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"Service is Love made manifest." - 1/18/2011 9:04:52 AM

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I'm quoting, with permission, the most thoughtful and wonderful OttersSwim ...

I read that and thought.. wow, yep.. that's it... and in between the talk of ice and work or no work and conference calls and such with darling boy this morning I said... is this true? .. and said... the quote...and she said.. no not always...

so.. how much does love matter to you? any kind... romantic or otherwise...

I thought a lot about it and we did discuss it. She did say its great when love is involved but its not necessary. And while at the beginning of the conversation I thought love (of any kind) is necessary for me -- I realized by the time we finished the conversation that in fact, love was not always necessary.

love and service.. do they go together for you? if so.. how? do they always have to?

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RE: "Service is Love made manifest." - 1/18/2011 9:33:02 AM

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I couldn’t argue on any particular point here, with the exception of narcissistic egomanical bastards. Aside from them, being human and having a shred of emotion makes your statement very true and valid. I have always held to the notion that touch is the meaning of life, and for me it is. I love being touched, not just physically, it goes beyond the scope of tactile sensation. How I could be touched with a smile, with a look, a thought and so on. It was the connection behind the many ways I could be touched... be understood. Of course it was always the D/ side of the touch and I spent a lifetime craving the various touches from a good girl. Recently a very profound thing happened to me. I was in a very good relationship where everything I needed was being met, of course the side effect of needs being met is the wants are often met by happenstance. I broke all my rules to get involved with this person, yeah I know its kinda weird a Troll having rules, but I broke them none the less. I do regret ever making the decision to break the rules and have to carry that guilt with me, however I do not regret the lesson I learned. As much as I loved everything she done for me and to me, it wasn’t till after it was over that my odd lil epiphany struck me. I wasn't truly missing what she was doing for me, to me, or how she made me feel, I missed what I could do to her. I missed touching her, looking into her eyes, holding her and more importantly I missed that all the love I had to give to her she took and wanted more. I have always been the odd one out here, because I have always felt if you can't love your “label” girl, what is the point of it. This girl fulfilled my needs happily, didn't ever have to toss a demand because she lived for my happiness. Her service to me was the expression of her love for me, and my love for her was a service to her needs. Again, of all the things I could miss most selfishly, what I miss the most is her taking the love I have for her, touching her and listening (and actually hearing) her.
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RE: "Service is Love made manifest." - 1/18/2011 9:49:00 AM

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Actually, no, they don't always have to go together, in My opinion. I think that saying that they must is flawed.

While I don't completely discount the premise of falling in love at first sight, I don't really think it happens that way for most people. I'm led to believe that in the majority of cases, fondness and affection between people grows as time goes on. Not everybody waits to be in love before a dynamic is put in place. What I'm saying here is, I don't think folks are out there putting together a relationship until they feel they are 'in love' and then alter that relationship to include authority, service, or any of the other things that make our relationships different regarding wiitwd.

In My case, My romantic needs are satisfied. This makes it easier for Me not to care. If I was monogamous and had no other relationships, I might see it differently. Since I'm not, I think it allows Me to make very realistic assessments about love and it not being a requirement to engage with another person in a dynamic. Like your boy said, great when it happens, but it's not a must.

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RE: "Service is Love made manifest." - 1/18/2011 10:22:25 AM

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I will point out there are many kinds of "love" and expressions thereof.

Even though I am in a romantic love relationship with my Lady, I actually did not mean romantic love in that saying. Let me tell you a story that involves how I learned that quote...

We were at a pagan festival two years ago. A young woman named Molly came to our camp with mutual friends and we all ended up in an RV where I was cooking dinner for four that turned in to dinner for seven. My initial impression of this person was that she was a "hanger on"- you get such folk at these festivals - people who show up rather unprepared and sort of float around for food and lodging. But we fed her and her friend without complaint and they turned out to be interesting and engaging conversational guests. But what made the difference, was when dinner was over - this stranger - jumps up and begins clearing the dishes, and pretty much flies a solo job of handling the cleanup. When we expressed our gratitude to her, "Service is love made manifest." is what she replied. And how she said it and her actions really backed it up that she totally believed it - and her actions were a direct expression of love towards all of us. We spent many more hours in that festival with her, and even invited her back to our home afterward - she was a welcome guest and a wonderful person.

That phrase really struck me as I am drawn to service and concepts of service in submission. And so I submit that when I cook and serve a dinner to people for whom I am not involved romantically, it can still be an act of love. That our intentions towards our fellow humans can be filled with love and yet, not be romantic love.

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RE: "Service is Love made manifest." - 1/18/2011 12:12:13 PM

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For me, yes, they go hand in hand, but that's just because my actual situation is so convenient for me. I totally agree that it's not always the case. Sadly.

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RE: "Service is Love made manifest." - 1/18/2011 5:08:59 PM

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What kind of love? Romantic? Nope. Not a factor; We are not "in love" with either of Our slaves. But, love, as in for another human being? Absolutely. We serve Our slaves as much as they serve Us, only in very different ways. In order to serve another human in a spiritual way, there must be some kind of love, just not romantic. Think of the kind of love Mother Theresa, Ghandi, Buddhe, Christ and Rumi had or have. THAT kind of love is what is happening in Our relationships.

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RE: "Service is Love made manifest." - 1/18/2011 9:01:06 PM

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i agree with what otterswim said of her freind service is love made manifest. i do love to serve and find great pleasure in doing so the greatest happines i have is my Mistress pleasure my worst fear is in not pleasing Her and Her displeasuer with me

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RE: "Service is Love made manifest." - 1/18/2011 10:27:59 PM

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