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FirmhandKY -> "No, but I served in a company of heroes." (1/10/2011 8:26:27 PM)

Maj. Dick Winters, whose WWII leadership was inspiration for 'Band of Brothers', dies at 92
January 10, 2011, 3:07 p.m

PHILADELPHIA (AP) — Even as Parkinson's disease began taking its toll on Dick Winters, who led his "Band of Brothers" through some of World War II's fiercest European battles, the unassuming hero refused, as always, to let his men down.

Friends accompanied him to public events, subtly clearing a path through the adoring crowds for the living legend, whose Easy Company's achievements were documented by a book and HBO miniseries. His gait had grown unsteady, and he did not want to be seen stumbling.

Winters "didn't want the members of Easy Company to know," William Jackson said Monday of his longtime friend, who died last week at age 92. "Right up to the end, he was the company commander."

An intensely private and humble man, Winters had asked that news of his death be withheld until after his funeral, Jackson said. Winters lived in Hershey, Pa., but died in an assisted-living center in neighboring Palmyra.

RIP

Firm



slvemike4u -> RE: "No, but I served in a company of heroes." (1/10/2011 8:31:13 PM)

A true American hero.My condolences to his family.Rest in peace sir.



ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: "No, but I served in a company of heroes." (1/10/2011 8:38:38 PM)

I don't think there are any words sufficient to praise a man of Dick Winters' caliber.  A big part of what once made this country so special died last week.

RIP, and... thank you.



InvisibleBlack -> RE: "No, but I served in a company of heroes." (1/10/2011 8:43:18 PM)

Oh hell, Major Winters died today? Damn.

He was a good man.

Sic transit gloria mundi.



FirmhandKY -> RE: "No, but I served in a company of heroes." (1/10/2011 8:52:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: InvisibleBlack

Oh hell, Major Winters died today? Damn..

Last week.  But he had requested that news of his death not be published until his burial.

Firm



ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: "No, but I served in a company of heroes." (1/10/2011 9:03:33 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

quote:

ORIGINAL: InvisibleBlack

Oh hell, Major Winters died today? Damn..

Last week.  But he had requested that news of his death not be published until his burial.


Typical. Not surprising at all.

I've got to dust off my "BOB" DVDs and launch a "Band of Brothers" marathon this week.



popeye1250 -> RE: "No, but I served in a company of heroes." (1/10/2011 9:25:39 PM)

"Hand... Salute!"
Too bad we don't have more of his calibre in Washington. Everyone down there now it seems has some type of "law" degree.



Jeffff -> RE: "No, but I served in a company of heroes." (1/10/2011 9:41:37 PM)

There are men in the field today, as there have always been, acting with the same courage and devotion.

I would like to thank them all.

May Dick Winters Rest in peace.



Termyn8or -> RE: "No, but I served in a company of heroes." (1/11/2011 1:14:49 AM)

I didn't see Band Of Brothers, I read it.

It doesn't matter what I think of war, or the reasons for, they kicked ass.

So without reservation, I say to them - THANK YOU.

And don't forget those who did not come back, they didn't.

T



RapierFugue -> RE: "No, but I served in a company of heroes." (1/11/2011 1:21:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

I don't think there are any words sufficient to praise a man of Dick Winters' caliber.  A big part of what once made this country so special died last week.

RIP, and... thank you.

An extraordinary man.

His leadership of Easy Company's assault on the fixed position guns during D-Day is still used in military schools today as a textbook example of how a small group of determined, well-trained commandos can win against superior odds and fixed position defenders, if their commanders are good, and can think on their feet.

R.I.P.



GreedyTop -> RE: "No, but I served in a company of heroes." (1/11/2011 1:25:09 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeffff

There are men in the field today, as there have always been, acting with the same courage and devotion.

I would like to thank them all.

May Dick Winters Rest in peace.



This.

R.I.P.



Jaybeee -> RE: "No, but I served in a company of heroes." (1/11/2011 1:47:54 AM)

A hero of a righteous war, fought by conscripts for a good cause, not by today's unthinking, bloodthirsty herd fighting for they-know-not-what, nor caring.

RIP Rich - we owe you and your brethren more than we ourselves could ever know.



Termyn8or -> RE: "No, but I served in a company of heroes." (1/11/2011 1:56:00 AM)

So there are good wars and bad wars now ? That doesn't matter to a soldier.

T



joether -> RE: "No, but I served in a company of heroes." (1/11/2011 2:05:05 AM)

He was an inspiring man. A good person, that lived every fiber of his life, to be better then the day before. He will be missed, by so many. Rest in Pease, Sir!



Jaybeee -> RE: "No, but I served in a company of heroes." (1/11/2011 2:05:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

So there are good wars and bad wars now ? That doesn't matter to a soldier.

T


To most soldiers nowadays, no.

(Edit) And no, there are no good wars.



RapierFugue -> RE: "No, but I served in a company of heroes." (1/11/2011 2:08:17 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Jaybeee

A hero


Could you find it in your heart, just this once, on account of this fine man's achievements and life, to put a sock in it?

Please.



RapierFugue -> RE: "No, but I served in a company of heroes." (1/11/2011 2:10:21 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Jaybeee

quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

So there are good wars and bad wars now ? That doesn't matter to a soldier.



To most soldiers nowadays, no.

At the time, very few ordinary soldiers knew what it was precisely that they were up against, so to say those of WWII somehow made a choice to fight in a just war is stretching it a bit. They did as their countries asked them, as soldiers do.



Termyn8or -> RE: "No, but I served in a company of heroes." (1/11/2011 3:08:15 AM)

As did their comrades. Who cares what put them in that situation. They were ultimately loyal to one anther, their brothers, chosen brothers. All fighting for their ideals, their beliefs. Loyal to the point of literally giving their life for one another, which is alot rarer than people think. Battles that were hopeless, BUT WE GOT A MAN IN THERE !.

Perhaps it is not the victory that should be celebrated, but the spirit.

"that lived every fiber of his life, to be better then the day before"

Not the safety afforded to Standard Oil by Smedly P. Butler, not the cadmium in Serbia nor the phosphorous in Viet Man. Not the fact that the disgruntled Saddam Huessein's plans to severly injure the US ecomony were thwarted, nor the hoax of the USSR cold war that fueled our fake ecomony for decades.

The spirit. What if he wasn't a soldier, instead a firemen who just saved a bunch of burning babies out of a towering inferno ? Or a Man who pushed your Mother out of the way of a speeding bus ?

Don't tear into JB too much because he is right. He just doesn't know when to shut up sometimes. I see the difference. I find it hard to believe that heroes sit up in a plane and push a button to kill cowards with bombs strapped to their chest. We must separate these issues, and realize the difference. That cunt laying on one of Saddam Huessein's bed with a shit eating grin is not a hero. The money that started that war were not heroes. But the people who put her there were. No matter what you think, it is a different issue.

The sad fact is that most hero types would be deemed insane now. Does it matter if they are fighting for cadmium or wheat ? That is not their problem, because they are soldiers. They know that war is not a democracy. All they know is the lives of their comrades in arms depend on them, and they WILL NOT LET THEM DOWN.

It is that which should be celebrated.

T



JstAnotherSub -> RE: "No, but I served in a company of heroes." (1/11/2011 3:33:50 AM)

What an amazing man. May he RIP.



Jaybeee -> RE: "No, but I served in a company of heroes." (1/11/2011 4:31:10 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: RapierFugue


quote:

ORIGINAL: Jaybeee

A hero


Could you find it in your heart, just this once, on account of this fine man's achievements and life, to put a sock in it?

Please.


It's BECAUSE his achievement and sacrifices are being sullied by todays bunch of unthinking, bloodthirsty coward soldiers, that I'm speaking up. There were literally MILLIONS of WW2 vets, and before recent wars, every one of them was a hero, fighting for a just cause, and yes, ONE WHOSE LEGITIMACY WAS BEYOND DOUBT.

Now as for you mate, I'm getting a tad tired of your complaining. Heroes like Dick died to safeguard my freedom of expression, and in that spirit, the answer to your question is a big, fucking, resounding "No".



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