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Know what ? - 12/13/2010 4:57:13 AM   
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They want to do a cholesterol test on me. I say don't waste your time. If it's bad I won't take drugs, I'll deal with it by diet somehow.

What's more my BP runs over 65 points on average between diastolic and sytolic, so the pump is working. They said off the EKG that I had a prolonged QT, which THEY dismissed, after I did. I think I know how it happened.

In the past I used to train my body not to use too much O2. They tell you breathe when you pump iron ? Not me. I would hold my breath, smoke a joint or a cigarette or whatever. I would not "pant". I forced myself not to breathe. Now that I know there is no cardio and there is no pulmanary, only cardiopulmanary, I have rethought it out a bit.

By not breathing under that stress, I made my heart pump harder. That's the theory right now anyway, and all the current indications support it. I did my sets holding my breath at times, and I climbed hills with a smoke in my mouth. The body does adapt and I think I made it adapt to conserving oxygen.

My normal BP is about 145 over 70, 80 or so BPM pulse. My base body temperature is about 97.9 F. I am not totally normal and I'll gloat when I please.

So now what ? My path is clear enough, get my eyes fixed and get moving along in life. I thought I was going in for a preop, but it turned out to be a general followup. They mentioned a coloscopy. I had to put that in humor because I thought "Just how far do you plan on sticking that thing up in me ? ".

Then I read the papers. Cholesterol ? I don't give a fuck, I have trouble walking around because I can';t hardly see. Welll I can, but it is getting bad. I rarely drive anymore. I can't see the number on a fucking bus. My colon does not do that.

I need this process strasmlined. They need to know thaty I am not going to die while they fix my eye. I don't care about the rest of the bullshit.

I thought on the 26th I would be close to having my surgery scheduled, but once I got there they had no notion of it. Typical I guess. I'll go in without any pretest, could I maybe just sign off ? I'll gamble on it. Hell they don't even use any real anesthetics. You are awake for this and out of there in an hour or so. What the hell does my LDL/HDL have to do with it ?

If they think I'm going to die fine. Give me a paper to sign. I'm not going to die. I been trying for at least thrity years and can't getr it done, nothing they can do will accomplish it.

Now I gotta straighten this out. Where do I sign ? If I die on the table getting my eye fixed, you just throw me in the dumpster and be done with it. But of course they'll want their copay up front, but they always do anyway.

Now itr's all fucked up probably because my opthamalogist is going to be on maternity leave. When I saw her she was just about as pregnant as the come. Cutie for sure, and DEFINITELY showing. The way she moved I figure she had about a month before the time came. By now I probably have to wait until after she has the kid.

This red tape is a bunch of shit really. They want a stool samplle, look I need my eye fixed, if you can't see that this is the other end........... I don't know what to tellya.

Cholesterol my ass. What destroy my liver with those pills ? Fat chance. If it's high I'll deal with it in diet. I already have one scrip, I'm never going to fill it. I don't need it. And I don't want more.

Surprisingly though, with my high diastolic BP reading they never said a word aboiut my BP, as in gtrying to treat it. Probably because my systolic is so low.

Why did I postr this ? I dunno but I suspect thsat I am looking for advice on how to deal with these people. Like, my car has a flat tire, I don't need new windshield wipers.

Minimumalist intervention is what I'm after.

T
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RE: Know what ? - 12/13/2010 5:55:25 AM   
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Okay, Termy.  Cholesterol is a huge concern of the doctors, but it shouldn't be. I have way high cholesterol, from both sides of my family, but no family history of heart problems.

What the docs don't usually know is that there are two kinds of cholesterol, one bad and one not-so-bad.  Bad cholesterol is from what you eat - fried foods, too much meats, eggs.  Cut down on that stuff.

But there's also the cholesterol that your bod makes.  It's not bad for you at all.

I got pressured to take Lipitor once.  My cholesterol dropped and my liver got screwed up.  I quit, and everything went back and I was much healthier.

Also.. low carb helped my triglycerides a lot.


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RE: Know what ? - 12/13/2010 6:32:37 AM   
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quote:

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What the docs don't usually know is that there are two kinds of cholesterol, one bad and one not-so-bad.  Bad cholesterol is from what you eat - fried foods, too much meats, eggs.  Cut down on that stuff.

Also.. low carb helped my triglycerides a lot.



Well there's a contradiction.  You're right about the second, but partially wrong about the first.  People are meant to eat meat.  There's nothing better for you than animal fat.  The bad cholesterol that builds up in veins and causes blockages is from the processed vegetable fats that are so common in modern diets, not unprocessed animal fats.  About a year ago I went primal, dropped all grains from my diet and started loading up on animal fats and fresh vegetables.  My weight, LDL, and triglycerides have dropped, I've lost fat and put on muscle mass, and I feel healthier than I ever have.  Eating a whole food diet based around meat and animal fat is the way to go.

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RE: Know what ? - 12/13/2010 6:58:02 AM   
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Oops.  I meant to say too much mammal meat.  I do eat lots of poultry.

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RE: Know what ? - 12/13/2010 8:45:46 AM   
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Mammal meat is awesome too.  I eat tons of beef and pork.  In fact, I've been eating to much junk lately (grains) so I'm planning on doing a steak purge soon - a big fatty steak every day as my main meal, and little else but vegetables.  I do that now and then for about a week, and it really makes me feel great.

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RE: Know what ? - 12/13/2010 9:08:32 AM   
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...."The bad cholesterol that builds up in veins and causes blockages is from the processed vegetable fats that are so common in modern diets...."

I'm a firm believer that this is true, I worked at a place that made emulsifiers and fats, that stuff is like plastic, it just don't break down.
I also beleive we are meant to eat animal meat, but not as much as a typical American seems to. I eat also eat fish and poultry, I'm carefull where I buy this stuff from, and buy my poultry from whole foods or someplace else that sells organic. I swear you can see the difference as the stuff cooks.
Eat less processed crap, that means no McD or the king or ? cut out soda, yeah diet soda too, and eat more vegies. Go for long walks or get someother excersice.
Since I've made those simple changes, I still struggle with my weight a little, but my blood pressure, and cholesteral are fine, my BP is normal and my resting haert beat is in the mid 50's.

How to deal with the paperwork crap? Try telling them your out of money for co-pay, ask everytime they want to do a test that don't make sense "Why do I need this and how much does this cost?" Maybe they will get tired of hearing you ask questions and just keep stuff down to the minumum. I know high blood pressure can cause eyesight issues, but I don't get the coloscopy thing.

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RE: Know what ? - 12/13/2010 3:04:53 PM   
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"I know high blood pressure can cause eyesight issues, but I don't get the coloscopy thing. "

That's the point. This is all the bullshit they think you need at a certain age. I like the idea of playing poverty on the copay.

LOL, maybe I should walk in there and say "Fix my eyesight now or I am going to drive around playing with guns". Boom, get it done the next day. Public safety issue.

DS, I get what you're saying about cholesterol and all that. But I believe that it is not the food that has changed, at least not exclusively. We have changed. Even with the most exemplary diet, there is something missing. This leads to many diseases, but just predicting how it will manifest itself in a given individual is near impossible. Too many variables.

If you ever get tired of life, try termyfries ! Make them at night and let them sit out overnight. Fry up a bunch of hot Italian sausage and save the juice and grease. Refry the fries in the icky stuff until they are again crisp. Ingest. Repeat if possible. They are awesome to taste, but if you have a heart attack five minutes later you don't get to remember it for long enough. If it ain't one thing it's another.

I'm still working on a simplification of the matter. Something like sugar becomes fat, carbs become sugar, and fat becomes ??????. Something like that. I also like to fry certain things in bacon grease, but the trick is not to eat the bacon grease. People might say EEEEK BACON GREASE ! but the fact is you don't drink the shit. If you boil up some noodles do you drink the water ? Hell no.

Anyway, I didn't go there for advancded life extension measures. I want my eyeball fixed. I'll have a look at my cholesterol reading, but I am not wrecking my liver to get to the optimum number. In fact some say it shouldn't go much under 200. I wonder 200 what ? I know it is some kind of kgs/cm3 (LOL) or some shit like that, but who are they to say what the optimum is ? Really if they tell me it is high, I'll consider dietary changes. But I am not taking pills.

More later. I muzt go now and dance between the snowflakes. I'll be baaack.

T

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RE: Know what ? - 12/13/2010 3:10:19 PM   
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200 mg/dL, which is milligrams per deciliter.

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RE: Know what ? - 12/13/2010 5:49:34 PM   
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quote:

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Mammal meat is awesome too.  I eat tons of beef and pork.  In fact, I've been eating to much junk lately (grains) so I'm planning on doing a steak purge soon - a big fatty steak every day as my main meal, and little else but vegetables.  I do that now and then for about a week, and it really makes me feel great.



It depends, I can't properly break down red meat, leaves me feeling as if I got food poisoning, it's caused by an enzyme that my body lacks. As for all non-animal fats being bad for you, err, nope, rapeseed oil, flax oil, good olive oil is actually wonderful. My dad had serious heart issues and after his surgery first thing they told him was to eat as little meat as possible... His BP dropped and he's now a lot healthier though he does complain a lot about missing fatty meats (ewww)

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RE: Know what ? - 12/13/2010 6:35:02 PM   
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Operations are stressful for people. People have strokes under stressful situations. High cholesterol contributes to stroke risk.

My EKG is never normal. Both catatact operations required a cardiac stress test first.

But I hear you on the colonoscopy. It's been ten years since the first cataract was removed. I'm in need of the laser tightening treatment. I can't pay for that and the colonoscopy so it will have to wait.

Within ten years of having the cataract done, you will need a laser treatment follow up. The shorter the time your surgeon usually does that, the worse he is. The best surgeons have it closer to the ten year mark. Not on the first year's anniversary. Ask him about his follow up rate.


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