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AquaticSub -> RE: Is CM really good for newcomers? (1/5/2011 7:46:11 AM)
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ORIGINAL: gungadin09
Yes, she said those things. That was after about ten pages of responding patiently to various posters on a thread gone out of control; she finally lost it. If you want to judge her for that, go right ahead.
What she did not say is that she hates, despises, or is totally intolerant of men with an ounce over what she considers to be their ideal weight. Nor did she say anything that could be reasonably mistaken for that.
i'm not asking you to like her. i'm not asking you to like her posts. i'm not even asking you to believe she is a tolerant or kind person. i think it is fair, however, to ask that you don't misrepresent her words. You have distorted them beyond all recognition. She said nothing of the kind.
pam
Are you kidding? What the heck do you mean she said nothing of the kind? That is EXACTLY what she said!
Go reread the thread and find where I insulted her. I questioned her but never insulted her yet she lit into me.
Seriously Pam, I was trying to be nice in my first post here but she's getting exactly what she put out. She was repeatedly judgmental of people who didn't have their weight listed - not overweight people but people who didn't list it.
Her thread was incredibly controversial because it accused a wide variety of people she didn't know of having no self-control. Of course it got people questioning her intently - she should have expected that. Half of using a forum responsibly is considering what you want to put out there and what you can handle being commented on.
Then she swung wild and attacked anyone and everyone. While she apologized to me her words were extremely insulting and have certainly colored how I see her and her posts. I'm sure that they have colored how others have seen her as well - if I saw her speaking that way about you, for example, it would definitely color my opinion of her.
ETA - Actually... here... I'll help. When she said that the thread was ten pages long. I joined on page number four. My first post - a direct response to the OP.
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Other people are going to be feel differently about this. But I would not be with someone who would dismiss someone's weight issues as a complete lack of self-control. I struggle with my weight and the reasons for my struggle are complicated and private. Anyone who would dismiss it so easily simply isn't worth my time.
If you can't accept me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best.
When I am thin, I deliberately screen out others who dismiss people so easily - like I screen out people who are rude to waiters. It's one thing to simply not be attracted to someone. It's another to presume you know something about a stranger based on weight.
Second post - a response to her saying she needs someone to fix her drive-thru habit:
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To each their own but I preferred finding an awesome Dom who loves me and finds me sexy regardless of my weight. Val chased after me at 200, he didn't chase after any more at 140 and he doesn't chase after me any less at 175 where I'm currently struggling.
I like knowing he wants to ravage me at any weight and leaving the 'curing' to weight watchers and personal trainers.
My third post was a discussion between me and prop regarding on views on weight loss and our relationships with our owners.
My fourth was talking to spirited about how weight has been viewed through history.
My fifth was continuing the discussion between prop and I.
So was the sixth (we're on page five now).
Seventh was joking around with Spirited.
Number eight was personal discussion with prop again.
So was number nine.
Number ten was edited out because it was a response to someone (not the OP) editing out their post.
Number 11 was talking to BedroomDomme, defending skinny women. Most edited out because she edited out her post.
Number 12 is to you, questioning *your* words and asking if you consider being overweight to automatically be an addictive behavior. (we're on page 6 now)
13: Talking to Tazzy about the reasons why I still use an out-of-date pic.
14: Talking to you again about how *you* meant your terms in the context of the thread (no weight listed, the scant info of an online profile). Nothing about annie.
15: Talking to Atropos about when Tyra wore a fat suit and how fat is the new "unclean".
16: Actually talking to Annie again so I'll quote it:
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ORIGINAL: anniezz338
Sadly, it just is what it is.
Is it? Or is it what we allow because we find it acceptable to mock a particular group of people instead of chiding the ill-behaved?
17: Still talking to Annie:
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ORIGINAL: anniezz338
Yes, it is the way it is, right or wrong. I've lived it and still do to a certain degree. Right, wrong, judgemental, whatever you choose to call it. It's a reality. Remember the big todo about two seats for obese people on airplanes? There were alot of strong opinions about that.
Segregation also used to be the way things were.
If you're comfortable with the current status, than by all means enjoy it. I shall continue to loathe it and not accept it.
18. Start my discussion with Leadership.
19: Talking to prop again (BTW, we're on page 8 now)
20. Talking with prop.
21. Still talking with prop about our views.
22. I make a post directed at no one in particular about how I don't get the connection between weight and dominance because of my very in-control and overweight father.
23. Comment to subkatslut that my father is still alive.
24. Continue discussion with Leadership. (This is the end of page nine. Now we move onto page ten where the insults took place.)
25. Talk to winnie about the biggest guy I ever dated and how I adored him because he could me into a headlock and his scent.
26. Talk to Icarys about bacon and scent of said man.
Aaaand then Annie posts and says she'd bounce my fat ass down the street. [:)]
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