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Subspace? - 1/17/2004 1:34:02 AM   
Voltare


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OH MY GOD SHE'S NOT MOVING! This was my reaction the first time I saw this happen. I'd love to hear others thoughts on this condition.

Real quick like, what is it? What's it feel like? What are some suggestions to care for a sub/slave who's lost in it? Is it more enjoyable? Less?

Just what the heck is the hoopla?

(rrrrreally looking forward to the comments here)

Stephan
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RE: Subspace? - 1/20/2004 12:14:30 PM   
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Voltare,

This same question was posed to me just last week. This was my response:

~Subspace:

Often mistaken to stand for "submissive space" when in actuality, it stands for subconscious space. In other words, the trip a sub/slave takes into subconscious levels of thought during play. This is only achieved with both active participants in a D/s or BDSM partnership. You do not have to be committed to a particular Dominant exclusively to experiment with sub space. But without a solidified trust established between the two elements, this is virtually impossible to reach. The key element to attaining sub space is the ability for the sub/slave to "let go", and without trust, this too is unattainable.
That said, it is hard to explain exactly what sub space is, or how it feels. Each sub/slave is obviously unique and came into the lifestlye with their own intentions, backgrounds, and needs. In my experience, each time my Master plays with me, the sub space "feels" different every time. This is largely due to the fact that He approachs each scene differently....i never know what to expect....one of the many reasons i am in rapture in my place as His slave.
As i said, it is hard to describe the elements of sub space. But, there is one recurring level i seem to frequent in my "trips" there:

It is dark...the wind howls with the fierce persistence of a neglected child. i am utterly vulnerable to the cold and bitter enviornment surronding me. There is a force watching...an almost tangible fear engulfs me....and i run. To what end, i do not know...But He is no more than a foot behind all the way. My heart pounds...and i know i have lost the fight when i feel His sweltering breath on my neck. He is upon me...the terror overcomes my mind...i submit. He sinks His teeth into my flesh. He holds me close....and i am safe.

The beautiful thing about this path i've chosen is the learning process. Every day time we play, i find more about myself. i couldn't really explain whom the "He" is for certain...perhaps it represents my father, maybe my previous Dom with whom i had a bad experience, or instead a deep rooted subconcious fear i have yet to fully understand. Whatever it may be, my Master takes on this role each time we play. It is an art to truly Dominate a sub/slave....To be able take someone on a journey into different levels of their mind, and knowing the exact moment to pull them back. i am so very fortunate to have found a Master who not only comprehends this, but practices it with conviction. ~

..this is of course my humble opinion. i too would love to hear other other views on this.
~dahanala

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RE: Subspace? - 1/20/2004 2:41:50 PM   
Estring


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According to my slave, the most important thing she needs in her subspace is to hear my voice. She needs that to feel safe. She feels very vulnerable and open in that state, usually she cries uncontrollably, and my voice soothing her makes her feel safe there. And hearing my voice helps her in her return to regular consciousness. So Stephan I would say keep calm and in control and keep talking to your slave. That is what she needs in that state.

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RE: Subspace? - 1/20/2004 5:49:16 PM   
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Maybe i'm a weirdo, but I'm not a huge fan of what I call "whitespace". I mean, it's ok occasionally, don't get me wrong, but it's not something I'm going to go chasing like folks seem to do.

Whitespace, for me, is floaty...it's like reality swathed in cotton...it's a lot like a morphine high, actually. I think slowly, react slowly, and process slowly. I don't experience things with the intensity that I usually do. But it's peaceful and beautiful too.

How to take care of me when I'm like that? Realize that my reaction time is significantly diminished and don't let me walk into walls, etc. That's about it. Like any drug, it will wear off in it's own good time. Just don't expect me to make rational decisions when I'm like that.

When I'm bottoming, I prefer the adrenalin rushes to the endorphin highs, these days. I want the roller coaster ride, the rush...I want to rock and roll...scream...stomp....I want to blast energy out all of my pores, not get lost in it. Sometimes the floaty high is a nice change of pace, but I get bored with it quickly. It's too easy.

When I'm topping, I don't have any investment in the people i'm playing with going there. I want them front and center, connected with me, struggling. I don't want them floating off. There's no rush in that for me. And it's all about me, isn't it? :)

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RE: Subspace? - 1/21/2004 5:47:02 AM   
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Having only been on other side of the coin, I cannot say what it is to experience subspace, but I have oft heard it described as SherriA put it: “is floaty...it's like reality swathed in cotton”.

What I do know is that for many it is very addictive. Why? Not sure, it maybe that they enjoy disassociating from real life, and find peace there. And once a sub experiences it they want to go back. Some even seem disappointed when a particular scene doesn’t take them there.

Just my .02

Terry

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RE: Subspace? - 1/21/2004 5:47:41 AM   
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You're a wierdo, but we love ya anyway.

Hey wait, Im a wierdo too. Go figure.

< Message edited by ShadowHwk -- 1/21/2004 8:23:42 AM >

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