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RE: 3 month suspended sentence for breaching Geneva Con... - 12/2/2010 12:32:21 AM   
luckydawg


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so you lie and duck questions. real solid base you have built your position on.

Oh yeah and quoting a report while ignoring questions about its author.

Of course you will not respond to the fact that it is HAMAS deploying missles from Civilian areas, NOT ISREAL. Your ally Hertz posted a map showing that most OF GAZA is NOT URBAN. Yet your allies (who stay in power through violence of thier own peoiple) use the uban areas for operations.

That is using Civilians as Humn shields.

And you and The UNHRC and Goldstone support that.

Vermin.

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RE: 3 month suspended sentence for breaching Geneva Con... - 12/2/2010 12:53:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras

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Say it all you want, Anaxagoras - the numbers tell a very different story.


Here we go again - I guess I'll have to repeat myself. The numbers say one thing that 700 Hamas militants were killed. As stated repeatedly above Hamad said those killed at the police stations were also Hamas rather than civilians of security services which he categorised differently. A number of combatants from other terrorist groups were also killed which are probably amongst the 100+ death that could not be identified as either civilian or combatant. That means that amongst the death toll significantly more than half of all combatants were combatants.


No. I've already explained why, at least twice now, so I am not going to explain it again.

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Such a low civilian death rate, as tragic as it is could only be possible in densely populated areas with an army that takes immense care. Citing injuries as Hertz has done is an absurdity since many instances of injury do not occur as a result of targetting. He also pretends all that are injured are automatically civilian.


Again, no. I have already explained this, and I am not going to explain it again.

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RE: 3 month suspended sentence for breaching Geneva Con... - 12/2/2010 1:05:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: luckydawg

Israel has participated in Many Diplomatic initiatives, including pulling out of Golan, Sianai, Southern Lebanon, and GAZA. All were then used as missle launching bases.


Israel continues to occupy Gaza by virtue of its control of Gazas borders.


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I am sorry that you support Human shields and Praise Hamas for using them. It garuntees that more civilians will be killed there. But that is what you want and support.


Unjustified accusation.


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What you are not grasping is that Hamas is choosing to deploy artilery from urban areas. Not Isreal. You support and justify it.


What you are not grasping is that Israel is choosing to use White Phosphorus, DIME munitions, Flechettes, High Explosives and all manner of other high technology weaponry against civilians.

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For no reason other than a desire to see Dead Palestinians.


Fixed.




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RE: 3 month suspended sentence for breaching Geneva Con... - 12/2/2010 1:23:49 AM   
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No, IF Israel wanted to slaughter Civilians they could. The weopons you cite are targetted at fighters, who are using civilians as shields.

You approve of that.

As well as approve of Hamas controll over Gaza. through extra judicial violence against Palestinain civilians.

You call that democratic don't you?


I get that you feel Hamas has the right to use Gaza as a war base.

And Hezbollah has the right to use Lebanon as a Fire base.

And you do not give a fuck about the lives of the people who live there.

But pretend you do out of Hatred for Jews.

Really sick world you live in.

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RE: 3 month suspended sentence for breaching Geneva Con... - 12/2/2010 1:58:20 AM   
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I'm going to put you on ignore for your own good. 

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RE: 3 month suspended sentence for breaching Geneva Con... - 12/2/2010 2:12:05 AM   
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sure, you do that. for my own good.

lol


Since you are incapable of reponding to the factuall things I have pointed out, thats probably best for you.

That way you can pretend you are correct, without being challenged.

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RE: 3 month suspended sentence for breaching Geneva Con... - 12/2/2010 8:31:51 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: hertz

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras

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ORIGINAL: hertz

Say it all you want, Anaxagoras - the numbers tell a very different story.


Here we go again - I guess I'll have to repeat myself. The numbers say one thing that 700 Hamas militants were killed. As stated repeatedly above Hamad said those killed at the police stations were also Hamas rather than civilians of security services which he categorised differently. A number of combatants from other terrorist groups were also killed which are probably amongst the 100+ death that could not be identified as either civilian or combatant. That means that amongst the death toll significantly more than half of all combatants were combatants.


No. I've already explained why, at least twice now, so I am not going to explain it again.

Hertz you are pretty much repeating your old tactic of simply saying I didn't get the point. In your previous posts you did two things to dismiss the civilian to combatant ratio. You tried to misrepresent some of the Hamas operatives as merely ordinary police when in fact Hamad did not describe them as such and there is ample evidence such as a selection of ten named individuals as cited in the link on post 119. Secondly, you tried to include injuries in the ratios which is a nonsense. You acted as if all those injured were civilians and there is no qualification if they are serious or minor injuries. Furthermore injuries have no direct connection with targeting which was your principal claim previously and you stated that such figures were not accurate in post 91. Then you tried to misrepresent the position of people like me and NJ20 by trying to say we were suggesting that no civilians were ever targeted, to which my reply was that individual soldiers may have targeted civilians but the civilian to combatant figures which are the lowest in the world by a very considerable margin demonstrate that the IDF as a matter of policy minimise civilian death tolls and even place it above the importance of military success by giving prior warning.

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Such a low civilian death rate, as tragic as it is could only be possible in densely populated areas with an army that takes immense care. Citing injuries as Hertz has done is an absurdity since many instances of injury do not occur as a result of targetting. He also pretends all that are injured are automatically civilian.

Again, no. I have already explained this, and I am not going to explain it again.


A repeat of your "you miss the point" strategy redux when all else fails.

< Message edited by Anaxagoras -- 12/2/2010 8:33:10 AM >

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