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Westboro nutjobs decide against protest.. - 1/12/2011 5:43:34 PM

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Westboro "Church", makes change in plans.....

I love it! Not only was the legislation passed in record time (one day), neighbors and locals had already decided to use themselves as human shields, protecting a family that just lost their 9 yr old child.

I can imagine a bunch of Tuscon cops after hearing about the new law, just itching for them to protest anyway.

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RE: Westboro nutjobs decide against protest.. - 1/12/2011 5:46:39 PM

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In exchange, it gets radio air time.

This is their MO. Come in, announce their intentions, back off later and reap the publicity.

In this case---they entirely won, and with a rich bonus.

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RE: Westboro nutjobs decide against protest.. - 1/12/2011 5:52:43 PM

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Yes, they get 30 min of air time with someone who detests them...with commercials, breaks, it will probably wind up to be more like 15 -20. Too much, I agree, however in order to save a family more grief, worth it, imho.

I suppose they could have simply arrested them during the protest, since I'm guessing a little thing like a law wouldn't have stopped them, but this will offer the family a little more peace, rather then the commotion that would have gone on prior to the arrest.

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RE: Westboro nutjobs decide against protest.. - 1/12/2011 6:05:17 PM

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Since when do we negotiate with terrorists?

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RE: Westboro nutjobs decide against protest.. - 1/12/2011 6:17:56 PM

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Yes, they get 30 min of air time with someone who detests them...with commercials, breaks, it will probably wind up to be more like 15 -20. Too much, I agree, however in order to save a family more grief, worth it, imho.

I suppose they could have simply arrested them during the protest, since I'm guessing a little thing like a law wouldn't have stopped them, but this will offer the family a little more peace, rather then the commotion that would have gone on prior to the arrest.

Uh, no. The WBC is composed of lawyer types, who make a living suing when someone gets pissed off and infringes on their rights. An arrest would be just what they wanted.

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Since when do we negotiate with terrorists?

I agree.

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RE: Westboro nutjobs decide against protest.. - 1/12/2011 9:08:54 PM

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If there is a law in place, and that law is ignored, how can there be a lawsuit claiming anyone's rights were infringed upon?    I might want to sue the city for putting up a no parking sign where I park my car, but legally I don't think it will fly. The city of Tuscon has created a legal way to prevent protests at funerals, not sure how WBC could fight that.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to send that entire org., off to some third world country. However, I feel a family has the right to bury a child in peace.   If giving the twisted bunch a few moments of time, (not like they haven't had much more in the nationwide media already), will buy that peace for a grieving family...I say no harm, no foul.

They may be sick, delusional and a few more choice words thrown in...why would you call them terrorists? They feed on publicity, any where they can find it, believing it is their job and right to "spread the word". They are a hate group, most definitely, targeting any public funeral they can find for the chance to spread their poison.   But I don't label them as terrorists, just some misguided folks with little or no compassion for others.

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RE: Westboro nutjobs decide against protest.. - 1/12/2011 10:24:24 PM

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From what i can find out, the Law is similiar to the one from Ohio, which has already passed a constitutional challenge.

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RE: Westboro nutjobs decide against protest.. - 1/12/2011 10:33:25 PM

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Lisa, here's some info on them. They're obviously entirely sane and know exactly what they're doing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church

This is the third time they've been bought off with air time. They likely share the distinction of being the only group that both Bill O'Reilly and Michael Moore speak out against.

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RE: Westboro nutjobs decide against protest.. - 1/12/2011 10:35:49 PM

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300 feet. Roughly the length of a football field. I find it a perfect solution and would love to see all states adopt it.

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RE: Westboro nutjobs decide against protest.. - 1/13/2011 12:12:16 AM

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Didn't the crowd at Ronnie James Dio's funeral take care of this problem ? Damn, I knew I should've gone.

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RE: Westboro nutjobs decide against protest.. - 1/13/2011 1:10:35 AM

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Hi Steven,

We have a different meaning of sane, lol   Seriously, I know where your coming from, but my thought is still...they are a group of hate mongers, nobody important. I refuse to give them any importance...so if by buying them off with radio time is a way to keep them from destroying the memories of someones funeral, why not?   Unfortunately, we can't shoot them for holding signs.

We live in a country that allows them the freedom to protest, letting them spew on the local radio show is a peaceful way of allowing parents to grieve and remember their daughter without having a riot on the front lawn.

I would love this new law to go national too, tazzy.    I would like to see it firmed up as well, to avoid future loopholes. Funerals should just be off limits for this type of thing!
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RE: Westboro nutjobs decide against protest.. - 1/13/2011 2:03:29 AM

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They likely share the distinction of being the only group that both Bill O'Reilly and Michael Moore speak out against.

That's a great way of putting it :)

Does anyone know if their membership numbers have grown at all as a result of these "protests" of theirs? The last I saw (the Louis Theroux documentary a few years back) they were a very small collection of loons, mostly from one family - that wiki page says 71 in 2007. I'm wondering if all this publicity, which as you say they're masters of milking, is actually doing them any good. I mean 71 out of 312,000,000-odd people isn't exactly packing bums on seats ...

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RE: Westboro nutjobs decide against protest.. - 1/13/2011 2:50:58 AM

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I got this from one of the radio stations that offered air time in toronto

"Our desire is only to ridicule them, most listeners recognize how preposterous they are"

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RE: Westboro nutjobs decide against protest.. - 1/13/2011 2:58:29 AM

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I got this from one of the radio stations that offered air time in toronto

"Our desire is only to ridicule them, most listeners recognize how preposterous they are"

Let's face it; you'd have to be as woofing mad as they are to not realise that :)

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RE: Westboro nutjobs decide against protest.. - 1/13/2011 2:59:13 AM

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We live in a country that allows them the freedom to protest, letting them spew on the local radio show is a peaceful way of allowing parents to grieve and remember their daughter without having a riot on the front lawn.

Well now that the 300' law is in effect, I say cancel the deal. Fuck'em if they can't take a joke.

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RE: Westboro nutjobs decide against protest.. - 1/13/2011 4:33:09 AM

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Lisa, I may be wrong but i believe what DarkSteven is implying is just because a law is in place doesn't mean that people won't fight for the rights they feel that law is violating. They bring it into the Courts and they interpret the law and when it goes up the chain, the SCOTUS then decide if it violates rights as a final decision.

As for WBC, they seriously sicken me. I absolutely LOVE the patriot guard and i am sure they will be at the funeral of these victims. To me, they use these funerals as someone implied because they can't get anyone else to listen to them at any other time. So they decide to cause problems when people are most vulnerable because they know that most people's concept of decency will allow them to negotiate for things they want such as airtime. I think that people who listen to that station should - - in protest lol -- turn off their radios during the airtime and have major dead air. Not that it will matter to them but to show WBC that people don' wish to HEAR them, whether it be at a funeral or some other public venue they have commandeared for their drival spiel.

It does boggle my mind that intelligent people are actually part of WBC, while i get the rights of free speech, but to me people have a responsibility in how they utilize same and trying to use free speech as a way to "harm" people at their most vulnerable time is not being responsible.

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RE: Westboro nutjobs decide against protest.. - 1/13/2011 4:36:44 AM

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All the stations involved really have to do is run a warning moments before the segment airs that for the next 30 minutes, people should change stations to avoid hearing their BS. Then they can have 30 minutes of broadcasting to no one.

They promised airtime. They didn't promise listeners.

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RE: Westboro nutjobs decide against protest.. - 1/13/2011 4:43:52 AM

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RE: Westboro nutjobs decide against protest.. - 1/13/2011 4:45:19 AM

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Exactly my thought. Its the proverbial shun concept. However, they will have to deal with the fallout from advertisers who are played during that segment and i really hope there isn't any negative fallout for them.

I appreciate the radio station stepping forward because they are taking a risk.

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RE: Westboro nutjobs decide against protest.. - 1/13/2011 6:59:33 AM

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Since when do we negotiate with terrorists?

When the terrorists are on our side of the religious fence.

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