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Lifestyle Giveaways... - 10/5/2004 8:19:55 PM   
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Somewhere on the forum i was reading about "kink aware" markings or jewelery and it got me thinking. I'm a sub male and would love to wear something that projects who i am, to others that are "in the know".

I know that the triskellion is probably the most universally recognized symbol, but honestly, the thing is frigging ugly. (IMHO of course) Wearing it say on a necklace or bracelet would probably have me explaining to the vanillas on a regular basis that i wasn't taking Karate or into Tai Chi. The only place it seems to look ok is on David Caradine...

The only other symbol that seems to be as universally recognized is "The O Ring" that many female submissives wear. I have to admit, i like the looks of it very much, but i fear it may be out of place if worn by a masculine submissive.

What do you think... can men get away with wearing this piece... or is it something exclusively reserved for women?

Any other ideas?

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RE: Lifestyle Giveaways... - 10/5/2004 11:24:27 PM   
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I have seen men wearing it, frankly, I think its a bit feminine and does not look as well on a male, but I am bias.

I know the purpose of you wearing it is so that others can 'spot you in a crowd' but if neither one of those symbols suit you, then why not try something that may be more personal to you. Something that you can relate and identify with, and perhaps share that with others you are close to.

True, it isnt something that others in the lifestyle will be able to recognize, at least not initially, but maybe you can start your own trend with something you feel to be symbolic of your submission and equally aesthetically pleasing at the same time.

Hey, even if it never picks up as a trend, it will always be something personal, deep, and meaningful to you, so while it may not be what you are looking for, and while my post probably isnt the answer you seek, maybe you should think about it as a suggestion.

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RE: Lifestyle Giveaways... - 10/6/2004 5:21:36 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: strongnsubmissiv

Somewhere on the forum i was reading about "kink aware" markings or jewelery and it got me thinking. I'm a sub male and would love to wear something that projects who i am, to others that are "in the know".

I know that the triskellion is probably the most universally recognized symbol, but honestly, the thing is frigging ugly. (IMHO of course) Wearing it say on a necklace or bracelet would probably have me explaining to the vanillas on a regular basis that i wasn't taking Karate or into Tai Chi. The only place it seems to look ok is on David Caradine...

The only other symbol that seems to be as universally recognized is "The O Ring" that many female submissives wear. I have to admit, i like the looks of it very much, but i fear it may be out of place if worn by a masculine submissive.

What do you think... can men get away with wearing this piece... or is it something exclusively reserved for women?

Any other ideas?

sns



First, there are many different interpretations of the triskellion, you may find another interpretation of it that suits you. However, I don't think the o ring is just for women. Keep in mind that as popular as it is today, there were people who had to earn their o ring and who are highly offended when they see people wearing it who didn't go through the trials they did to get one. Just giving you a heads up in casr you run across someone who questions you about the ring and is insulted.

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RE: Lifestyle Giveaways... - 10/6/2004 5:25:03 AM   
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When I saw the title, I had to read the post, it made me think of personalized pens, pencils or other gewgaws. Printed with sayings like "I brake for newbies""f**k is not a safe word" etc. *LOL*

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RE: Lifestyle Giveaways... - 10/6/2004 9:44:46 AM   
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I wasn't aware of the Triskel being a symbol of "kink". I'm sure it probably has different intertpretations, as Shoshin said in her post. Among them is the Celtic meaning of "maid mother and crone", the stages of Womanhood, and spiritual (group) representations.

I am familiar with the "O ring" by association, and again I agree with Shoshin, there are those who have earned the right to wear their rings. And would have something to say about someone just wearing one without having gone through the rites and passage, no doubt. Or they may believe that you actually have, which may be a bit awkward at some point. I really don't know much more about it than that, but someone else may.

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"I brake for newbies""f**k is not a safe word" etc.


That was funny!



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RE: Lifestyle Giveaways... - 10/6/2004 9:55:02 AM   
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quote:

Keep in mind that as popular as it is today, there were people who had to earn their o ring and who are highly offended when they see people wearing it who didn't go through the trials they did to get one. Just giving you a heads up in casr you run across someone who questions you about the ring and is insulted.


Oh Shoshin i didn't know. I must have missed the memo that said i wasn't allowed to wear it without first being deemed worthy by someone that has nothing to do with how i live in this lifestyle. :P I hear what you are saying though. If someone is insulted by me wearing it, it'll take less than half a second for me to get over it.

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I have seen men wearing it, frankly, I think its a bit feminine and does not look as well on a male, but I am bias.


Yea i kind of had that in the back of my mind Mod One. Women get all the great perks when it comes to fashion. Curse my straight sexuality! Still i like the looks of the ring, maybe after looking at it for so long, i've convinced myself that it looks masculine enough to wear. LOL

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but maybe you can start your own trend with something you feel to be symbolic of your submission and equally aesthetically pleasing at the same time.


Ok it's settled. Here's where the trend starts. The tragus is that little bump part at the front of your ear, just before going in to the ear canal. If your tragus is pierced, it means you are part of the BDSM environment. I proclaim this to be true, because mine is already pierced so I automatically qualify! lol
*ahem* i mean... yea.. tragus piercing... anyone who's anyone in the lifestyle knows that if your tragus is pierced, it's a sign of solidarity to the BDSM community. Sure.. been that way for ears... i mean years...

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RE: Lifestyle Giveaways... - 10/6/2004 10:05:15 AM   
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The definition for the symbol is

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this (the triskelon) is a pagan symbol found frequently in Celtic and very pre-Celtic) art that refers to the threefold nature of the goddess as virgin, mother and crone. This dynamic triple armed design can be found in variations both in the East and the West. In the East it is known as the Wheel of Fire. In fact, three armed designs are everywhere, spanning time and culturesThe triskele, or triple spiral, a symbol closely related to the triquetra, is a tripartate symbol composed of three interlocked spirals. The spiral is an ancient Celtic symbol related to the sun, afterlife and reincarnation. The example above comes from the Neolithic "tomb" at Newgrange, where it is supposed by some to be a symbol of pregnancy (the sun describes a spiral in its movements every three months; a triple spiral represents nine months), an idea reinforced by the womblike nature of the structure. The symbol also suggests reincarnation- it is drawn in one continuous line, suggesting a continuous movement of time.

Triskeles are one of the most common elements of Celtic art; they are found in a variety of styles in both ancient and modern Celtic art, especially in relation to depictions of the Mother Goddess. They also evoke the Celtic concept of the domains of material existence- earth, water, and sky, and thier interelations.




Sorry to burst everyone bubble.. but that symbol has been around for Centuries and BDSM can't claim sole ownership. However SNS might be on to something with the ear thing.

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RE: Lifestyle Giveaways... - 10/6/2004 10:08:05 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyBeckett

I wasn't aware of the Triskel being a symbol of "kink". I'm sure it probably has different intertpretations, as Shoshin said in her post. Among them is the Celtic meaning of "maid mother and crone", the stages of Womanhood, and spiritual (group) representations.

I wear the Triskel as a Wiccan and about to go through my croning ceremony. I also wear it as a symbol of my lifestyle and have a cracker from the first whip ever used on me hanging from it.
Here is a link to better explain the BDSM symbol as well as show different representations of it. http://members.aol.com/quagmyr/emblem.htm

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RE: Lifestyle Giveaways... - 10/6/2004 10:38:50 AM   
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Thank you so much, Shoshin! There is a portrait of my Great Grandmother, Grandmother and myself when I was just a wee girl in front of a Triskel. Both of them Dominant women in the lifestyle, my dominant nature being nurtured, but the Triskel representing the Celtic/Wiccan interpretation. I have one next to my desk that represents that, and use one on a site where I write. How interesting to learn that it also has a BDSM value.




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RE: Lifestyle Giveaways... - 10/7/2004 7:42:29 PM   
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LadyShonin,

I must admit that I too was thinking of cheesy trinkets and even cheesier mottos when I read the tagline. I was happy to discover a bit of a kindred soul in that respect.

Strongnsubmissve,

It has always been my impression that "O" rings are earned and I have not seen them worn by male submissives but my world may be small. Not that this helps you in anyway, Strongnsubmissive, just another couple of cents to put in your bank.

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RE: Lifestyle Giveaways... - 10/11/2004 8:52:18 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyBeckett
I am familiar with the "O ring" by association, and again I agree with Shoshin, there are those who have earned the right to wear their rings. And would have something to say about someone just wearing one without having gone through the rites and passage, no doubt. Or they may believe that you actually have, which may be a bit awkward at some point.


*smile*

Not so long ago the very same could be said about leathers.

They were earned, and many took offense when folks started wearing them in the scene without going through the same rituals and passage as they did.

That being said, the triskelon wasn't always identified with the BDSM culture until pretty recently it started somewhere. I think Mod One had a wonderful idea - why NOT make your own symbol? There's is plenty of room for more than *just one* - it gives variety (which we ought to all appreciate on some level lol), and yanno someone started doing it with the triskelon, who is to say that you couldn't be the one to start up an alternative? 20 years from now we might be saying to someone:

Ohhh yeahhhhh, I remember when strongnsubmissiv decided to start a different symbol going ... who knew it would be such a universially recognized icon of the BDSM culture way back when?

*smile*

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RE: Lifestyle Giveaways... - 10/12/2004 2:42:35 PM   
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I am often "identified" by people by my keyring. I have a floggerlet and a wicked leather braid/whip on it. The leather braid makes it a bit unwieldy to stuff in my purse every time I get out of the car, so I often have it in hand. I've met others in the lifestyle everywhere from my grocery store to my physical therapists. (YES, my physical therapist IS A SADIST... ) My vanilla housemate thinks the floggerlet is a tassel and the braid is just something to keep me from losing my keys, so it is fairly discreet. They may not be the things that resonate for you to carry or wear.. one thing you might do is have a bracelet of an intricate rope knot. I don't know anyone into rope bondage that can resist commenting upon a good knot. I've struck up conversations with people who have a bracelet that looks a lot like a cuff before. . Most of them are just Goth, but I've talked to a few that were sub.

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RE: Lifestyle Giveaways... - 10/12/2004 4:44:10 PM   
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quote:

one thing you might do is have a bracelet of an intricate rope knot. I don't know anyone into rope bondage that can resist commenting upon a good knot.


Milady Beach-

Since they have banned smoking in Bars in NY, I have met more than the average number of submissives...

I am a sailor, make my living as a rigger, and always have a bit of string handy. To occupy myself when I am behaving at the bar, I'll start trying a turks head- the endless braid 'sailors bracelet' sort of knot. I tie them offhandedly, sometimes actually one handed/left handed, and have even done it while driving. It's also handy for long lines, dull letures, anything that keeps me from a smoke. People will often comment on it, and from time to time, I'll notice someone (usually female) paying very close attention to it, and usually not approching or commenting on it (it's been pointed out to me that as I am wearing chaps, flagging black leather, and have a leather pride pin on my MC jacket, that I may be a bit intimitading to those new to all this). Often times, if I can bring them to a conversation, they are in fact submissive, and I have been accused of using this as some sort of hypnotic technique (which I wasn't, but I am keeping it in mind<g>).


quote:

I've struck up conversations with people who have a bracelet that looks a lot like a cuff before. . Most of them are just Goth, but I've talked to a few that were sub.


<sigh>. Sunday night at the bar, lovely girl wearing a black cuff on one wrist (and it was a cuff, D-ring and all) with a sorta matching watch band on the other, and a choker that looked a lot like a collar to me (when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail!). I sent her and her friend a bottle of wine, and they invited me to share it. We spoke (and they were both engaging conversationalists), but any sort of scene referance went wooshing right by. The girl in the cuffs went to the ladies, and I asked her friend "uhh- the 'bracelets'? -lifestyle or fashion statement?" She grinned. "No, she just thinks they look cool..."

oh well. She did let me bind her hair and take pictures<g>.

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RE: Lifestyle Giveaways... - 10/12/2004 7:02:14 PM   
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quote:


I am a sailor, make my living as a rigger, and always have a bit of string handy. To occupy myself when I am behaving at the bar, I'll start trying a turks head- the endless braid 'sailors bracelet' sort of knot. I tie them offhandedly, sometimes actually one handed/left handed, and have even done it while driving. It's also handy for long lines, dull letures, anything that keeps me from a smoke.


I'm not quite sure why, but I truly suck at knots. My ex sub lived aboard his boat and spent time trying to teach me how to tie. No matter how much I practiced, when it came time to do it on my own I flub it. I used to joke that I needed a set up sub.. one who came in and tied up the sub to be played and left. I can crochet and do macrame but I can't seem to translate either of those to the human body. I finally gave up and decided.. hmm, chain is sexy *smiles*



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RE: Lifestyle Giveaways... - 11/8/2004 1:23:44 PM   
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Well, if you wear handcuff jewelry, you might be able to laugh it off with vanillas and look knowingly at kinkies (not to be confused with twinkies! LOL). It's a thought.

Or, make a bead and knot necklace or bracelet with the pride flag colors. This kind of jewelry is trendy these days, but only those in the lifestyle will get the colors. I believe when putting the colors in a line, you get black, blue, red, black, blue, white, blue, black, blue, black.

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RE: Lifestyle Giveaways... - 11/9/2004 9:55:10 AM   
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quote:

*ahem* i mean... yea.. tragus piercing... anyone who's anyone in the lifestyle knows that if your tragus is pierced, it's a sign of solidarity to the BDSM community. Sure.. been that way for ears... i mean years...

:P

sns



Oh I love This one.. I have had my tra done now for over 10 years. *smiles huge*

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RE: Lifestyle Giveaways... - 11/10/2004 4:49:53 AM   
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i read this forum with great interest. Master has been seeking an "O-Ring" and it has been one of my duties to find one. Where do i find one similar to the one at the end of the first post? i live in Australia, so if anyone can point me in the right direction, it would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks
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