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So why can't they involve theirselves in our politics and convey as a people their political takes and thoughts on America?
For the same reasons I don't need the neighbors telling me not to beat my wife, Ron. I might have a lot of mutual interests with them, and be perfectly happy to talk with them outside, and even work with them on a project that benefits us all, but what goes on in my house really ain't their fucking business, now is it?
And there is the problem Rich. Like it or not, the US is a global player. The rest of the world has this much interest in what you are doing, because it does concern us, often even strongly.
Did my last sentence make sense? Fuck, I need sleep.
This is always trotted out. Maybe in Germany, wouldn't know about that, but I don't know anyone outside of these boards who is remotely interested in US politics, or British politics come to think about it.
The idea that we're all runnning round reading The Economist and some book about US relations with the international community while trying to work out the ins and outs of US border control and foreign policy, doesn't ring true from where I'm standing. Perhaps the point is proven by your rock concerts and the like for Obama, whereas when he came here some old fella went to see him to try and lend ten bob off him, and when Bush came he came to a village near me and everyone was mightily pissed off that the roads were blocked and no one could get to the shop for a pint of milk.
What I have noticed, though, is this: whenever you see Americans being interviewed in an English television studio, not politicians but Americans who live here, admittedly they're slightly anglicised as this is their home these days; there seems to be a warmth and an understanding that we don't really get with people from other countries. I don't think it's a common language, more that the middle and upper classes seem to share certain ways of carrying themselves and, ultimately, hold similar aspirations, which I suppose you'd expect as the English and Americans stand at on one side of political philosophy and the continental Europeans on another.
I'm probably making Firmhand's point that we don't know a great deal about the US at all, but, in my view, from what I've read on these boards, I know more about certain US colonial ventures than many posting in the political section of these boards.
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