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RE: A Warning to Republicans and Conservatives ... - 11/12/2010 10:14:19 PM   
Charles6682


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Status: offline 		The reason why Sue Collin's and Olympia Snow are not neo-conservative is because the state their from is a progressive state.This is something the Republican's need to understand.The Northeast in general fairly progressive.In order for Republican's to win there,they need to meet someone in the middle.Scott Brown is a perfect example.MA is not going to vote for someone like Rand Paul,but they will vote for a Scott Brown.... I think the Republican's to be more accepting of people.They can just rely only on the neo-conservative,tea party or Holy Roller's for their vote.I suspect there are alot of Moderate's who would vote for the Republican's but get turned off by the far right extreme part of the party.It was the "Log Cabin" Republican's that are fighting for the 'Don't ask,Don't tell" law lifted.Yet it's the far right Republican's who are saying no... Define what a conservative is suppose to mean these day's?Is it truly less government,lower taxe's,more personal freedom? Or is being conservative meant to be meant only for the holy roller's?

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RE: A Warning to Republicans and Conservatives ... - 11/12/2010 10:41:10 PM   
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RE: A Warning to Republicans and Conservatives ... - 11/13/2010 6:05:57 AM   
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Susan Collins and Olympia Snow ? No way in hell. These two are hated by conservatives and wouldn't stand a chance.

This is a major reason why Obama has a lock on a second term. Anyone acceptable to present republican primary voters is doomed in the general election.

Just look at the recent Senate campaigns to see.

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RE: A Warning to Republicans and Conservatives ... - 11/13/2010 6:36:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		The tea party screwed up in at least 2 states (Nevada and Delaware), and supported someone too conservative for those states. Any state who would keep reelecting Reid, and Biden are obviously so brain damaged, that they would never put a true conservative in office there. Do you realize that these recent deficit panel recommendations were soundly rejected by the democrats, and met with a response on how to get more money to spend, not less. They actually want to put another 15% tax on gasoline now, and don't forget the 1% financial transaction tax they would love to pass.

However, since politics is an unpredictable business, overall the Tea Party movement has been an overwhelming success. If they learn from this mistake, there will be no stopping us in 2012.

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RE: A Warning to Republicans and Conservatives ... - 11/13/2010 6:57:09 AM   
domiguy


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Did you read the garbage wilbur wrote? The economy will improve....No thanks to the GOP or any other party....It will improve because of the Green party....lol


Is there anyone as simple as Wilbur?

This last election was not about a President that was unable to lead. It was about the economy. End of story.

If you look at the numbers, people want healthcare reform. It's coming.

When the next Presidential election occurs the economy will have improved.

The GOP is going to have to reconcile between electing a President and it's wild right wing tea baggers and hard core conservatives. Please Sara, run.


Another person without a grip on reality stated, "Tea Party movement has been an overwhelming success. That is not a truthful statement. They will be further marginalized as the economy improves.

Obama will have a second term. I am rarely wrong.

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RE: A Warning to Republicans and Conservatives ... - 11/13/2010 7:19:35 AM   
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I am rarely wrong.


You claim that quite often here.

Pity it doesn't hold true.

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RE: A Warning to Republicans and Conservatives ... - 11/13/2010 7:30:01 AM   
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Obama may win or lose depending on who is running on the Republican ticket.While I will admit Sarah Palin has certainly a huge fan base behind her,the reality is she probaly wouldn't win.Try someone like Mitt Romney,maybe even Susan Collin's or Olympia Snowe from Maine.


ROFL. The most recent similar advice from the left was that the GOP would only have a chance in the midterms if they moved to the left.

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RE: A Warning to Republicans and Conservatives ... - 11/13/2010 7:40:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Susan Collins and Olympia Snow ? No way in hell. These two are hated by conservatives and wouldn't stand a chance.

This is a major reason why Obama has a lock on a second term. Anyone acceptable to present republican primary voters is doomed in the general election.

Just look at the recent Senate campaigns to see.


the Senate campaigns where the GOP picked up 6 seats and the DNP none? Where 2 "unelectable candidates" made runs in deep blue states and succeeded in forcing their opponents to the right? Where Obama was unwelcome anywhere where he could have made a difference?

Is it sand or shit you have to clean out of your ears once your remove your head from where it is?

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RE: A Warning to Republicans and Conservatives ... - 11/13/2010 7:42:01 AM   
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The tea party screwed up in at least 2 states (Nevada and Delaware), and supported someone too conservative for those states.


Too looney, actually.

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RE: A Warning to Republicans and Conservatives ... - 11/13/2010 7:51:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		Does the name Marco Rubio ring a bell...this guy will be magic and the groundswell behind him will be a tidal wave.... hide and watch your broken Obama dreams get washed out to sea by a new psuami about to rise....this guy is real and has a story that no one else can touch...and the socialist worst nightmare..... already the bumber stickers are all over Florida... a new star is born.... Rubio will be drafted into the campaign by the Tea Party movement as he has EXACTLY the right message.... its gonna be fun watching Chris Matthews and the lame ass dems melt down.... a new birth of freedom is about to errupt like Mount St Helens!

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RE: A Warning to Republicans and Conservatives ... - 11/13/2010 8:35:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DomKen

This is a major reason why Obama has a lock on a second term. Anyone acceptable to present republican primary voters is doomed in the general election.

Just look at the recent Senate campaigns to see.



You mean Tea Party favorites like Rand Paul and Marco Rubio, Ken? How doomed were they in the general?


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RE: A Warning to Republicans and Conservatives ... - 11/13/2010 8:40:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		Not agreeing with Ken's overall position, but come on Rich--he's obviously talking about the nation, while you're looking at state/districts.

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RE: A Warning to Republicans and Conservatives ... - 11/13/2010 8:57:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		No, Muse, I'm calling bullshit on a bullshitter. Ken wants to continue the liberal line that the Tea Party, and the growing number of people identifying themselves as "conservative" are a bunch of extremist, unelectable kooks, and I'm not going to let that stand. If you don't want to get in bed with him, then get out of the way.

Besides, aren't you the one who keeps saying all politics is local?

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RE: A Warning to Republicans and Conservatives ... - 11/13/2010 9:02:49 AM   
Musicmystery


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Enjoy your day being an ass.

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RE: A Warning to Republicans and Conservatives ... - 11/13/2010 9:05:26 AM   
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RE: A Warning to Republicans and Conservatives ... - 11/13/2010 12:26:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic


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This is a major reason why Obama has a lock on a second term. Anyone acceptable to present republican primary voters is doomed in the general election.

Just look at the recent Senate campaigns to see.



You mean Tea Party favorites like Rand Paul and Marco Rubio, Ken? How doomed were they in the general?


Actually I meant tea party favorites Christine O'Donnell, Joe Miller, Ken Buck and Sharon Angle as well as standard issue GOP nuts Carly Fiorina, Linda Mcmahon, John Raese and Dino Rossi.

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RE: A Warning to Republicans and Conservatives ... - 11/13/2010 1:22:34 PM   
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Boy, Obama really "impressed" the Indians and Asians, didn't he?
He's an awful president!

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RE: A Warning to Republicans and Conservatives ... - 11/13/2010 3:07:35 PM   
Musicmystery


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Then the entire world would have said, "You know, fuck our own interests, let's just do what the Americans want. They seem so nice."


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RE: A Warning to Republicans and Conservatives ... - 11/13/2010 3:44:09 PM   
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He's an awful president!


Which is a self-fulfilling prophecy since you decided that long before he was ever elected.

Let's face reality, no matter what he does or does not do you will find a way to criticize it.

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RE: A Warning to Republicans and Conservatives ... - 11/13/2010 3:47:53 PM   
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