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Electroplay on the nipples - 2/24/2011 8:30:20 PM   
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Before I get flamed.  I know you are not supposed to use a tens unit or other such toy above the waist BUT I am wondering if anyone has used it on the nipples and if so, how does it feel?  Is it pleasing?  Does it feel like anything else (Sucking, biting, rolling between fingers, flicking, licking, etc?) 

Is there a safe way to use a tens unit on both nipples simultaneously?
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RE: Electroplay on the nipples - 2/24/2011 9:26:40 PM   
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honestly i have no idea.
i don't know enough about TENS units to say anything about safety.
there was one time when someone put a TENS pad on one of my tits -- it didn't feel like anything i was previously familiar with. it was like shards of lightning flying through every little bit of tissue; like some kind of creature with claws ripping things up.
it was scary, and generally unpleasant. =p some of that might depend on general boob sensitivity, and mine are really sensitive. but that's just my

of course now i know that many people do not recommend playing with a TENS above the waist so...


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RE: Electroplay on the nipples - 2/25/2011 6:46:18 AM   
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other than Torture purpose, nipple stim is useless...as LillyBoPeeP said, its very unpleasant, and in the hands of an un-experienced person a painfull experience

stim above the waist generally not recommended, but if done right it will not pose any danger, always keep in mind to never let the signal travel across the chest

i have the ET-312 from ErosTek, a two channel unit, in keeping channel A ( - & + ) to one breast and channel B ( - & + ) to the other breast
using sticky pads under the breast and Electro Nipple Clamps on the nipples, the signal only travels withing the breast

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RE: Electroplay on the nipples - 2/25/2011 7:06:42 AM   
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I bought a tens unit and it was money well wasted....The only good thing about it was my slave got a severe beating for suggesting/asking for one

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RE: Electroplay on the nipples - 2/25/2011 8:50:18 AM   
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I did a lot of research work on electrical play for a demo this past weekend.  All of the resources that I read through repeatedly said that a TENS isn't recommended to have the electrodes crossing the heart.  That's really what you're doing if you are placing them on both nipples.  There is a safety risk when using the TENS on breast tissue at all.  The safer placement of the pads is to use them with the least amount of distance between them.

If you want to play with electricity on the nipples, you may be more interested in something like a violet wand.  It's actually kind of fun to watch the arc zap the nipples in just the right way.  Yes, the wand is more expensive, but it sounds more like that is the type of play that you're going for.


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RE: Electroplay on the nipples - 2/25/2011 9:38:21 AM   
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The way I see it there is only one halfway safe way to do it. Concentric electrodes. Picture an electrode for the nipple and then a ring around it to become the other pole.

If you want it on both nipples at the same time the currents must be totally isolated from each other. This is the only way to prevent current passing through the chest, in case one of the "ground" electrodes (rings) loses contact. It's best to use two completely separate units (current sources).

If I have to give more detail than that - DON'T DO IT. Although it's only basic electricity, not that many people understand it fully.

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RE: Electroplay on the nipples - 2/25/2011 5:17:05 PM   
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the ET-312 is the only teen unit with complete seperate channels, both grounds are completly seperate

its why both grounds must be connected together to get stereo mode

and in order for signal to travel the shortest, its why i use sticky pads under the breat and clamps on nipple, the travel is very short

stim above the waist is really not recommended, especially not with home made devices and probes, always use quality pads and probes for best results


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RE: Electroplay on the nipples - 2/26/2011 6:29:22 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: frenchdungeon

the ET-312 is the only teen unit with complete seperate channels, both grounds are completly seperate

its why both grounds must be connected together to get stereo mode


That's not true, there are other units with seperate channels. The ET232 for instance.

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RE: Electroplay on the nipples - 2/26/2011 6:37:08 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: frenchdungeon
other than Torture purpose, nipple stim is useless...as LillyBoPeeP said, its very unpleasant, and in the hands of an un-experienced person a painfull experience

My girl enjoys it at the lower end of the dial. I.e. not as torture.

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RE: Electroplay on the nipples - 2/26/2011 6:40:27 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact


If you want to play with electricity on the nipples, you may be more interested in something like a violet wand.  It's actually kind of fun to watch the arc zap the nipples in just the right way.  Yes, the wand is more expensive, but it sounds more like that is the type of play that you're going for.
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I have to agree with LadyP here. I absolutely adore violet wands, mostly because in the right hands it can vary from a soothing tickle to flashes of agony...well, I am a masochist

I'm a bit of a wuss when it comes to putting my health at risk so TENS is going nowhere near my upper body. But bring on the wand and I'm yours forever! Or at least until the wand is switched off...

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RE: Electroplay on the nipples - 2/26/2011 8:28:50 PM   
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I have to agree with LadyP here. I absolutely adore violet wands, mostly because in the right hands it can vary from a soothing tickle to flashes of agony...well, I am a masochist

They are all sorts of fun, but I think one should always mention that they are a completely different experience.


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RE: Electroplay on the nipples - 2/26/2011 8:36:29 PM   
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very true --
TENS kinda felt like a zappy punch to me when applied to non-boob areas. on the boobs, it was a little horrible; more "shreddy" feeling. ew ew ew.
a violet wand is a surfacey shock, whereas TENS felt "deeper," to me anyway. it makes me giggle uncontrollably, or it can go from "tickle" to "oooowww!" =p people i know who have them use them with tinsle or wartenburg pinwheels, too.

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RE: Electroplay on the nipples - 2/27/2011 6:03:05 AM   
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I always found TENS to be a bit..."meh".

I used one for a while for back spasms, and I found I had to have it cranked up to 11 to even begin to hit the spot. A year or so back a guy I was playing with in a club got his TENS out, and tried it in many places on my body. Apart from a few quick sharp shocks, it very quickly became "meh" again.

But the violet wand is a gift that keeps on giving..

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RE: Electroplay on the nipples - 3/2/2011 1:39:43 PM   
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Was it an actual tens unit or one of the units made for erotic estim? I ask because there`s a bit of a difference. Tens units are generally made not to have unbearably painful as a setting.

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RE: Electroplay on the nipples - 3/2/2011 4:46:21 PM   
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I looked into estim a few years ago. I made my own electrodes, and since I'm a guy, you know where I put them. I'll get back into it someday, but I can tell you it was something. I can also tell you there is a threshold you don't want to cross. I had urethral electrodes, and that can be quite sensitive.

My generator is a Wavetek model 111, which is for electronics, not this. I think it goes up to around 30-40 volta output. It has sine, square and triangle waveshape outputs, and they each feel different at different frequencies. The square and triangle waves "bite" but with the level and the frequency set right, were "awesome" as much as I hate to use the word.

The sine wave which has no harmonics was the most comfortable. It seemed the higher the frequency the higher output level required. It seemed to penetrate a different way though, something that is difficult to even begin to describe.

It still takes two wires to make a circuit, and the urethral electrode was only one. I tried a few things around the glans and wherever, but it all seemed like the contact area was too small. Finally I made some pads. Strips of tape, made into a sheet several widths wide. I stuck a smaller area of multi layer clothe or paper towels to them, smaller than the whole pad of tape, and then wet the tissue/cloth with salted water. Now down there they can be applied to the upper legs or butt, and seem quite safe because it is nowhere near the heart.

This would not be possible for the nipples, and that is a big problem. The most effective electrode is the smallest. Small ones almost anywhere can burn or whatever, this is from not making good enough contact. Well with the pads, all you feel is the small electrode because of the smaller contact area.

Aside from being a floating source, one electrode must be the "ground". It simply must efficiently source or sink the current, while the working end must have really good contact, the smaller it is, the more concentrated the effect. You can equalize the size of the electrodes and have two of course. But on the nipples with one channel the danger is obvious. So chucking that plan for eternity, you are left with the option of providing that "ground" on the front of the body, as close to the "working" electrode(s) as possible.

The magic wand effectively uses the whole body as a ground because it puts our RF. Your body is effectiviely an antenna, and the load it presents is the ground.

Tell you what everyone, if you decide to try some home brew contraption, I urge you to post or send me a drawing of it before you try it. I have been working with electricity and electronics for over thirty years now, and I have one thing to say : You don't want to learn a healthy respect for electricity the hard way.

And when it comes to electrodes, if you saw the movie The Green Mile and understand why that original warden had to leave, you know what I mean. A solid connection is essential.

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RE: Electroplay on the nipples - 3/6/2011 10:51:29 AM   
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Listen up perves, I'll explain it once... And don't bother parroting the "below the waist" b.s. If you can't think for yourself and at least get a rudimentary understanding of electrical safety, then move on to something else. If you hurt yourself or your partner, it's YOUR fault.

Material list:
(2) bipolar male connectors compatible with your multi channel electro-stim unit
(2) plastic clamps. The kind you find on plastic coat hangers.
(4) metal thumb tacks
(2) 1" drywall screws (optional but worthwhile)
8' of 24 gauge Speaker wire

Cut two 4' lengths of wire, attach one connector to each wire. Solder each wire lead to the backside of a tack, just behind the head. Push each tack through the jaws of the plastic clamp so the tack heads are the new jaw contact points. Screw the drywall screw through one leg of the clamp further back so it can be used as a tension adjuster. Do the same to the other wire. You now have two bipolar nipple clamps with adjustable tension jaws. If you do it right, they work great. Unlike regular nipple clamps that become less effective the longer they're worn, these clamps can be adjusted via the stim unit to increase or decrease stimulation depending on what the sub can endure based on their state of arousal.

Hint: As you slowly turn up the level of the stim unit to start the clamps buzzing, have your sub tell you when they can feel the clamps start working. Stop there for a moment and see how the sub responds. It often take a higher setting to overcome the body's initial resistance, but once the current starts to flow, you may have to back down on the setting a little. From there, slight increases in the setting level will cause significant increases in pain, so go easy.


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RE: Electroplay on the nipples - 3/7/2011 10:01:18 PM   
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To Termy, All the accounts that I've heard of people being injured have involved the use of power sources not designed for estim....there are people who certainly manage but it's not something that I'll ever try. So good luck with that.

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RE: Electroplay on the nipples - 3/7/2011 10:07:48 PM   
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To the OP, I can't believe that I didn't think to mention it before, www.smartstim.com is the best resource that I've seen for estim. I highly recommend that you check out the forum there for questions such as yours.

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RE: Electroplay on the nipples - 3/9/2011 3:24:13 AM   
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I recommend the maximum education possible before starting the ZZapper. Understand what an electronic circuit is, and how your body becomes part of it. There is no other way. I don't trust anyone almost. I say. But I am qualified to say, that doesn't mean everyone else is. This is not bullshit. As little as 150mA can kill.

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RE: Electroplay on the nipples - 3/9/2011 9:59:15 AM   
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All the cases of death I've heard of involved spectacular stupidity. For instance the guy who decided to pull out a lamp cord, attach it to each of his wifes nipples and then plug it in.

But that doesn't mean that we are safe as long as we don't pass electricity through the heart and brain. The most common injury tha I've heard of regarding home made/repurposed devices is nerve damage.

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