War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust Poor People Who Carry Cash By Susie Madrak Mar

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pahunkboy -> War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust Poor People Who Carry Cash By Susie Madrak Mar (3/18/2011 5:13:20 PM)
what a dumb idea! ============ War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust Poor People Who Carry Cash By Susie Madrak March 18, 2011 "CAL" -- They're not just crazy, they're evil -- and un-Christian, should they have the audacity to claim otherwise. If only we could force them to live like this, they wouldn't last a week: St. Paul, MN – Minnesota Republicans are pushing legislation that would make it a crime for people on public assistance to have more $20 in cash in their pockets any given month. This represents a change from their initial proposal, which banned them from having any money at all. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article27717.htm

TribeTziyon -> RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust Poor People Who Carry Cash By Susie Madrak Mar (3/18/2011 5:20:13 PM)
We are really trying to get them to Iowa or Wisconsin.

pahunkboy -> RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust Poor People Who Carry Cash By Susie Madrak Mar (3/18/2011 5:21:39 PM)
I bet.

Aylee -> RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust Poor People Who Carry Cash By Susie Madrak Mar (3/18/2011 5:58:00 PM)
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bin/bldbill.php?bill=H0171.1.html&session=ls87 No where in the bill does it say that.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust Poor People Who Carry Cash By Susie Madrak Mar (3/18/2011 6:03:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bin/bldbill.php?bill=H0171.1.html&session=ls87 No where in the bill does it say that. What a surprise! lol To clarify, what it does say is that you can only convert $20 of EBT cards (food stamps on plastic) to cash a month, the rest has to be used directly for merchandise. I dont see why ANY of it should be available in cash.

Aylee -> RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust Poor People Who Carry Cash By Susie Madrak Mar (3/18/2011 6:10:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bin/bldbill.php?bill=H0171.1.html&session=ls87 No where in the bill does it say that. What a surprise! lol To clarify, what it does say is that you can only convert $20 of EBT cards (food stamps on plastic) to cash a month, the rest has to be used directly for merchandise. I dont see why ANY of it should be available in cash. You only need a half galleon of milk and some stores have a min purchase for card use. That is my guess.

flcouple2009 -> RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust Poor People Who Carry Cash By Susie Madrak Mar (3/18/2011 6:12:01 PM)
To clarify your poor reading comprehension they are not speaking of food stamp benefits. They are speaking about a separate cash benefit.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust Poor People Who Carry Cash By Susie Madrak Mar (3/18/2011 6:13:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bin/bldbill.php?bill=H0171.1.html&session=ls87 No where in the bill does it say that. What a surprise! lol To clarify, what it does say is that you can only convert $20 of EBT cards (food stamps on plastic) to cash a month, the rest has to be used directly for merchandise. I dont see why ANY of it should be available in cash. You only need a half galleon of milk and some stores have a min purchase for card use. That is my guess. I could see minimum purchases with stamps because of the hassle of getting reimbursed for them, but with an EBT theres no paperwork. They should have made the law "no minimum purchases of qualified products". As it is the ban on tobacco and alchohol purchases is easily circumvented...once a month.

kalikshama -> RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust Poor People Who Carry Cash By Susie Madrak Mar (3/18/2011 6:17:32 PM)
The first article seemed like such a crazy spin on the actual bill that I went to snopes.com. It's not there yet. I see that the first link has been picked up all over the place. Perhaps I'm giving the bill too much benefit of the doubt, but it seems that the intent is that EBT funds are used for food and living expenses. The only references I saw to $20 in the bill was to cash BACK from the EBT card, which is entirely different than the spin. I know there are EBT food benefits and EBT cash, but I'm not clear about the cash benefits. I have a friend who was homeless who tells me that although EBT food benefits are not supposed to be used for alcohol and tobacco, lots of small retailers down here in South Florida will take it for that.

kalikshama -> RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust Poor People Who Carry Cash By Susie Madrak Mar (3/18/2011 6:19:47 PM)
quote: You only need a half galleon of milk and some stores have a min purchase for card use. That is my guess. There is no minimum purchase with the EBT card.

mnottertail -> RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust Poor People Who Carry Cash By Susie Madrak Mar (3/18/2011 6:21:53 PM)
Yeah, no paperwork for ebt, nor money out of my pocket to have to pay for the transaction as a small business owner thru some card company processor. You buy your child an 'Ernest goes to Camp' DVD for $3 dollars from my store and I pay .50 (fuck! this keyboard doesn't even have a cents key) plus a transaction cost.... You should read up on small business, you don't seem to know anything about anything to do with real world stuff like that.

Aylee -> RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust Poor People Who Carry Cash By Susie Madrak Mar (3/18/2011 6:23:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kalikshama quote: You only need a half galleon of milk and some stores have a min purchase for card use. That is my guess. There is no minimum purchase with the EBT card. I have never used one. I was just taking a guess. I did not even know what they were for some time after I started seeing the signs for them. I figured that it meant "Electronic Bank Transfer."

flcouple2009 -> RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust Poor People Who Carry Cash By Susie Madrak Mar (3/18/2011 6:27:02 PM)
Ron, Your trying to explain things to wilbur. For most merchants the same company that processes their cc/debit transactions process the ebt transactions as well. none of it is free.

mnottertail -> RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust Poor People Who Carry Cash By Susie Madrak Mar (3/18/2011 6:30:30 PM)
Well, fl...I am a realist, I didn't think I would be successful. But I am a man and gonna say it.

kalikshama -> RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust Poor People Who Carry Cash By Susie Madrak Mar (3/18/2011 6:30:59 PM)
Actually, it violates stores' agreements with their credit card processor to have a minimum purchase requirement but most consumers don't know this. http://www.creditcards.com/credit-card-news/merchants-who-violate-credit-card-terms-1275.php

mnottertail -> RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust Poor People Who Carry Cash By Susie Madrak Mar (3/18/2011 6:35:05 PM)
Exactly. But...the sales pitch to the business man is cross-sell upsell, at the very least 20% increase in buy. And everything is based upon what you say at the outset is an average purchase, you slip below that and they nickle and dime you to death. I dont take credit cards, cash or check and your fuckin check better be good or I will put you right the fuck in it. I have never lost a sale, they pull that shit out and I tell it like it is, there is a cash machine next fucking door, you want it......(and they don't walk in here to actually buy with no money somewhere, that is the other side of the business. Hey, motherfucker!!!! As I feel them up...I know you got a goddamn wallet or checkbook around here somewhere......... Anyone who decides to look at the first 30 entries of google, better know, I can actually embarrass your ass, I do this for a living, this is not something I play on TV.

tweakabelle -> RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust Poor People Who Carry Cash By Susie Madrak Mar (3/18/2011 6:39:48 PM)
Why don't they just make it a criminal offence to be down on your luck? That way they could all be locked up and not a burden on good honest God-fearing citizens. Hiring them out as labour for small business would cover the cost of incarceration. That way we'd all be better off - safer streets, more profitable business and lower taxes! Yay! I'll vote for that!

mnottertail -> RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust Poor People Who Carry Cash By Susie Madrak Mar (3/18/2011 6:40:33 PM)
They are trying to do that.

flcouple2009 -> RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust Poor People Who Carry Cash By Susie Madrak Mar (3/18/2011 6:44:01 PM)
The larger merchants don't care, they just see it as the cost of doing business. BUT since most merchants are paying a % of the sale or a transaction fee plus % of the sale I understand smaller merchants trying to keep a minimum sale price. You can actually process a small charge that winds up costing you money.

juliadryad -> RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust Poor People Who Carry Cash By Susie Madrak Mar (3/18/2011 6:46:16 PM)
Madness. Utter madness, and it runs contrary to the republican free enterprise spirit of the poor working hard and pulling themselves out of poverty utter madness.

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