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pahunkboy -> Border Officials Baffled by Surge of Indians (2/8/2011 12:02:07 PM)

Border Officials Baffled by Surge of Indians




DCWoody -> RE: Border Officials Baffled by Surge of Indians (2/8/2011 12:15:39 PM)

Is this politics or religion?

Also......religious/political persecution......in India? I don't buy that.




pahunkboy -> RE: Border Officials Baffled by Surge of Indians (2/8/2011 12:35:24 PM)

It shows what a joke the border is.   It also- nulls those who claim India is a rising power. If India is has such a big middle class- then why are they escaping?




Hillwilliam -> RE: Border Officials Baffled by Surge of Indians (2/8/2011 12:46:53 PM)

They heard that Microsoft is opening a customer service call center in San antonio. [sm=biggrin.gif]




mnottertail -> RE: Border Officials Baffled by Surge of Indians (2/8/2011 12:52:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

It shows what a joke the border is.   It also- nulls those who claim India is a rising power. If India is has such a big middle class- then why are they escaping?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyravG0_JMM




Lucylastic -> RE: Border Officials Baffled by Surge of Indians (2/8/2011 6:54:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

It shows what a joke the border is.   It also- nulls those who claim India is a rising power. If India is has such a big middle class- then why are they escaping?


You really dont know anything about india do you..
Maybe some research*not alex or larouche* might help
at least it will cut down on insults, maybe




pahunkboy -> RE: Border Officials Baffled by Surge of Indians (2/8/2011 7:17:32 PM)

LOL.   Fine.  Don't check the link.  LOL.




flcouple2009 -> RE: Border Officials Baffled by Surge of Indians (2/8/2011 7:40:33 PM)

As Lucy just said,  you really don't know much about India.  stop getting your info from Prison Planet.

I don't know why they are so baffled.  The route might be new but the migration isn't.  Maybe I've just known more Indians.

Yes PA, India has been thriving.  They have made huge strides with a major emphasis on Science and Technology. 

Doesn't change that "unofficially" much of India is still driven by the caste system.  It doesn't matter how successful India is,  these people don't have a chance.




pahunkboy -> RE: Border Officials Baffled by Surge of Indians (2/8/2011 7:48:18 PM)

But it is not fair that they are impostering Hispanics now. 




Fellow -> RE: Border Officials Baffled by Surge of Indians (2/8/2011 11:25:21 PM)

Commentator Mr. Dobbs claimed today, the poll data show, most Americans believe the government actually encourages illegal immigration (as opposed to preventing it or ignoring the problem).




GreedyTop -> RE: Border Officials Baffled by Surge of Indians (2/8/2011 11:35:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

But it is not fair that they are impostering Hispanics now. 


seriously offensive on many levels.




Moonhead -> RE: Border Officials Baffled by Surge of Indians (2/9/2011 5:12:06 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

They heard that Microsoft is opening a customer service call center in San antonio. [sm=biggrin.gif]

[sm=LMAO.gif]





popeye1250 -> RE: Border Officials Baffled by Surge of Indians (2/9/2011 9:22:52 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

But it is not fair that they are impostering Hispanics now. 


seriously offensive on many levels.



Yeah PaHunk, we wouldn't want to "insult" people who are trying to sneak into our country illegally now would we?




Demspotis -> RE: Border Officials Baffled by Surge of Indians (2/10/2011 10:50:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DCWoody

Also......religious/political persecution......in India? I don't buy that.



No need to buy it. The history books and current media can give it to you for free.

From what the articles about this current wave of migration via Mexico say, the majority of these migrants are Sikhs from the Panjab and Gujarat states of India. Sikhs have been under persecution ever since (if not before) the Partition of India upon Independence from the British Empire. While it was worst, particularly in Panjab in the 1980's and early 1990's, it is still going on.

There's a lot of history behind this, and perhaps I'll post more detail later. I think that for now it suffices to say that the Congress Party of India, which is currently in power, and has been in power for most of India's post-Independence history, is a socialist and distinctly secularist party which to some extent is against all religion. It persecutes Sikhs brutally (the fact that the current Prime Minister belongs to the Sikh religion is a smokescreen: he has not fixed his party's anti-Sikh practices). They are also not especially friendly toward the majority religion, Hinduism. In short, there most certainly is religious and political persecution in India. It is a democracy, and is certainly much better than many other nations, but there is still corruption and tyranny, persecution and torture, to be found as well.

Side note: It is important to explain what Sikhism is, though: it was founded by Guru Nanak, a contemporary of Christopher Columbus. Guru Nanak was born a high-class Hindu, but as a result of a spiritual experience rejected the identity of any existing religion, including those two most prominent where he lived, which were Hinduism and Islam. At the end of the vision, he declared, "No one is Hindu, no one is Muslim." (Koi na Hindu, koi na Mussulman., sometimes also translated ,"There is no...") Sikhism is sometimes described as a "mixture of Hinduism and Islam". This is false and directly contrary to that defining statement. Guru Nanak's (and his successors') teachings were in the same stream as other Indian spirituality, but he taught people from all backgrounds, and he preached to his audiences according to how they would best understand: he referred to Muslim concepts and Names of God when talking to Muslims, and referred to Hindu concepts and Names of God when talking to people from Hindu backgrounds. The social teachings of Sikhism, however are distinctly modern and "Western": freedom of religion, equality for all (regardless of gender, race, religion, social class, wealth, etc.), right (and duty) to bear arms in defense of freedom and justice for all, etc.




windchymes -> RE: Border Officials Baffled by Surge of Indians (2/10/2011 11:01:25 AM)

Oh. nm.

I thought you meant feather Indians......




LaTigresse -> RE: Border Officials Baffled by Surge of Indians (2/10/2011 11:36:33 AM)

And here I was, thinking it was a recreation of the Battle of Jumonville Glen.




LadyRedRose -> RE: Border Officials Baffled by Surge of Indians (2/10/2011 1:16:43 PM)

when i think of all the trouble my family went through to immigrate legally, they probably could have saved a hell of a lot of money and time by just coming through mexico! grandpa came here legally. guess the joke's on us. that's what our southern border is, a joke.




LaTigresse -> RE: Border Officials Baffled by Surge of Indians (2/10/2011 2:11:18 PM)

And you said this to me because you assume I care?




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