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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 6:05:38 AM

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When people say to me "No my name is pronounced Dathid not David"

I tells them well ya Welsh parents should have spelt it right then I could pronounce it right. Likewise Abu Dhabi, there is no such thing as a silent h dharn it.

My name is spelt Zhxally pronounced Sally...NO!

The one that always gets me is anything Gaelic, like Siobhan.

"Oh come on! You're just taking the piss now"

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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 6:08:30 AM

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It's not as bad as the Welsh place names, at least:
"That isn't the name of a town! That's just a really crap scrabble hand!"

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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 6:17:21 AM

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"Oh come on! You're just taking the piss now"

Joan of arc?

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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 6:23:31 AM

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It's not as bad as the Welsh place names, at least:
"That isn't the name of a town! That's just a really crap scrabble hand!"

Jimmy Carr, yes?

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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 6:24:44 AM

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"Oh come on! You're just taking the piss now"

Joan of arc?

heh. "Famous Quotes From History ..."

"What the fuck was that?!" - the Lord Mayor Of Hiroshima.

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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 6:29:46 AM

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Just as the case is with English, Arabic has more than one form. There is, for example, the classical language as seen in the Qur'an, there is the modern standard literary dialect (as used in books and newspapers, etc that cover the Arabic world as a whole), and there are also regional and national and local accents and dialects.

"Muslim" is standard and classical Arabic. "Moslem" is a pronunciation that might be heard in some national dialects, and is the form that got adopted into English use in earlier years, perhaps (but this is a guess) because of Europeans having colonies or occupation in those areas.

"MusliN" is a cloth. It is named after the people, not the other way around.

As for the meaning... "Islam" means "submission" according to many sources; in a religious sense, submission to God. "Muslim" (and "Moslem") means "a person who performs Islam", or, perhaps "a submissive". ;-)

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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 6:32:33 AM

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heh. "Famous Quotes From History ..."

"What the fuck was that?!" - the Lord Mayor Of Hiroshima.

"Be good to yourself chicken tikka masala." The Lord Mayor of Hiroshima's wife.

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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 6:34:41 AM

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heh. "Famous Quotes From History ..."

"What the fuck was that?!" - the Lord Mayor Of Hiroshima.

"Be good to yourself chicken tikka masala." The Lord Mayor of Hiroshima's wife.

*chortle*

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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 6:37:28 AM

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As for the meaning... "Islam" means "submission"

Not to be confused with '.Islamb' the .net boolean property indicating if a class has lamb like characteristics.

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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 6:44:25 AM

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http://hnn.us/articles/524.html. Its all down to pronunciation. Remember that our alphabet and the Islamic alphabet is very different.

Oh and Termy, when my son was a baby, his doctor wrote out a prescription but accidentally got one letter wrong. Instead of being prescribed some baby antibiotics he was prescribed adult tranquilizers. Fortunately the pharmacist noticed but it goes to show what getting one letter wrong could do

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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 7:25:40 AM

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Who cares if Obama is the Liar in Chief.
Not Obots.
Not Liberals.
Not Socialists.
Not Marxists.
Not Communists.
Not ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WaPo.
Not Congressional Dems, until this past week.

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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 7:44:09 AM

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Well, we are just keeping up appearances after Bush, so you don't look so fuckin stupid, we are really trying to help you guys out here. Don't bite the hand that feeds your paranoia......LOL.

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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 7:46:16 AM

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"Islam" means "submission"

...to God.

It also means peace.

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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 7:48:42 AM

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Who cares. Oh, gee, I dunno. The most reliable way to gauge this would be for a Muslim to run (openly) for national office.
My guess is he'd poll less than 10%......
But it brings to me an interesting idea for a new topic.

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2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 7:51:02 AM

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It means submission on many levels.
Of Mohammed to Allah.
Of Muslims to Allah and Mohammed.
Of all others to Muslims.............

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2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 7:57:01 AM

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Ho hum, been there done that.

Keith Maurice Ellison (born August 4, 1963) is an American lawyer, politician, and a Democrat. He became the first Muslim to be elected to the United States Congress when he won the open seat for Minnesota's 5th congressional district, which centers on Minneapolis, in the House of Representatives in 2006.

The Congress had two Buddhists - Hank Johnson from Georgia and Mazie Hirono from Hawaii.

109th U.S. Congress (2005-2006) (latest available)
Religious Affiliation Sen. Rep. Total % of Congress % of U.S. pop.
Catholic 24 130 154 28.8% 24.5%
Baptist 7 68 75 14.1% 16.3%
Methodist 11 50 61 11.4% 6.8%
Presbyterian 15 37 52 9.7% 2.7%
Episcopalian 10 32 42 7.9% 1.7%
Jewish 11 26 37 6.9% 1.3%
Lutheran 3 18 21 3.9% 4.6%
Latter-day Saints 5 11 16 3.0% 1.9%
United Church of Christ/Congregationalist 6 4 10 1.9% 0.7…
Stone-Campbell 1 6 7 1.3% 1.8%
Christian Scientist 0 5 5 0.9% 0.09%
Eastern Orthodox/Greek Orthodox 2 2 4 0.7% 0.31%
Assemblies of God 0 4 4 0.7% 0.53%
Unitarian 1 2 3 0.6% 0.30%
Christian Reformed 0 2 2 0.4% 0.04%
Seventh-day Adventist 0 2 2 0.4% 0.35%
African Methodist Episcopal (AME) 0 2 2 0.4% 0.58%
Evangelical Free or Evangelical (not further specified) 1 1 2 0.4% 0.5%
Quaker 0 1 1 0.2% 0.10%
Community of Christ (RLDS) 0 1 1 0.2% 0.05%
Foursquare Gospel 1 0 1 0.2% 0.10%
Nazarene 0 1 1 0.2% 0.26%
United Brethren in Christ 0 1 1 0.2% 0.01%
Scientologist 0 1 1 0.2% .019%
Community Church 0 1 1 0.2% N.A.
McLean Bible Church 1 0 1 0.2% 0.005%
"Protestant" (not further specified) 1 20 21 3.9% 2.2%
"Christian" (not further specified) 0 5 5 0.9% 6.8%
unspecified 0 4 4 0.7% 13.2%
TOTAL 100 435 535 100.0%

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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 7:59:03 AM

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This is what happens when you have a pro muslim President in office.

Holy #$%&! Is this for real? Am I in the Twilight Zone? What's next;
hiring the Taliban to train border guards? Unbelievable!

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=40395
The Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC) announced on its website that
the entity has completed training for 2,200 TSA officers at the Los
Angeles International Airport. This training includes special
sensitivity training in handling the Koran during security screenings
and even private screenings for Muslim women.

Leaving aside for a moment the very public groping of a Catholic nun by
a Muslim TSA officer (photo included in the story), MPAC itself has
dangerous liaisons with terrorist entities such as the Muslim
Brotherhood as well as an al Qaeda funder currently serving prison
time.

One of the two founders of MPAC is a long-established protégé of
the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood, and both founders having spent
time in a Egyptian prison for Brotherhood activities there.

Welcome to America where terrorist histories are wiped clean by
political correctness!

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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 8:02:51 AM

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So, what do you think of Bush kissing the Saudi Prince?

Your link is asswipe, nothing credible in it. It is neocon neanderthal paranoic dosages so you can get your delusion fix for the day.

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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 8:05:01 AM

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reading comprehension is your friend.
The key words in my post were: national office.
intersting, though, that 100% of the faiths of the 109th Congress were based on the Bible.

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RE: Who care's if Obama is a Muslim - 12/11/2010 8:08:15 AM

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US Senators are national office (check it out, thats why they go to washington, and thats why they got that US thingie in their moniker (some key words for you to play with)) your way of thinking about what you want to think about does not compel me to have to give a shit, or even do anything more than laugh at you derisively, if I chose so.

It made national news at the time.

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