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ORIGINAL: Zevar
What did your sarcastic comment have to do with the seriousness of this topic?

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ORIGINAL: Zevar

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The horrifc outcome of this tragedy is nothing to take with a grain of salt. Granted, many people in this world are not as this man proved himself to be. However it is better to err on the side of caution as opposed to throwing all caution to the winds. One of the things this situation proves is that some folks are not trustworthy, nor capable of balancing their own internal life dynamics, thus take their fantasy world as a reality to act out on others. One of the things that is so sad is that this creep used spirituality to get his victims. How pathetic! There are no words to offer that will reverse this horror that was acted out. Nonetheless, caution is valauble when related to interacting with other people in this world. Keeping in mind, the mindset of people as this creep are never able to predict. However caution does offer a bit of distance from those who are less than worthy of trust. Lessons learned are only valuble when applied, regardless how they are learned, aye!

Take Care!

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ORIGINAL: RapierFugue

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ORIGINAL: Zevar
What did your sarcastic comment have to do with the seriousness of this topic?

What did your meaningless, mindless, unthinking, knee-jerk platitudes have to do with it?

At least I'm helping folks keep a sense of proportion. What are you doing, other than flapping your gums?

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ORIGINAL: hausboy

I agree Zevar. completely.  This was a truly vile and horrible crime--two horrible crimes. (fortunately the second woman survived)   The media didn't focus on the fact that the guy was on Alt (thankfully) but the point they were making was that he had multiple profiles and ways that he sought out his victims--he found the 2nd victim on Alt.com  

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ORIGINAL: Zevar
I meant you no harm or insult. My question was asked in a sincere manner with the intent to arrive at a point of clarity regarding your comment.

Yeah, sure it was That's why you used the pejorative "sarcastic". That kind of passive-aggressive crap might work on the kind of people you hang around with, but it won't wash with me, so stick your snarky comment wherever it smarts most, sunshine.

Look; I'll make it as simple as you clearly need me to: it's an awful situation. A person is dead. That's what we refer to as bad.

However, what it isn't is grounds for the kind of disproportionate, unthinking, Princess Diana-style hand-wringing and rampant "oh my god that's so scary!" relationship paranoia that's going on in this thread. "Oh no! Some people can't be trusted!" No shit, Sherlock. The world's not universally lovely and filled with fluffy bunnies but, for the most part, it isn't going to destroy you either.

Live in fear and you might as well be dead. Tragic events happen every day - I for one view the starving to death of children, when the world has enough to feed all its inhabitants, as far worse a crime than this one, and a much greater tragedy but hey, what would I know. This guy makes the news on these forums because of his hobbies, not because people are genuinely appalled at his crimes.

And I haven't even mentioned the positive social benefits in having a potential serial killer who preys on spiritualists ... but we’ll leave that for another day.

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ORIGINAL: Zevar
Thank you for your comments hausboy. Sadly this creep sought out his victims with malice in his intent, ragardless what he claimed. I believe that this creep was planning his every move on his next victim. Meditation had zero to do with his actions, clearly. Thank you for bringing this topic for discussion. Perhaps in some way this will serve to wake others to becoming less willing to give their trust to someone that is a murderous player. Violence against women is in all instances, unaccpetable!

Take Care!

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ORIGINAL: RapierFugue

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ORIGINAL: Zevar
I meant you no harm or insult. My question was asked in a sincere manner with the intent to arrive at a point of clarity regarding your comment.

Yeah, sure it was That's why you used the pejorative "sarcastic". That kind of passive-aggressive crap might work on the kind of people you hang around with, but it won't wash with me, so stick your snarky comment wherever it smarts most, sunshine.

Look; I'll make it as simple as you clearly need me to: it's an awful situation. A person is dead. That's what we refer to as bad.

However, what it isn't is grounds for the kind of disproportionate, unthinking, Princess Diana-style hand-wringing and rampant "oh my god that's so scary!" relationship paranoia that's going on in this thread. "Oh no! Some people can't be trusted!" No shit, Sherlock. The world's not universally lovely and filled with fluffy bunnies but, for the most part, it isn't going to destroy you either.

Live in fear and you might as well be dead. Tragic events happen every day - I for one view the starving to death of children, when the world has enough to feed all its inhabitants, as far worse a crime than this one, and a much greater tragedy but hey, what would I know. This guy makes the news on these forums because of his hobbies, not because people are genuinely appalled at his crimes.

And I haven't even mentioned the positive social benefits in having a potential serial killer who preys on spiritualists ... but we’ll leave that for another day.

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ORIGINAL: RapierFugue

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ORIGINAL: Zevar
I meant you no harm or insult. My question was asked in a sincere manner with the intent to arrive at a point of clarity regarding your comment.

Yeah, sure it was That's why you used the pejorative "sarcastic". That kind of passive-aggressive crap might work on the kind of people you hang around with, but it won't wash with me, so stick your snarky comment wherever it smarts most, sunshine.

Look; I'll make it as simple as you clearly need me to: it's an awful situation. A person is dead. That's what we refer to as bad.

However, what it isn't is grounds for the kind of disproportionate, unthinking, Princess Diana-style hand-wringing and rampant "oh my god that's so scary!" relationship paranoia that's going on in this thread. "Oh no! Some people can't be trusted!" No shit, Sherlock. The world's not universally lovely and filled with fluffy bunnies but, for the most part, it isn't going to destroy you either.

Live in fear and you might as well be dead. Tragic events happen every day - I for one view the starving to death of children, when the world has enough to feed all its inhabitants, as far worse a crime than this one, and a much greater tragedy but hey, what would I know. This guy makes the news on these forums because of his hobbies, not because people are genuinely appalled at his crimes.

And I haven't even mentioned the positive social benefits in having a potential serial killer who preys on spiritualists ... but we’ll leave that for another day.

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

It would be such a scary world out there if murderers ever figured out how to use a computer or the interwebz...Thank God this is the exception...I am certain they will never have this kind of a problem out on craigslist or facebook.

You are all losers.

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

One of the people being interviewed commented that it was disburbing how many people are caught because a lover/former lover/potential lover recognized some fantasty, charaterisic knot in the bindings or other little detail.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Yes, in some cases, I think the electronic version of meeting allows one to put up a better smoke screen.  If they write well via email, there might not be any gut instinct that this is a dangerous person until you meet them face to face.  We just had a thread recently in off topic about there are times that folks ignore their intuition and it's had bad results.  That could be exactly the same type of circumstance as this one

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ORIGINAL: porcelaine

Oftentimes the well spoken and seemingly polished person is the very one you should avoid.

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ORIGINAL: hausboy
I have a question for you--and I'm being serious here--do you do any internet dating?  Because in my experience, and granted, it's only been three years for me, most of the time, women don't want an endless string of email.  We email for about 1-2 weeks tops, and after that, a coffee date is either next up (or a phone chat) or we cut if off.   Many women don't feel comfortable giving out a phone number (understandable), so we end up having a cup of coffee--which gives us both an easy out.  1 hour of our lives to see if we want to spend more than an hour together.  Sometimes getting ANY information about a person can be like pulling teeth.

I'm not talking about heavy duty stuff either--I'll settle for anything that can tell me something about a woman's personality--pets? favorite movies? last book she read? does she volunteer?  what drives her passion...art? music? hiking? 

You know how women complain about guys who write them one line sentences?  Women can be just as guilty of that "offense."  If after three emails they won't write more than 2 sentences, I move on.

And believe it or not, I'm really not bitter.  I continue to date--typically once or twice a month--because I still am optimistic that there is someone special out there for me.  If I didn't believe that, I wouldn't bother with it at all.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Here is My very simplistic view of this.

I think we have to accept the fact that those who would perpetrate criminal acts (for the moment, let's not dip into 'well all of BDSM is criminal') against other people.  We also have to accept that there are folks who are mentally ill, to the point of becoming violent criminals, who are on the internet.  If we accept that, we also have to accept that those people are also on dating and match making sites.  Heck, we have them here.  (Really now.  Search your inner mind and tell Me that you can't come up with a name in your mind of someone on this site that you believe is mentally off balanced.)  This leads Me to believe that mentally less than sane people are on Alt, Fet, EHarmony, OKCupid, and all of the other ones.

Yes, in some cases, I think the electronic version of meeting allows one to put up a better smoke screen.  If they write well via email, there might not be any gut instinct that this is a dangerous person until you meet them face to face.  We just had a thread recently in off topic about there are times that folks ignore their intuition and it's had bad results.  That could be exactly the same type of circumstance as this one

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ORIGINAL: NihilusZero

Hey!