RE: sub/slave's colour, race and/or ethnisticity??

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MsMacComb -> RE: sub/slave's colour, race and/or ethnisticity?? (4/30/2006 8:02:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OnyxGoddess Oh and MsMac-I agree with you about the cuckold situation (white guy, white woman, black stud) is demeaning to all. I looked for a million and one sites with black women cuckolding and couldn't find many at all. The other interesting thing is that on sites or forums that focus on cuckoldry its rare to see a black man posting there either. Its like this whole sub culture on the web thats based solely on white mens fantasies.

Reasonable -> RE: sub/slave's colour, race and/or ethnisticity?? (4/30/2006 8:02:10 PM)
I think it all ultimately comes down to ability, and degree of baggage to me. Everything else takes a back seat to that.

OnyxGoddess -> RE: sub/slave's colour, race and/or ethnisticity?? (4/30/2006 8:36:12 PM)
[/quote]I disagree! In my conversations and experience, African Americans/Blacks are generally more conservative sexually... I regret I am replying to a stereotype though. M [/quote] Ah but that is YOUR experience not MINE or many of the other folks I speak with. And regrettably you're not responding to a stereotype but more of an opinion and opinions are like assholes we all have one. And the facts YOU have read are not the facts that I have read nor from the same sources. Funny thing about truth-it's skewed by PERCEPTIONS. But I'm done with this. Bottom line race means nothing to me. END OF STORY. If you're a cool person with great personality and a good sense of humor you're A-OK in my book. The rest can just suck it.

BlkTallFullfig -> RE: sub/slave's colour, race and/or ethnisticity?? (4/30/2006 8:40:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NeedToUseYou As an example the whole gangsta rap thing, I just don't get at all, and the group that plays into that the most is black people, to a lesser degree whites I think you're just trying to get my attention by acting less than well informed. Poor black youth have discovered a way to get rich by giving you what you want, sex and violence, mixed with a little taboo of the lustful black woman already in your head. Did you read my post above http://poplicks.com/2005/06/who-buys-hip-hop.html quote: "fact" that "70% of hip-hop consumers are white." 2) It's "proof" that if hip-hop has gone to hell in a handbasket, it's not because the Black youth community has decided to embrace sex, drugs, violence and general nihilism, it's because that's what voyeuristic white kids want and since white kids are the main consumer demographic, record labels push their albums to fill that consumer desire. this argument has been used to explain why conscious rap is dead, dead, dead and why pimps, players and hustlers have become the new norm quote: NeedtoUseYou It has nothing to do with anything other than the dress in the "scene" the general attitude, and language displayed is not attractive to me. Listening to it is one thing but applying it to everything in your life is another. So, the color doesn't matter, but it's how the person acts that is important. Acting in the Hip-Hop/ Rap ghetto style will simply repulse me right from the beginning. And, hot, is hot, is hot, no matter what color the woman is, but acting a way I find unattractive is killer for me, no matter how attractive. Hmmmmm, waiting for the flames. arggghhhhhh. No flames, I think you just wanted a spanking from afar, but you're not manipulating me that way. I agree and you should know (if you don't) that hip hop as a representation of black love/life is ridiculous and a lie. The other side of the coin is that in a country where Godliness is measured in amount of dollars/glitter, it's no wonder some desperately poor folks are selling their mothers/sisters/souls to make it. M

OnyxGoddess -> RE: sub/slave's colour, race and/or ethnisticity?? (4/30/2006 8:44:57 PM)
Oh and that site you found....even IT disputes the "fact" that 70% of whites buy rap music. AND it doesn't take into account the millions of dollars in sales by bootleggers, or free music downloads. GASP Oh but wait...it only mentions RAP. Not r&b, not reggae, not anything else. Soooooo find another source before you try to tell me I'm perpetuating stereotypes. You're giving out misinformation which is far more troublesome. Good thing I like to read.

BlkTallFullfig -> RE: sub/slave's colour, race and/or ethnisticity?? (4/30/2006 8:56:10 PM)
I thought you were done and the rest should go suck it? Your point was that "blacks are the biggest freaks", and I called it a stereotype, and all the white folks know it's a stereotype, but you've correctly labeled yours an opinion like an asshole (and that I cannot disagree with). The other point you made was that blacks/hispanics are freaks because they have a high birth rate: all one needs to give birth is insert penis in vagina of someone who is too ill informed to use a barrier for birth control at the wrong times of the month while fertile. Getting pregnant is hardly evidence that one knows what he or she is doing sexually aside from responding to one's natural mating call. That is hardly evidence of being sexually free, it's more evidence of being poor and too uninformed to make choices that don't destroy your life and that of your offspring for years to come. M

OnyxGoddess -> RE: sub/slave's colour, race and/or ethnisticity?? (4/30/2006 9:01:52 PM)
now you're just being a dumb ass and taking shit out of context and waaay too serious. if you read it correctly it said i was joking. and it is an opinion just like YOURS are so get over yourself. And even people who are well off and educated get pregnant and have children...whoa what an idea. guess you missed that step in sociology dumbass 101. *"If you're a cool person with great personality and a good sense of humor you're A-OK in my book. The rest can just suck it."* *Yeah that was said with regard to cool people and uncool people. God...you're dangerous cuz your comprehension of what you read is way off.*

mstresskayla -> RE: sub/slave's colour, race and/or ethnisticity?? (4/30/2006 9:02:59 PM)
I am also inclined to agree with BlkTallFullfig's statement about African Americans being quite conservative when it comes to sexuality. Granted, I am possibly respresenting a different age group, but I have experienced quite a bit of closed mindedness from my fellow Black folk when it comes to sex. There are quite a few Black men who still think giving a woman oral is disgusting, however they will quickly guide her to her knees to please them, as there is nothing wrong with that, you know. [/end sarcasm] Miss Kayla

slo18 -> RE: sub/slave's colour, race and/or ethnisticity?? (4/30/2006 9:41:47 PM)
hmm, my ex was an american of indian decent, with cultural back ground of hinduism. witch really expands way beyond a religus faith and rules the whole socity. I have dated latin men, I have dated amerincans of african decent, I have dated americans of asian decent , and i have dated cacasion men. and while phsyicly I am atracted to just about all those groups in general and the one that I am not there are defently indaviduals i find atractive. i have come to a conclusion that at this time I would prefer to stick with caucasions, who are socialy near my leavel or slightly above, because they share more of my cultureal and social norms. also my grandparents wont try and make them stay in the garage at easter dinner (jk) hope I havent peeved anyone off.

NeedToUseYou -> RE: sub/slave's colour, race and/or ethnisticity?? (4/30/2006 9:46:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig quote: ORIGINAL: NeedToUseYou As an example the whole gangsta rap thing, I just don't get at all, and the group that plays into that the most is black people, to a lesser degree whites I think you're just trying to get my attention by acting less than well informed. Poor black youth have discovered a way to get rich by giving you what you want, sex and violence, mixed with a little taboo of the lustful black woman already in your head. Did you read my post above http://poplicks.com/2005/06/who-buys-hip-hop.html quote: "fact" that "70% of hip-hop consumers are white." 2) It's "proof" that if hip-hop has gone to hell in a handbasket, it's not because the Black youth community has decided to embrace sex, drugs, violence and general nihilism, it's because that's what voyeuristic white kids want and since white kids are the main consumer demographic, record labels push their albums to fill that consumer desire. this argument has been used to explain why conscious rap is dead, dead, dead and why pimps, players and hustlers have become the new norm quote: NeedtoUseYou It has nothing to do with anything other than the dress in the "scene" the general attitude, and language displayed is not attractive to me. Listening to it is one thing but applying it to everything in your life is another. So, the color doesn't matter, but it's how the person acts that is important. Acting in the Hip-Hop/ Rap ghetto style will simply repulse me right from the beginning. And, hot, is hot, is hot, no matter what color the woman is, but acting a way I find unattractive is killer for me, no matter how attractive. Hmmmmm, waiting for the flames. arggghhhhhh. No flames, I think you just wanted a spanking from afar, but you're not manipulating me that way. I agree and you should know (if you don't) that hip hop as a representation of black love/life is ridiculous and a lie. The other side of the coin is that in a country where Godliness is measured in amount of dollars/glitter, it's no wonder some desperately poor folks are selling their mothers/sisters/souls to make it. M hmmm, I did say in my post listening to it is one thing, but making it a lifestyle is what I don't like. IMy observation is that alot of whites do buy the music but it pretty much stops there as in language patterns, and dress in general, however at least around here almost all the younger black crowd emulate it in there day to day lives. And make no doubt I don't want a spanking from anyone. LOL, just the thought, well, anyway, I think that's the first post that really made laugh.

Vendaval -> RE: sub/slave's colour, race and/or ethnisticity?? (5/1/2006 3:11:50 AM)
Color, ethnicity, class and so forth do not matter to Me. Character, integrity, intelligence, a compatable sense of humor,complimentary interests and ideals are the match points. -Vendaval-

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: sub/slave's colour, race and/or ethnisticity?? (5/1/2006 6:03:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: IronBear How important is a potential sub/slave's colour, race and/or ethnisticity to you deciding to lock a collar about her throat? Like everything, it's a factor. But, it's not a deciding or major factor.

MasterRenegade77 -> RE: sub/slave's colour, race and/or ethnisticity?? (5/1/2006 10:59:07 AM)
I'd have to say that it would be a factor to Me if the woman were black not that it's a color thing but more a body type, facial features & hair that don't appeal to Me... Y/you can say I'm shallow but if a woman has no appeal to Me then there's going to be no chemistry...

LadyMorgynn -> RE: sub/slave's colour, race and/or ethnisticity?? (5/1/2006 11:15:13 AM)
I do find that I have a mild preference for Arabic men. This is because I've spent some time living in the Middle East, know (and enjoy) the culture, and even speak some Arabic. With an Arabic-speaking slave, I could improve my language skills quickly and regain the fluency, so hard-learned so long ago. Now, mind you, this is just a preference if I had to choose from a level playing field. If all other things were equal, I would choose an Arabic-speaking male to be my slave. However, it is NOT a criteria by which I chose a slave. There are many other much more important considerations. I do have to add, in all honesty, that since coming here to collarme and being approached by so many men of all types, I also have discovered in myself a anti-preference for black men; the black slave is just too stereotypical, too recent in history, and overt prejudice too much a given thing in this society, for me to be comfortable with having a black slave. I'd be constantly picturing MLK and Rosa Parks rolling over in their graves and every time I saw a picture of them, they would be staring at me accusingly. Well, you get my drift. I hope no one takes this as if I am standing in judgement of others, because I am not. I'm just saying how this occurs for Me.

LadyMolasses -> RE: sub/slave's colour, race and/or ethnisticity?? (5/5/2006 11:10:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mstresskayla I am also inclined to agree with BlkTallFullfig's statement about African Americans being quite conservative when it comes to sexuality. Granted, I am possibly respresenting a different age group, but I have experienced quite a bit of closed mindedness from my fellow Black folk when it comes to sex. There are quite a few Black men who still think giving a woman oral is disgusting, however they will quickly guide her to her knees to please them, as there is nothing wrong with that, you know. Amen to that. In my previous vanilla life, I was with black alpha males who were the absolute worst at giving oral. At one point I thought something was wrong with me because I didn't enjoy it. As a black domme, seems I have not had many racial issues. 90% of my subs have been white, the rest latino or asian. They all had one thing in common, an overwhelming desire to be dominated by a black woman. On that 1-10 scale, the worst was a 6 for oral skills,m and that was easily corrected. Works for me.

MsMirielle -> RE: sub/slave's colour, race and/or ethnisticity?? (5/5/2006 1:17:54 PM)
I am a Professional TS Domina and operate a small private dungeon. I've seen people from all races, all walks of life. Have had good times with most, bad times with some. But, to say it doesnt matter would be a lie. We are all raised with some prejudices. I try to miniminize them; but, if a young black man calls and he's physically large, does make me uneasy. I would question him more intensely to make sure he was a sincere sub before consenting to see him. I know this is prejudicial, not politically correct and I do feel bad about it' but, you are seeking honest answers and thought I'd give you one

BlkTallFullfig -> RE: sub/slave's colour, race and/or ethnisticity?? (5/5/2006 2:31:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mstresskayla I am also inclined to agree with BlkTallFullfig's statement about African Americans being quite conservative when it comes to sexuality quote: LadyMolasses Amen to that. In my previous vanilla life, I was with black alpha males who were the absolute worst at giving oral. At one point I thought something was wrong with me because I didn't enjoy it. As a black domme, seems I have not had many racial issues. 90% of my subs have been white, the rest latino or asian. They all had one thing in common, an overwhelming desire to be dominated by a black woman. On that 1-10 scale, the worst was a 6 for oral skills,m and that was easily corrected You Ladies are being tough on the brothahs, LOL. In my opinion, all two people need to be good lovers are: have chemistry, pay attention to your partner, and be open minded/experimental... No one is born with knowledge, and one person's good lover is another person's ruffian. These are the reasons I can't decide someone is going to be lover potential on looks alone; I have to talk to him and be next to him long enough to know if he arouses lust in me, and is capable of being open to my feedback on how to be a good lover to me. M P.S. IronBear, I see you started the fire, and never gave us your own opinions on the matter. What's up with that???? M

RavenMuse -> RE: sub/slave's colour, race and/or ethnisticity?? (5/5/2006 3:42:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: IronBear Here's a question for you all to play with....... How important is a potential sub/slave's colour, race and/or ethnisticity to you deciding to lock a collar about her throat? C'm on folks, females, fellas and bald iggles fess up.. Just how much does this affect you choices.....Just immaging y'all have a football field packed with suitable collering material...... 'almost' totaly irrelevant.A slight bias toward caucasian and oriental in my aesthetic tastes but thats about it. None of the important things, like the D/s dynamic, the spark of attraction and affection or the intelectual rapour between us is linked in any way toward the colour of her skin.

LadyMorgynn -> RE: sub/slave's colour, race and/or ethnisticity?? (5/5/2006 3:49:58 PM)
I knew I liked you :) quote: ORIGINAL: RavenMuse 'almost' totaly irrelevant.A slight bias toward caucasian and oriental in my aesthetic tastes but thats about it. None of the important things, like the D/s dynamic, the spark of attraction and affection or the intelectual rapour between us is linked in any way toward the colour of her skin.

MrMister -> RE: sub/slave's colour, race and/or ethnisticity?? (5/5/2006 4:51:39 PM)
The last time I made a comment in reference to my personal choice and preference, well, it got me into a bit of hot water amongst a few of the folks here on these boards who actually saw it appropriate to beat me about the upper-head and thorax due to my inability to effectively articulate at the moment. Solely based upon that I should plead the fifth ammendment on the grounds that might incinerate me. But let it be known that I am totally enamored with black ladies for a myriad of reasons. I find them to be so very physically attractive, exceedingly sensuous, very spiritual, and certainly have the uncanny ability to present things simply as they are with exceptionally few false pretenses. And the list goes on and on for me. But I most definitely don't hold the view that black ladies are the only ones to possess wonderful attributes; I'm just stating my personal choice and preference.

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