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SpallaTorri -> 24/7/365 (11/28/2010 6:14:57 PM)

I am interested in a lot of different kinks, but what I am most interested in is the concept of being a lifestyle slave. To serve one sexually, physically, in all aspects. It's... Exciting to think about. I was wondering, is it uncommon? I would like to be realistic here, and keep my hopes to a minimum, so if someone could, please enlighten me.




DarkSteven -> RE: 24/7/365 (11/28/2010 7:14:40 PM)

Hi there!

Unfortunately, a lot of this thread is going to be devoted to arguing over your terms.  I'll start.  [:)]

24/7/365 is the term you use, but I think you mean TPE - Total Power Exchange.  You (in theory at least) have no rights, and are completely the property of a Domme.

It's not the most common lifestyle relationship, but who cares?  If you want it and your future Domme want it, its commonality means nothing.

That said, I'd recommend easing into that relationship.  Start off D/s, and make it deeper and more intense as you two work the relationship over time.




SpallaTorri -> RE: 24/7/365 (11/28/2010 7:23:19 PM)

Total Power Exchange... I'll go read up on that. And thank you, I will be sure to keep that in mind. ^^ Glad to know it is not hopeless. I want to ease into it, and get as much experience as I can before I actually dedicate myself to that lifestyle, and when I do it would be with someone who I have had experiences with and trust. Call me a helpless romantic I guess..




mwdsub4u -> RE: 24/7/365 (11/28/2010 7:29:08 PM)

hi, i am not a Mistress, i am a bi-m slave, You seem to be asking for a lot! forget sex, you are a slave, like me, She can have anyone She wants.
you are young how much real time experince do you have?

thing about this are you willing to give up everything you own, anything that will come to you, like family money? or your own all that you have worked for She owns.
no rights girlfriends or anything She will not approve of.
think about this, it can happen.




SpallaTorri -> RE: 24/7/365 (11/28/2010 7:41:48 PM)

I have no real life experience, I just turned 18 a month or so ago. I said it is what I want someday, not that I want to rush into it like *snaps finger* that. But yes, that sounds like what I want. If I were to become such I would lose all Independence, I would become an object for her to use as she sees fit. Objects can not own other objects, so naturally any and all of my possessions would go through her, I have what she wants me to have. I do what she wants and does not do what she does not want me to. I dedicate myself to her, completely. I am just an upstart, not even that, I know that.




footsub90 -> RE: 24/7/365 (11/28/2010 11:35:31 PM)

Sounds like a fantasy people say before really thinking about it. Especially if the person in charge doesn't actually care about you, they can create quite a bit of damage.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: 24/7/365 (11/29/2010 12:22:38 AM)

Okay, here's the thing. You are an adult legally, but are you an independent person? Are you able to hold down a proper job, handle finances, be a MAN? A slave is not a mindless bot sitting around awaiting orders. If you want to be a person attractive as a slave, make yourself into a solid person. Get to know who you are and what you want out of life. By all means, get involved in your local bdsm scene, have fun, and experiment, but don't let a fantasy you barely understand be the mask you wear.




SpallaTorri -> RE: 24/7/365 (11/29/2010 6:16:14 AM)

I can hold down a job, I currently have a steady stream of income, I'm ok with finances, and yes, I can be a man. Solid person? Not even close xD Know what I want out of life? Not exactly. Still learning, looking for a good scene to get involved with, and the main reason I am here is to experiment. As I said, I have no intention of making such a commitment anytime soon. It is just something that right now, would be something I think I would enjoy. Whether or nit I actually will is gonna be up to me, I still have a lot of learning and growing to go.




SthrnCom4t -> RE: 24/7/365 (11/29/2010 8:18:13 AM)

OP, I appreciate your honesty about not knowing what you don't know. That's a healthy outlook :) As part of your journey, it's a good idea to understand yourself and your motivations. I say this because many people claim they are X, but in reality, they aren't quite there. In such cases, it is up to you to observe said person, and make your own determination of whether they are who/what they say. This is very important, given the situation that is attractive to you.

Even as a submissive/slave personality, the reality is, you will be making choices every day to achieve and maintain such a position. There are very few Women (none that I know of actually, but I am not ALL-KNOWING) who are looking for a slave they need to FORCE (keep in a cage/chains, etc) on a minute by minute basis.

Therefore, your slavery will be bound by your word and your honor. This is all well and good as long as things are going the way you want, and your needs (as you define) are getting met. Our natural instinct, when we are not getting our needs met, get fearful, etc, is to remove ourselves from such a situation. It's called 'survival instinct'.

The better you know yourself, the less fear you experience, the more stable and suitable you are, for dedicating your life to the pleasures of Another.

Find out what makes an ideal slave (you will get MANY answers) and strive to achieve those traits. Among the various answers, you will be able to start to define what type of Owner you would be most satisfied being in a relationship with. This will help you formulate a concept of the type of Person you want to serve.

TPE is not a complete fantasy - depending on the definitions you subscribe to it. In reality, it is two (or more) people, dedicated to a particular relationship dynamic, who both choose (daily) to work toward that dynamic, even when it means not getting exactly what they want, all the time. It takes time, dedication, energy and focus.

One last thing - as you learn and discover, your perspective will change. Maybe a little, maybe a lot, it's part of your self growth and evolution. Be open to changing and growing, and do not confine yourself to any particular structure if it no longer suits you.





SpallaTorri -> RE: 24/7/365 (11/29/2010 11:47:33 AM)

Thank you, I will keep that in mind.




MasterFireMaam -> RE: 24/7/365 (11/29/2010 1:14:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: footsub90

Sounds like a fantasy people say before really thinking about it.


It may sound that way to you, but it is indeed a reality for some of us.


To the OP: Have fun first. Figure out what is and isn't important. THEN, if you still feel the same way, look for a relationship. This is how it works in the vanilla world and this is how it works here, too.

Master Fire




MarcEsadrian -> RE: 24/7/365 (11/29/2010 2:18:41 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: SpallaTorri

I am interested in a lot of different kinks, but what I am most interested in is the concept of being a lifestyle slave. To serve one sexually, physically, in all aspects. It's... Exciting to think about. I was wondering, is it uncommon? I would like to be realistic here, and keep my hopes to a minimum, so if someone could, please enlighten me.


It is exciting to think about, but take on as a reality? It's only rousing for a select few from that point on. So to answer your question, yes, slavery that goes beyond sensual metaphor and into everyday life is uncommon, to say the least. If you truly wish to serve as a slave, however, half the task (and in my experience the more difficult half) is complete, for those cut out for no bs consensual slavery are very, very rare birds—no matter what fixed "supply and demand" theories bandied about by femdom rhetoric asserts. Then of course comes the search for a worthy, capable and compatible Mistress, which in and of itself is no small task, either. There are many women who would accept a fawning, ass kissing slave of a man in an instant, but as with Masters, very few who really know how to keep a slave. The challenge, therefore, is twofold, but not impossible to overcome.




MaamJay -> RE: 24/7/365 (11/30/2010 4:44:52 PM)

The other thing to consider Spalla, is that for some Dommes, a man can still be a 24/7/365 slave as well as holding down a job. Because by doing so he is contributing in a useful way to the household, far more usefully than if he was chained in a cage waiting to be let out when the Domme has time to use him! Especially if She's the one holding down the job to support the household, She won't have much free time! And for him to work doesn't really mean a reduction in control for Her, at least not if She's fully cognisant of the demands of the job.

So as you learn and grow, keep an open mind as to how your TPE might look in the practicalities of the everyday world of real life. It really is something best worked out between the 2 people who want to enter into it as a relationship, so everyone's tends to look slightly different.

Good luck little one, for 18 you have started well with an honest and open-minded approach. Enjoy your growth journey!

Maam Jay aka violet[A]




SlaveSubtoserve -> RE: 24/7/365 (1/8/2011 4:38:28 PM)

the financial aspects of this are flexible depending on the Owner's preference as its not set in some stone that you will be penniless yourself, etc.




DarkSteven -> RE: 24/7/365 (1/8/2011 4:43:35 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SthrnCom4t

OP, I appreciate your honesty about not knowing what you don't know. That's a healthy outlook :) As part of your journey, it's a good idea to understand yourself and your motivations. I say this because many people claim they are X, but in reality, they aren't quite there. In such cases, it is up to you to observe said person, and make your own determination of whether they are who/what they say. This is very important, given the situation that is attractive to you.



I'm in complete agreement.  The OP has impressed me thus far.  He's found a fantasy he's attracted to.  Instead of fishing for wank material, he's using us for basic research and is willing to learn more.  He's approaching this with a level head and a desire to find out how to make things work.




MaxsGirl -> RE: 24/7/365 (1/8/2011 8:45:53 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam

quote:

ORIGINAL: footsub90

Sounds like a fantasy people say before really thinking about it.


It may sound that way to you, but it is indeed a reality for some of us.



True, but the fantasy and reality of 24/7 are very different.  I have known for a long time (since I was younger than the OP) that I wanted to be a 24/7 slave, but even after all that time and a lot of BDSM experience, the reality of being a slave still surprises me and puts me in some pretty complex emotional situations.  It's not something I'd recommend to anyone - in fact, I actively discourage people from entering into this kind of life.  You need a solid understanding of yourself and your motivation for being a slave, a deeply commited  and respectful (both ways) relationship with your owner, an open flow of communication, and the strength to see it through.  It's a tall order, and can be a difficult, mind-numbing, and sometimes painful life.  That said, I find it infinitely rewarding.  But again, having fantasies about being a 24/7 slave and actually doing it are two totally different things, and I certainly wouldn't disparage anyone who tries it and finds that it isn't for them.  I think it isn't for most people.




CherryNeko -> RE: 24/7/365 (1/8/2011 11:12:17 PM)

Just a sidenote.
If after you've gathered enough information, you still find it fascinating, you can start by 24/7, x number of days, weeks, or months. It would be helpful to realize if it is what you really want. Please be sure to talk everything out with your D (like rights, privileges, obligations, schedule, etc) before you two engage in activities.




LadyNTrainer -> RE: 24/7/365 (1/8/2011 11:50:08 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SpallaTorri
I am interested in a lot of different kinks, but what I am most interested in is the concept of being a lifestyle slave. To serve one sexually, physically, in all aspects. It's... Exciting to think about. I was wondering, is it uncommon? I would like to be realistic here, and keep my hopes to a minimum, so if someone could, please enlighten me.


In the sense of people who keep their partners chained in the basement 24/7 and flog them every day and twice on Sundays, you're right, that is pretty rare/unrealistic.  Real world constraints on time and energy, things like family obligations, jobs, children, community and social involvement, vanilla hobbies, etc, mean that very few people are hopping around like bunnies having any form of sex 24 hours a day.  Kinky sex isn't an exception.

In the sense of deep and loving D/s and M/s relationships where the dynamic is 24/7, hell yeah, there's a lot of those in the scene.  I'm in one; I own two beautiful men who make me very proud to have them in collar.  We're committed long term partners and a poly family as well as an Owner/slave dynamic.  A lot of our life looks pretty boringly vanilla though.  I'm not screaming orders and beating people all the time.  They're not chained in the basement all the time.  We have a life, and it's a good one.  We laugh a lot together.  We love each other.  We have family nights.  We watch geeky movies and play D&D.  And there is never any question about whom they serve or who their Owner is. 

So if this is what you mean by 24/7, then yes, it's realistic.  If what you meant was "do people really act like they do in stereotyped bad femdom porn movies all the time", the answer is no.  That stuff is fun for a hot scene, but living that way isn't realistic mainly because it takes too freakin' much energy and isn't practical.  There's a lot of D/s you can incorporate into daily life that can be meaningful and wonderful in a D/s relationship, but don't expect it to be the all kinky sex channel all the time, or you will be disappointed.  And stuff that is likely to cause logistical problems with having a life, a job, a family, healthy outside social relationships, etc, is probably best left in the realm of fantasy or of occasional play rather than trying to do all the time.

But hey, I hear you're not a REAL femdom if you don't dress in latex and leather and high heels all the time and beat the bank teller with a riding crop if they're too slow to make your deposit.  Also, you will lose your Real Femdom Card (TM) if you ever treat your slaves like human beings who are in a committed long term relationship with you and actually talk to them and stuff.  So what do I know.  Clearly by these standards I'm not a REAL dominant.

But real means something very different to me.  It doesn't mean being terribly flashy, or having the latest dungeon toys and wardrobe, or boasting and swaggering.  The folks who do that all the time usually find that by-and-by, their relationships break their mainsprings and pass away. I'll let an old friend of mine who is much wiser than me explain what Real is.   

quote:

The Skin Horse had lived longer in the nursery than any of the others. He was so old that his brown coat was bald in patches and showed the seams underneath, and most of the hairs in his tail had been pulled out to string bead necklaces. He was wise, for he had seen a long succession of mechanical toys arrive to boast and swagger, and by-and-by break their mainsprings and pass away, and he knew that they were only toys, and would never turn into anything else. For nursery magic is very strange and wonderful, and only those playthings that are old and wise and experienced like the Skin Horse understand all about it.

"What is REAL?" asked the Rabbit one day, when they were lying side by side near the nursery fender, before Nana came to tidy the room. "Does it mean having things that buzz inside you and a stick-out handle?"

"Real isn't how you are made," said the Skin Horse. "It's a thing that happens to you. When a child loves you for a long, long time, not just to play with, but REALLY loves you, then you become Real."

"Does it hurt?" asked the Rabbit.

"Sometimes," said the Skin Horse, for he was always truthful. "When you are Real you don't mind being hurt."

"Does it happen all at once, like being wound up," he asked, "or bit by bit?"

"It doesn't happen all at once," said the Skin Horse. "You become. It takes a long time. That's why it doesn't happen often to people who break easily, or have sharp edges, or who have to be carefully kept. Generally, by the time you are Real, most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all, because once you are Real you can't be ugly, except to people who don't understand."




kalikshama -> RE: 24/7/365 (1/9/2011 3:46:48 AM)

Awws, Velveteen Rabbit!

*sniff, sniff*




GreedyTop -> RE: 24/7/365 (1/9/2011 3:49:39 AM)

~FR~

I like the OP .... can we keep him?




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