fired. Revisited. - 10/24/2010 6:19:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: switch2please

Slightly off topic but how did you get away with firing people for their voting choice without ramifications?
...and how do you intend to not hire democrats?


He didn't fire anyone.

Firing someone for how they voted is a slam dunk wrongful termination lawsuit. He'd have been sued into poverty.

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