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Go Daddy lets do sport killing - 4/1/2011 8:35:06 AM

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it's couched in "lets help farmers"

but look at the smile on parsons face.. this isnt about the farmers...

and given that most elephants are considered endangered?

(sleepy.. may be missing something.. but I dont think so...)

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RE: Go Daddy lets do sport killing - 4/1/2011 1:45:36 PM

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The problem is that to a subsistence farmer, a herd of elephants means he has no crops and his family will starve. Elephants eat a lot and require a lot of acreage per. From our point of view the elephants are amazing and awesome animals and we favor them. To the farmer however they are delivering death to his family. I don't think there is a solution that accommodates both and allows the farmer to stay on his land. Traditionally preserves are established to allow the animals to flourish however that requires kicking the uneducated farm families off their land to go starve in the city slums.

Here in the Hudson Valley, the bears which used to be nonexistant have made a comeback. Having them raid my garbage cans is a nuisance. When one mauled and ate a baby up the mountain a few years ago, that was a tragedy. Meeting them on the road means I have no car left and will be lucky to survive. We've had the occasional moose come down from the Adirondacks. We know they will re-establish their grounds here in a few more years. You turn a mountain corner in a car and meet a moose, you don't survive. Do I like moose? Very much. Do I rate them ahead of my life or my kids? No.

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RE: Go Daddy lets do sport killing - 4/1/2011 2:22:07 PM

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it's couched in "lets help farmers"

Funny thing was......... the local villagers stomped down more sorghum than the elephants did. But DesFIP was right, We favor the elephants and prize them. To the farmer it is just a big nuisance animal cutting into the food on his table.

The corn farmers around here put out feeders with CHEAPER soybeans to try to keep the white tail deer from eating the more expensive corn and destroying the cash crop. They encourage deer hunting to keep the population in check. We enjoy eating the venison so it works out well for the humans. I enjoy watching the deer feed and frolic, but I also find that back strap is GOOD, and illegal to purchase or sell in MY state unless you have a special license and business. If you want venison, you have to go out and get it the old fashioned way.

One man's majestic animal is another man's blight and pest, whether on the endangerd list or not. Like the bears that Des spoke of. I've watched black bears in the wild and found it fun and fascinating. But I don't eat bear meat, so I have no interest in killing one.

So the next question is...."Does killing and nuisance animal, and eating it, automatically make that a 'sport killing' as the Greedy titled the thread?" "Would it make any difference if the nuisance animal were trapped, brought to the slaughter house, killed with a hammer, then butchered?" Would you still define that as 'sport killing'?

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