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RE: Value of Poetry - 2/8/2011 1:43:06 AM   
WyldHrt


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Status: offline 		LP was dead on. There is nothing less attractive in a potential partner than desperation. Someone who is both obviously desperate and apparently looking for anyone of their desired sex that will sleep with them is just... squick.

I don't pretend to speak for all submissive females, but what attracts me to a Dominant is self confidence, intelligence (not to be confused with unfounded ego and pseudo- intellectual crapola), and a quiet self control that tells me that this is the person in charge. The Dom who currently holds my attention wants me because I add to his life; he doesn't need me to be his life. If I could twist him around my little finger at a whim, the attraction that I feel would die, full stop. If he whined the way I have seen the OP whine on this thread and others, I would never have written to him and would have deleted any mail he sent to me unread.

I hardly ever say things like this, but... OP- I have absolutely no sense that you are even the slightest bit Dominant. Your posts come across as someone looking... nearly begging for a mercy fuck, and that is just pathetic. It seems that someone along the way told you that if you slapped a 'Dom' label on your ass, the sub girls would fall at your feet.
It doesn't work that way.






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RE: Value of Poetry - 2/8/2011 2:24:51 AM   
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I wonder what I could do with that line. This is something that came to mind.

I am a super-ignoramus and dismally dysfunctional when it comes to poetry, but I rather suspect that my lines were far better. It was John Norman who taught taught taught taught me. (Though I rather suspect that he was poking his tongue into his cheek.)

Have you ever competed in and won a poetry slam? If not, it would be modest to keep your efforts private.


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RE: Value of Poetry - 2/8/2011 2:34:13 AM   
Rule


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I am a holy man.

Then do not snivel.

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RE: Value of Poetry - 2/8/2011 10:37:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM
I wonder what I could do with that line. This is something that came to mind.

I am a super-ignoramus and dismally dysfunctional when it comes to poetry, but I rather suspect that my lines were far better. It was John Norman who taught taught taught taught me. (Though I rather suspect that he was poking his tongue into his cheek.)

Have you ever competed in and won a poetry slam? If not, it would be modest to keep your efforts private.




I am thinking maybe I should write a book entitled "The Black Sheep of Gore" telling of a group of outcasts on Gor that tells their story of an underground spiritual rival of the Goddess. In their meetings they openly confess their love for kajira and promise to forsake the whip. Upon making these promises they fall to their knees wailing and calling out the name of their Goddess begging, "Please forgive us!"

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RE: Value of Poetry - 2/8/2011 2:09:13 PM   
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http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3548878
this woman doesn't appear to be in agreement with all of you. It seems to me that you all want this non-existent united front.

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RE: Value of Poetry - 2/8/2011 2:19:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM
I wonder what I could do with that line. This is something that came to mind.

I am a super-ignoramus and dismally dysfunctional when it comes to poetry, but I rather suspect that my lines were far better. It was John Norman who taught taught taught taught me. (Though I rather suspect that he was poking his tongue into his cheek.)

Have you ever competed in and won a poetry slam? If not, it would be modest to keep your efforts private.




I am thinking maybe I should write a book entitled "The Black Sheep of Gore" telling of a group of outcasts on Gor that tells their story of an underground spiritual rival of the Goddess. In their meetings they openly confess their love for kajira and promise to forsake the whip. Upon making these promises they fall to their knees wailing and calling out the name of their Goddess begging, "Please forgive us!"


I am thinking on writing a book called dumbasses of CollarMe, you would figure prominently therein.

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RE: Value of Poetry - 2/8/2011 2:27:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

I was looking over some posts from another thread of mine
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3548878
this woman doesn't appear to be in agreement with all of you. It seems to me that you all want this non-existent united front.


So, like Ammon-Ra, you are out here violently disturbing your member and creating the Milky Way with the jizm? Because you ain't gonna get no girls the way you are going about it.

Because you talk to yourself and point out what a swell feller you are to yourself so much that I don't know of any woman who would interact at length with that level of narcissim, they like to talk too. And frankly, you just ain't interesting or of any more than a rudimentary intellect.

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RE: Value of Poetry - 2/8/2011 4:02:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Musicmystery seems smart, cool, and savvy in comparison to you mnottertail. I already know you are shallow. It's a pity that he kisses your ass. I didn't realize that has no self-respect. When you wrote "I am thinking on writing a book called dumbasses of CollarMe ..." you insulted everyone here. The domain name of CollarMe is so warm and fuzzy. I don't think you are being fair to everyone. You made such an over generalization. I think you should apologize to everyone.

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RE: Value of Poetry - 2/8/2011 4:06:05 PM   
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I am thinking on writing a book called dumbasses of CollarMe, you would figure prominently therein.



How come only dumbasses get a book written for them?

What about the cock-sucking whores from Jersey of CollarMe?

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RE: Value of Poetry - 2/8/2011 4:31:14 PM   
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Musicmystery seems smart, cool, and savvy in comparison to you mnottertail. I already know you are shallow. It's a pity that he kisses your ass. I didn't realize that has no self-respect. When you wrote "I am thinking on writing a book called dumbasses of CollarMe ..." you insulted everyone here. The domain name of CollarMe is so warm and fuzzy. I don't think you are being fair to everyone. You made such an over generalization. I think you should apologize to everyone.


And with your post, you insulted Goreans.  You are a coward, and you lie and pretend that you are liked, and you lie and pretend that you have at least average intelligence. 

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RE: Value of Poetry - 2/8/2011 5:26:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

Musicmystery seems smart, cool, and savvy in comparison to you mnottertail. I already know you are shallow. It's a pity that he kisses your ass. I didn't realize that has no self-respect. When you wrote "I am thinking on writing a book called dumbasses of CollarMe ..." you insulted everyone here. The domain name of CollarMe is so warm and fuzzy. I don't think you are being fair to everyone. You made such an over generalization. I think you should apologize to everyone.


And with your post, you insulted Goreans.  You are a coward, and you lie and pretend that you are liked, and you lie and pretend that you have at least average intelligence.


You state your case here better than you did before. About the book, if Goreans are going to take Gor seriously, Why can't you have a rival of Goddess worship on Gor? Why should the knowledge that a kajira once walked among them whose beauty once brought Gorean men to their feet be censored? I have been to Gor and heard the sacred words of this kajira.

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RE: Value of Poetry - 2/8/2011 6:51:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM
About the book, if Goreans are going to take Gor seriously, Why can't you have a rival of Goddess worship on Gor? Why should the knowledge that a kajira once walked among them whose beauty once brought Gorean men to their feet be censored? I have been to Gor and heard the sacred words of this kajira.



Please stop talking nonsense.

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RE: Value of Poetry - 2/8/2011 9:17:39 PM   
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If this don't beat all. This thread is among the hottest topics now, and over what ? Is it which countries should have nukes, ending poverty or securing our future ? Is it about a new cure for all that ails mankind, a scientific breakthough or even some stupid new lifesaving device ?

Nope, it's over some sort of prose or poetry. Now I know how to get attention here ! Now I will not rate the object of discussion, as poetry to me, well, at times it rolls off and others it takes a year to write enough lyrics for a three minute song. Few words in the genre will ever move me, my speed is more like ;

Little Suzy was a cutie,
Men would eat her shit,
The hottie with the body,
Who always gave me tit

They would hate her for her crater,
And chase that luscious leg,
When she stopped to turn around,
They would start to beg.

But it's amazing. How far do you think we have to go to get the "ratings" like the Holly and Potty show ?

For people who don't want to hear it, I think the turnout is pretty good.

T^T

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RE: Value of Poetry - 2/8/2011 10:00:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

This is a repost for reasons stated in the post from another thread. "Is Love Inconvenient?" in All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> General BDSM Discussion located at http://www.collarchat.com/m_3548516/tm.htm

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You doubt a woman can understand the concept of nesting?


No, that was not on my mind. My understanding is deep. It is extremely unlikely that your understanding is deep. I did not wish to digress so I cut to the chase. You assume that all that I have on my mind is what women can or cannot grasp. I'll put it this way, I look forward to being pleasantly surprised. That said, it isn't on the forefront of my mind either. You are being much too suspicious....


(sighs) I've absolutely NO idea why this was dragged over to this thread.

My comment about nesting was a play on words. I just found your use of the word nesting, and your comment that you doubted I would understand such a very complex and DEEP concept of nesting, very amusing. I understand with all your deep thinking and all, that my subtle humor and play on words just flew right past you. No worries. It might have been better understood if I had added a smiley or something after the comment.

ANYWAY, to actually be on topic:

Creative expression through my art and writing helped me through some very difficult times. In some ways, it was more escapism than expression, but it was still a way of coping.

Art spoke of my suffering for me, when it hurt too deeply to lift my gaze and reveal to a callous world my pain and sorrow.

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RE: Value of Poetry - 2/9/2011 7:54:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM
You state your case here better than you did before. About the book, if Goreans are going to take Gor seriously, Why can't you have a rival of Goddess worship on Gor? Why should the knowledge that a kajira once walked among them whose beauty once brought Gorean men to their feet be censored? I have been to Gor and heard the sacred words of this kajira.


Well, better yet why not have you as a punk for the kajira ? And they can whisper sweet and sacred words at you that would make a fuck of alot more sense than this other dogshit you are dropping, while you slave for them.

Nobody censored kajirae when this was still in the Gorean forum, as I peer back across the many dissembling posts you made on this very thread, seems to me that one of them ended up owning a large piece of your ass in that most poetic way.

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RE: Value of Poetry - 2/9/2011 8:53:52 AM   
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RE: Value of Poetry - 2/9/2011 8:38:31 PM   
BenevolentM


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http://www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/16213

I'm thinking you might like this poem Termyn8or.

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RE: Value of Poetry - 2/10/2011 6:40:13 AM   
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RE: Value of Poetry - 2/10/2011 7:06:43 AM   
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There is nothing less attractive in a potential partner than desperation. Someone who is both obviously desperate and apparently looking for anyone of their desired sex that will sleep with them is just... squick.

I don't pretend to speak for all submissive females, but what attracts me to a Dominant is self confidence, intelligence (not to be confused with unfounded ego and pseudo- intellectual crapola), and a quiet self control that tells me that this is the person in charge.  If he whined the way I have seen the OP whine on this thread and others, I would never have written to him and would have deleted any mail he sent to me unread.

I hardly ever say things like this, but... OP- I have absolutely no sense that you are even the slightest bit Dominant. Your posts come across as someone looking... nearly begging for a mercy fuck, and that is just pathetic. It seems that someone along the way told you that if you slapped a 'Dom' label on your ass, the sub girls would fall at your feet.
It doesn't work that way.
Precisely what I thought, after the first 2 pages.    Why hasn't anyone suggested paying a hooker to get out of this sorry state?   How in the world is he more attractive, desirable, dominant, whining and exposing himself this way, when the problem of consent could easily be fixed with whatever the going rate is?    Seriously, you are not too good to pay for it!   Hell, I hope you lose the creepiness, even before approaching a professional sex worker, because they too, have lines they won't cross. 

Seriously, the OP must be massively socially awkward, as well as a proper puritan, but honey it's not healthy.  To want some so bad, that you sound like your going to unceremoniously coerce some unwilling person to fix your non-consensual celibacy...   If the poetry doesn't work, and it doesn't seem to be.   M

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RE: Value of Poetry - 2/10/2011 10:25:56 AM   
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