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FirmhandKY -> RE: FLASHBACK: Gore Reports Snow and Ice Across World Vanishing Quickly... (1/4/2011 3:11:41 PM)
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ORIGINAL: rulemylife
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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY
So you are going to continue to ignore all the rest of the stuff I posted about how Gore makes money on this stuff, in direct response to your request?
Like you did a year ago, when I first posted the information for you, and which you ignored then, as well?
Why are you answering Popeye on the subject, rather than me, when I specifically addressed your request to "be educated", and repeated the information once again?
Having read through it, a few questions come to mind.
First, he is a private citizen. Any influence he has on passing legislation is as a private citizen. He holds no public office so there is no conflict of interest as your article implies.
Second, as he said, he is putting his money where his mouth is. Alternative energy is something he apparently believes in so why should he not invest in that? I thought conservatives liked that sort of thing. You know, the freedom to invest in any business that you wish.
Third, what he is investing in is hardly proven technology nor guaranteed that it will ever make money. He is taking a risk on things that may never be viable.
Is it just because you don't believe in climate change that you and others want to dredge up anything to discredit someone who does?
Tell me again about your theories on ideological blinders and bias. I need a good bedtime story.
oh, Goodie!
Let's start first with your third point:
Third, what he is investing in is hardly proven technology nor guaranteed that it will ever make money. He is taking a risk on things that may never be viable.
Is it just because you don't believe in climate change that you and others want to dredge up anything to discredit someone who does?
Tell me again about your theories on ideological blinders and bias. I need a good bedtime story
Yes, let's talk about "ideological blinders and bias", my friend.
If you had bothered to read my linked post a year ago, in the Climategate thread, you would have found the original context concerning my post about the money that Al Gore has made:
For rule, primarily (I'm still riding that horse, even if you don't want to participate), and all the others who claim that a single penny accepted from any organization or person who may .. just may ... have a vested interest in a subject automatically excludes anything that they may publish, or say from the "creditable" list of sources:
and then, later in my post ...
Now, personally, I think Gore has been damn savy about his combined "invest" and "propagandize" strategy to get rich, whatever his motivations.
My point, however, is that if you (and your "side") wish to denounce the acquisition of a single dollar as sufficient to blacklist someone's (or some institute's, or some thinktank's) from the debate ... then anything that Al Gore has said, or touched over the last 30 years is certainly deemed adequately besmirched to be thrown out, and disregarded.
And, in fact, if you use the same reasoning, not only should everything he has been involved in besmirched, his own moral and personal code of ethics doesn't measure up (your standard), and instead of a "prophet", or a "visionary", you should classify him as a greedy capitalist exploiter and demagogue.
Do you?
So, my first counter-point is that I will now feel free to totally dismiss your and every other AGW proponent's claim that a single dollar of research funding into "Climate Change" provided by an "evil oil company" discounts results of such research.
My second point is that I already think Gore was a pretty savvy investor ... and kudos to him for it, as I have already said.
My third point is that it is your own ideological biases that are on display.
My fourth point is that my post in this thread was in direct support of Popeye's claim, and your request to "show you the money". Specifically, in post 75 he said (slightly modified for clarity):
And the $100 Million he made off of this farce doesn't have anything to do with it does it? Anyone who believes this guy probably believes those t.v. preachers with bad haircuts!
Where is Eric Holder on this? He should be pressing criminal charges against Gore for swindling so many people out of their money.
And now Gore has some new hobbies, yachting, mansions and corvorting with prostitutes!
And the "global warming" morons actually listen to this guy? This is a sickness like those 9-11 "truthers", a form of mental illness.
Too bad I didn't go to Harvard's Divinity School, I too could be an "expert" on "global warming." As any good detective knows, "always follow the money!"
You responded twice on the point that Popeye was making (that Al Gore was making a lot of money off of "Global Warming"):
Your post 87:
Why don't you show us what a good detective you are and follow that money.
Show me the $100 million that he made.
Your post 89 (in response to a comment from EternalHoH :
I've asked several times on this thread and so far no one has been able to tell me how he is "getting obscenely rich doing it".
Care to educate me?
Your responses had condescending connotations ("show me what a good detective you are" and "Care to educate me?"). All I did was respond for them, with creditable sources to show that Gore is and has indeed made a lot of money off of "Global Warming", and $100 million is likely quite a bit low as an estimate. And without a bit of commentary as to the morality of him doing so.
You didn't seem to wish to gracefully accept that your attempt to undercut both Popeye and EternalHoH has come to naught, and it now appears that you have decided to throw down the false scent of my "ideological biases" with that slight twist of condescension once more (" I need a good bedtime story").
Anything else you'd like to discuss before your bedtime? [8D][:)]
Firm
edited to fix a broken link
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