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UK PLC - 3/25/2011 7:34:32 PM   
Aneirin


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It's all an illusion

Just a common man who has dug around a bit.

But if it is all an illusion in the UK, what about elsewhere ?

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RE: UK PLC - 3/26/2011 3:18:00 AM   
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Been there done that, and I agree 250%. It's the same here. It's the same damnear everywhere. What this guy proposes is easier said than done though. I have countless examples, in real life though, there are no links. For example when a case gets thrown out of court, what kind of records would you expect to find ? Not much as that would provide evidence.

The problem here is that tyrants know not of the Law, they are only concerned with statute. DK for example does not believe that a 1985 Chevy Blazer sat in impound for over ten years, but it did. That is because he did not get a certificate of title. Others do not believe all the shit I have not been charged with over the years because of simple, peacful assertions of things that are very much like what this guy says.

But when you do fuck with the system - the corporation, they are very careful not to provide evidence of the fraud. This is the only way to beat them. Because with might, they can take you away, lawfully or not. I know and have known for a long time, even 25 years ago or so I decided basically "fuck them". I never gave a rat's ass about statutory law, all I know is not to harm others. And that means more than just not shooting them and such.

At one time I owned a business. It was a little TV shop on Madison Avenue. Never paid a dime in taxes, and never had a problem. I did not create anything. People came, I fixed their shit, they paid me and all was well. Imagine $70,000 a year in the US back in 1982, tax free. Simple fact is that I never created the paper trail. Like I try to tell people, in the US the tax return form is called a 1040, this is not a reciept, it is not a ledger, IT IS A CONTRACT. EVERY person, or Man or Woman who has kicked the shit out of the IRS in this country did not file that contract. Many here do not understand this.

You know what they tried to get over on me in the last DUI ? "REFUSAL to get a driver's license". I wonder why they take "offense" at that, well actually I don't. Do you know what usually happens to people here who go driving around with a beer between their legs, spinning the tires (only a little to make a hard left), with the tunes cranked up and a joint in their pocket ? Well alot less if you don't have a license, which is as much of a contract as a 1040.

When I was in business, it was not the greatest neighborhood. Nobody fucked with us, you know why ? We had enough firepower to shoot our way out even if surrounded by police. I mean they would've needed a SWAT team. The people knew it and we had no problems.

The way this guy puts it we were Men and/or Women, not PERSONS. Language being what it is, that definition does not mean much today. We knew the cops, I smoked pot right in front of them. When they were in our presence they were not in their official capacity, and neither was I. That is the crux of what this guy is saying.

However things have changed. He speaks of the ignorance of the real Law of the officials of the corporation, and that has gotten worse. There are at least twenty arrest warrants for my PERSON, but when they see me they see a Man. The way you address them. Everything. They are trained to know - in their words "This guy is likely to be a BIG problem in court". They just go away. It's more than the fact that they know they are never going to get another dime out of me. Perhaps a different "jurisdiction" might from time to time, but the locals know, it is over between them and I. Without the profit motive, they will not act against me. Even top cop Simone, I joke around that he would love to catch me but that is not true. He does not want to catch me. I have ALOT of warrants. But I have not created a victim. I have not done wrong.

You may hold members of a corporation responsible for the acts of the PERSONS therein. I drove drinking. Something COULD have happened, but it didn't. I made sure it didn't. I haven't had a collision in 22 years. I haven't had a license (contract) in about 16. One time they insisted on releasing my car to a licensed driver. I got on the cellphone and produced one. That "person" asked when my court date was, I said "never". I assure you I am not posting this from jail.

There is a new municipality, corporation if you will, tht has yet to learn. I absconded with their "PERSON" on January fifth this year. I not only have encountered their "officers" since then and not been remanded, I have not even recieved a notice to appear. They are done. They already fined me the max (I have loaned out more and not gotten it back), there is nothing more to be had, under their own rules, statutes or policies, take your choice of words. I could walk straight in there and tell them who I am and guess what would happen. Absolutely nothing. In fact now they have a tendency to "lose" my records.

I have no need for their contracts. Nothing. I might as well be Randy Weaver for all they know, I just don't sell sawedoff shotguns to their "agenteur". I have no contracts with them, except as established by me to fuck the system and that is going quite well. And I am not done.

Granted, it is a precarious balance which must be maintained, but why not ? At one time in my life I would never even talk to them, but after they gave the wealth of my country away to the elite, it is no holds barred. They don't play fair, therefore neither do I. I will use every tool of deception and manipulation that they do, which includes them all.

You know what matters to me ? I am respected in my community. I rarely bother anyone, I don't hurt people nor do I take from them, except that which has already been taken. I am just taking some of it back and I have their full support. I have the respect of my neighbors, my associates, my coworkers and my employer(s). I don't fucking need anything else.

That is where they don't have me. And when I need the "strawman", the "PERSON", or whatever, I have them on tap. I can get anything I want, without signing a goddamn thing. And we have an agreement, and I respect that agreement. That is how I have lived for decades and that is how I will continue to live until I live no more.

And that is that.

Now you must remove this thread because it is going to make Hunky's head blow right off his neck and RealO will probably have a constant hardon. But this is nothing new to me.

T^T

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RE: UK PLC - 3/26/2011 4:32:23 AM   
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So, it is true then, what humanitarian actions that happen overseas are really just money making exercises, for the countries concerned will extract their payment, most likely from the country concerned, and why the UN, seems to pick and choose where it sees wrong in the world, for that is very simple, a country has nothing a corporation wants, then the corporation is not going to waste it's resources where it will not see a return.

Others joining in with the venture do so because they can get something out of it, or else why of all the United Nations members, 192 in total, is it always the same few that get involved, one might ask if we do, why don't the others, why don't they risk their resources in a potential conflict, but that could be because they will make nothing or very little from it after the big players have taken their tithe.

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RE: UK PLC - 3/26/2011 6:19:11 AM   
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That my friend is the key to being wealthy (in money). In a way it could be said it's true, that mammon rules. I can see the paralells, I can see that those prophets of old were correct. For example when DaVinci described flying machines he was largely correct, only certain details were missing, but the basis of it was correct. But the times in which we live are these.

However, the described armageddon is not the end of the world I believe, it is the end of their world and I can see it. The means of communication even without the internet, the world would shrink at an alarming rate. As it overpopulates even word of mouth will be enough to destroy this force. The force of power is in effect an illusion as the guy said. The fact is that a few hundred thousand elite people cannot keep hold on six billion forever. And that is the "end" as they described. It is the end for them, not us.

We will, in time, gain the wisdom not only to reject and deject them, but to bring on a new form of governence, one that will not be based on the needs of the mammon. And I only use that word because it is easily understood. (not like he said understood lol) The money power is in all of us, for us to accept or reject. I have made my choice and am at peace with it.

Whether it is money, the love or lack thereof that is the root of [most] all evil, it is perpetuated by illusion, for the masses can only be controlled through ignorance and fear. When we as a race shed this, be shall be uncontrollable by such means and will lead our own destiny. It is and has been my conclusion for some time now that the dark ages never ended. We are still in them.

You are aspegic, abnormal, they say you need meds ? Fuck them YOU ARE NORMAL. It is they who are not. Think for yourself - this - is it abnormal to enquire and learn about how the world and society around you works ? Or is it normal to go along blissfully like one of the drones as depicted in the book 1984 ?

And I warn you, I probably know more about that book than those who have read it. Possibly because I have not. Orwell's interpretation, like the portent of the ancient times were based on extant facts and observations. What exists today did not back then. In other words we are getting closer to the truth.

Black Sabbath - Heaven and Hell, these words stick out like a sore planet :

The closer you get to the meaning,
The sooner you know that you're dreaming.

And it goes on and on.

But the fact is that history can only repeat itself for so long, and for right or wrong, I believe that the end is indeed near, but for "them", not "us".

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RE: UK PLC - 3/26/2011 6:48:19 AM   
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I know I am normal, but in the world of legality, I have a label, which can be used and abused how a person sees fit and that cuts both ways. A label defines, according to criteria, criteria is as ever incomplete and open to interpretation.

Armageddon yes, I have seen this before, it is not what many think it is, for armageddon came from religious scripture, you know those rules set down ages ago that say do this or else, which is very much the same as the laws of the lands we live in. Built on a christian foundation why for sure, modelled directly on and improved from there because it works

Methinks armageddon is the time when the vast majority of the world realises religion and there belief in something that might not exist, or may never have done is a waste of time as it serves no other than the hierachy most, perhaps even a construct of man seeking power over others, for sure intellect is not a new phenomenon. Look, a thread here on these boards, religion set to become extinct in nine countries, but I am waiting for it, the established churches are going to make a grab soon, get those people back into belief for their own sakes also known as get them under control for we just can't have free thought, it upsets the status quo.

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RE: UK PLC - 3/26/2011 6:52:46 AM   
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In a way, I think they are preparing the next "miracle" to that end. The show must go on.

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RE: UK PLC - 3/26/2011 7:01:05 AM   
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The trouble with miracles now, is people are more cynical, so it will have to be something momentous to even question the cynics.

Or are we a world looking for something we are missing, ifg played right, this could net more than usual.

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RE: UK PLC - 3/26/2011 3:24:33 PM   
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At this point perhaps we should delve into the difference between cynicism and skepicism.

For some reason witch burning comes to mind. If witches were so powerful and dangerous, why did they allow themselves to be burned at the stake ? Or were they just dangerous to the power structure extant ?

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RE: UK PLC - 3/26/2011 5:12:36 PM   
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If allowed to continue they did more to affect the church status quo than offend any god, if indeed the church at the top believed god could be offended, or even did it exist. For by that time the church had become god, an entity in itself and far more dangerous in real terms than any hypothetical belief in something off world, for it could punish where it liked according to the whim of the oppressor. The church is a firm, hell, even the vatican has it's own bank.

Roman Catholic church, from where did it get it's business model, is the clue in their title, and what of the alternative to religion;politics, where did the political world get it's business model from.

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