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RE: Southernisms - 11/5/2010 7:22:10 PM   
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Yes, thank you LNT. We are non-professional herbalists who know our plants, after all. No hemlock or human was harmed in the making of this joke.


The issue isn't whether you know your local plants, it's whether someone from New York did. 



Not to debate semantics or derail an otherwise perfectly delightful thread, but the issue is the fact that no one on this end, and certainly not my Husband in particular, would ever have allowed the someone from New York to do anything like that to harm herself. Also, I have never been entirely certain that this was not simply another of my Husband's stories that he enjoys telling, i.e. a long-winded joke masquerading as an anecdote, or vice versa.
In the end, the issue becomes the fact that in neither case was concern or correction warranted.
You have a good evening, now, you hear..?

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RE: Southernisms - 11/6/2010 4:29:47 AM   
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Whew! I got a smidgin more of Suthriness left in me than I first thought.

Thank gunness.

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RE: Southernisms - 11/6/2010 6:01:41 AM   
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Hmmm, I learned at my Gran's knee (actually pulling the drawers out to form stairsteps so I could clime up on the counter and get involved) that there is a difference in a skillet and a frying pan. A skillet has sloped sides so you can get the spatula in to turn things like eggs. A frying pan is deeper and has straight sides so the oil heats evenly for frying up the chicken, rabbit, or squirrel.

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Southerners call it a skillet, other folks call it a frying pan.

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Southerners call it a skillet, other folks call it a frying pan.

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RE: Southernisms - 11/6/2010 6:20:13 AM   
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RE: Southernisms - 11/6/2010 6:41:37 AM   
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I think the use of Mamaw, or Papaw (meemaw and peepaw or even grandma, or grandpaw to some) as an honorific or epithed is a holdover from the Spanish colonial days in the dialect. It can be a term of respect to an elderly person who has survived to pass on wisdom or an epithen for that "ornery old coot". There are a lot of twists of phrase in Southern dialect that can be clear if you realize it comes from a mix of the languages of the Scots and Irish settlers mixing with the Spanish and French colonials with a seasoning of Choctaw, Cherokee, and Chickasaw.

Now I have a theory as to the origin of the Southern accent. When it come down to it, when the temperature and humidity are coming to the finish line, neck and neck, for a new guiness record; "Ya just cain't tawlk no faster"

Grits... are a side dish, a breakfast food, or something to put under a meat dish. If it could go with potatoes, it can go with grits. Google "Grits and Grillades" for a wonderful dinner entree. (Medalions of pork loin smothered in a tangy barbecue sauce served on a bed of fresh grits.) And try "fried grits" if you ever get a chance. You use the congealed leftover grits from breakfast with chopped onion and sweet peppers to make patties.. rather like a potato kuegel in the end product.

Now, a good sucker bet for the Northern transplants is getting water out of the air. If you put a good fluffy washcloth in the freezer overnight, and the humidity is above 95%, you can wave it around in the air outside and wring out a quarter cup of water. This is a good revenge for the high latitude Yankee sucker bet for not being able to pour a cup of hot coffee from shoulder height into a 3 foot diameter circle in the snow. (You have to have 30 below and a slight wind for this trick. The coffee will freeze and blow away before it hits the ground. It cost me $20 to learn that one.)

A true southerner knows the difference in a huckleberry and a blueberry (They don't in the Pacific Northwest. They call blueberries "huckleberries" when the actual huckleberry isn't even the same genus.)

A true southerner knows what a scupperong is and knows you do not put scuppernong wine in a metal or ceramic container or drink it with false teeth in. (purple dentures really do look hilarious. Also, scuppernong wine will really really really clean your system out. But, scuppernong jelly is to die for.)

I miss sassafras. Since they started using defoliants on rural dirt roadsides instead of trimming the wayside it is almost impossible to find in the wild.

If you ever hear the term "Spanish Coast" or "French Coast" it is an old old term for the Gulf Coast. East of the Pearl River was Spanish territory (Mobile, Pensacola, etc) and West of the Pearl River was French Territory (New Orleans, Lake Ponchartrain, Beumont, Lafayette)

Hominy... grits.... If you soak hard corn in a lye solution it puffs up. This is a chemical reaction that frees up nutrients that would otherwise be indigestible. This is the same method used to make masa flour for tortillas. If you eat simple ground corn (maize to be clear for the Euro-peeps reading) you miss all the vitamins you could be getting and run the risk of a deficiency disease called "Pelligra". Wheat doesn't grow well in a southern climate and corn was the staple grain until cheap transportation made wheat flour readily available. You ate either grits or oatmeal every day or ran the risk of getting the Pelligra. Also, a lye soak is a very good easy way to make easily storable hard shell corn edible without having to spend a lot of time grinding.

I grew up in a part of the south were Edinburgh, Bremen, and Moscow were within ten miles of each other. I find it interesting to look at the local dialects, family names, and place names that originated in the immigrant influx in the 1830s. And I marvel at how much history is left behind when the inhabitants don't know why their towns were named things like DeKalb and Kosciusko. My own ancestry traces back to a land grant given in the "Mississippi Territory" in lieu of back pay from the War of 1812. All that remains of that land grant is a rather large cemetary bearing the family name with grave markers dateing back to 1815.

I've rambled enough, I'll quit boring everyone....

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RE: Southernisms - 11/6/2010 7:15:14 AM   
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A gentleman from NY called my office yesterday and said that he was amazed at how folks, esp. women, in the South can sometimes turn up the charm on the phone just by letting their accent get more pronounced.  I had to smile and said, "Of course... the more we want something that we're not likely to get, the more we smile into the phone, which increases the Southern accent... which (hopefully) will get us what we want." 

I usually speak without much accent at all.  However, I am keenly aware that as I get tired or relaxed, the more my Southren pops out.  But, my Southren-speak (y'all, all y'all, etc.) is always used with or without "slack-jaw" pronunciation. 

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RE: Southernisms - 11/6/2010 1:11:27 PM   
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I have to admit that I melt for Boston and New York City accents (no, I'm not from either city, nor have I lived in either), Though Washington, DC is the southernmost city in which I've ever really lived, I did go to college in the South. Forget the accent, the Southern turn of phrase can sometimes be classic! My (then) boyfriend and I were on some back roads and came across a car in the ditch w/ two men in the process of crawling out of the car. Neither was hurt, and when we asked one what happened, he said, "I don't know. I was in the seat, laid back like a dead fly and next thing I know, here I was." Laid back like a dead fly? My former BF and I still quote that to each other in Xmas and birthday cards. Another time, I was complaining about a certain group of people in our dorm to my roommate, and she said, "Well, you know, you can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit." Classic!


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RE: Southernisms - 11/7/2010 6:27:14 AM   
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"You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear"....

But you can make a rather odd chastity belt.

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RE: Southernisms - 11/8/2010 8:22:38 AM   
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*giggles at peaceful's story*

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RE: Southernisms - 11/8/2010 12:25:58 PM   
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To those of you who are still a little embarrassed by your Southerness: Take two tent revivals and a dose of sausage gravy and call me in the morning. Bless your heart!
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I think "Southerness" is hot!


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RE: Southernisms - 11/8/2010 4:09:35 PM   
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I think "Southerness" is hot!


Such a "smaht mayun"... 

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RE: Southernisms - 11/8/2010 4:33:32 PM   
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I had a friend who was like that - Jessie.  He could turn a phrase like a model on a runway.  Listening to him talk was like a funfest even if he was just telling you about his breakfast - "I was so hungry I would have eaten the asshole of a skunk".... Yes, he actually said that once. 

He told the story of being in a Hallmark store where they had a bunch of creches displayed - it was Christmas time obviously.  He accidently bumped into the display, and they all went flying.  It was so memorable!  He stood there, hands on his face, a look of horror and was yelling,"I'm going to hell.  I keelled liddle baybeh Jeesus. I keelled liddle baybeh Jeesus."

He died of AIDS many years ago, but he lives on in memory.  May we all be the person others smile about about once we pass on.

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RE: Southernisms - 11/12/2010 12:57:48 AM   
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im just going to spend an hour or so laughing my ass off, ok?

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RE: Southernisms - 11/12/2010 6:26:10 PM   
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The true mark of a southern accent has to be emphasizing a word by stretching it out....

"Dang, ain't she sooooo sweeeeeet"

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RE: Southernisms - 11/13/2010 1:16:41 AM   
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Grandma was old south. And her name was 'Mamadear'. This name was never, under any circumstance, two words.

Gramps was 'Old Dad'. Or "Ol' Dad".

Meanwhile, my more New Yorkerly grandparents were "Grandpop" and "Grandma." The last p is pronounced. Made it easy to distinguish the four of them, really.


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RE: Southernisms - 11/14/2010 8:46:32 PM   
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I love how we use the respectful terms of "Miss" or "Mister" in front of an older adult's name.  My kids know better than to call a grown person by their first name if they want to see the light of day again.  We don't use last names like a lot of folks I know from up north do.  We don't call people "Miss Smith" and such... no, it's "Miss Sally" or "Mister Bob." 

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RE: Southernisms - 11/16/2010 7:19:33 PM   
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I saw this video on another site and it shows Bill Cosby interviewing a genteel Southern woman from North, South Carolina.

(Which is 90 miles south of Due West.)
clicky here, y'all.

grrr typos....



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RE: Southernisms - 11/16/2010 7:46:46 PM   
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ROFL!!!!!!  Oh, Kitty, that was wonderful!  The nice/sad/??? thing is that I totally understood everything she was saying and where she was going with the conversation.  Bless her heart (in the sweetest way, and I mean that), she's just what we call a "darlin' "... innocent and all. 

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