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slvemike4u -> RE: Brtitish History as Ametica understands it ? (3/31/2011 6:01:54 PM)
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Okay,I am willing to eat a small serving of crow....though I still dispute Paine's inclusion as well as a number of the giants offerd by FDD
Here is wiki's definition of the Founding Fathers and who that encompasses;
The Founding Fathers of the United States of America were political leaders and statesmen who participated in the American Revolution by signing the United States Declaration of Independence, taking part in the American Revolutionary War, establishing the United States Constitution, or by some other key contribution. Within the large group known as the "Founding Fathers", there are two key subsets: the "Signers of the Declaration of Independence" (who signed the United States Declaration of Independence in 1776) and the Framers of the Constitution (who were delegates to the Federal Convention and took part in framing or drafting the proposed Constitution of the United States). Most historians define the "Founding Fathers" to mean a larger group, including not only the Signers and the Framers but also all those who, whether as politicians, jurists, statesmen, soldiers, diplomats, or ordinary citizens, took part in winning American independence and creating the United States of America.[2] American historian Richard B. Morris, in his 1973 book Seven Who Shaped Our Destiny: The Founding Fathers as Revolutionaries, identified the following seven figures as the key Founding Fathers:
Notice the two key subsets....Signers of the Declaration....and the part I neglected Framers of the Constitution....which,of course would include Madison and Hamilton.So there is my small serving of crow.....but FDD went too far in trying to include figures such as Ethan Allen,Henry Knox,John Hanson ,George Clinton and Paine.They appear in no accepted definition of the "Founding Fathers".Giants all.....but not Fathers
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