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RE: any old schoolers in the house? - 4/2/2011 4:20:01 PM

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oh i love it..thank you very much..love it!!1

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RE: any old schoolers in the house? - 4/2/2011 5:00:46 PM

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I'm not gonna count you out babe, if I do....I have to count myself out too and that ain't happening.

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RE: any old schoolers in the house? - 4/2/2011 5:16:12 PM

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Yeah, but is it old school? You know, like Chuck Taylor Hi Tops.

Bout TIME someone figgered muh post out.

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RE: any old schoolers in the house? - 4/2/2011 5:35:54 PM

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If you mean old-school D/s as in before the net. Submission was inspired and was almost...almost always sexual submission or there was none at all.

This could be arranged rather quickly by reading signals, acting upon them and in the moment or it could take months of design...before the conquest. The 'sex games'...our fetishes.

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RE: any old schoolers in the house? - 4/2/2011 7:24:12 PM

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Well being old school is not the same as old guard thank fucking god. We see the bigger picture then just play.

It is more a 7 day a week thing then just the weekends. It is based on Honor, Respect and Pride. It is a way of life that holds higher standards then today's new agers can imagine. I am not sure why so many here are so happy to flaunt their lack of knowledge of this lifestyle.

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I thought Old Guard was a sort of el cheapo after shave that the Leather Pants Brigade splash over their cheeks, chest and genitals prior to any real life encounter with a new female submissive.

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RE: any old schoolers in the house? - 4/2/2011 8:05:20 PM

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O'k, lets put the "Old Guard" jokes to rest. While the individual who started the 7 day honor thing was being quite arrogant and I gave one of several back handed responses to it. Let us understand what we're talking about. (Make whatever comments you desire after understanding how wrong we all have been....including the arrogance of myself and the OP.)

The "Old Guard" is a U.S. Army regiment that is a tremendous honor to get assigned to.   It is a parade regiment that performs honors services at the most sacred of the U.S. military's ceremonies. On a daily basis, they guard the Tomb of the Unknowns and provide the honor guard to the bodies of soldiers who have earned the privilege to be buried at Arlington National Cemetery. They provide full military honors to a great many ceremonies beyond these.   While they are a "parade" unit, the "Old Guard" doesn't consist of "parade soldiers"....these are soldiers who have proven themselves to be exceptional and have earned the privilege of serving in the regiment. The duty of honoring our nation's fallen is not taken lightly by their families nor their comrades and these men are tasked with honoring that.

Those with highest honors are given ceremonies by the Old Guard. When you go to a local funeral with full military honors, there is an honor guard.   That honor guard is not comprised of members of the Old Guard, but an all volunteer group and they don't get paid for it.   (This is not because the Old Guard doesn't respect them, but simply because there are too many veterans for the Old Guard to attend every funeral.) They do it to honor a comrade they have never known.

If you ever attend a funeral with full military honors, I ask that you do one thing. Shake the hands and say thank you to each member of the honor guard before the ceremony.   It's not expected of civilians (and I'm saddened by how many veterans don't), but it really does let them know that you think a lot of them.

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RE: any old schoolers in the house? - 4/2/2011 9:25:48 PM

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Well being old school is not the same as old guard thank fucking god. We see the bigger picture then just play.

Um, the OP still has not defined what she meant by "old school". You can't say they're different if you don;t know what one even is.

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It is more a 7 day a week thing then just the weekends. It is based on Honor, Respect and Pride. It is a way of life that holds higher standards then today's new agers can imagine. I am not sure why so many here are so happy to flaunt their lack of knowledge of this lifestyle.

Russell

The only man I met who claimed to be Old Guard showed me considerable lack of respect, up to the point of trying to steal my sub away from me. I'm not saying that the younger folks are paragons of virtue, but neither are all Old Guard types.

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Apparently, I'm the one missing the dominant shoes.

Fake.

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RE: any old schoolers in the house? - 4/2/2011 9:35:31 PM

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My shoes are extremely dominant. They blister me constantly as punishment for my vanity, and force me to conform to their idea of how a submissive's foot should be shaped.. They are both dominant and terribly sadistic.

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RE: any old schoolers in the house? - 4/2/2011 9:36:14 PM

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MB, sounds to me like they're foot fetishists.

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RE: any old schoolers in the house? - 4/2/2011 9:42:57 PM

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Fake.

I know.

I am still not considering the dominant sneakers though. I'd look like a duck at my shoe size, lol. M

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RE: any old schoolers in the house? - 4/2/2011 11:29:15 PM

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Well being old school is not the same as old guard thank fucking god. We see the bigger picture then just play.

It is more a 7 day a week thing then just the weekends. It is based on Honor, Respect and Pride. It is a way of life that holds higher standards then today's new agers can imagine. I am not sure why so many here are so happy to flaunt their lack of knowledge of this lifestyle.

Russell

Yeah. I was at a munch a few days ago where a panel of old leather folk was trying to pitch this company line. I had to bite my tongue to keep from just drilling them. Just another way of shouting how right their way was and how every one else does things wrong.
What an F'ing crock.

I dunno bout old school, but Reagan was prez when I whipped my first chick. Too bad I haven't learned shit in all the years since huh? Maybe I shoulda joined an Old Guard group...

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RE: any old schoolers in the house? - 4/4/2011 5:47:27 PM

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I can't speak to what old guard means in the military since I was speaking of bdsm OG.

Old Guard was started by a group of gay black man that served in the World War and found the lifestyle in Europe. They came back here to the US and continued forming a BDSM based on a sort of military order structure. You started as a sub and learned to serve until you earned your leather, this is also one of the start of the leatherman.

I doubt that most of the answers here were either done with honor or with any real knowledge. Oh and before the net people did know more then just bedroom M/s. Though at the moment it seems that it is just easier to be like children that think they know it all.

If that sound like a person that understands more then chatroom D/s it is because I do.

Russell

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RE: any old schoolers in the house? - 4/4/2011 6:06:15 PM

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If that sound like a person that understands more then chatroom D/s it is because I do.

Russell

Actually, it sounds like a repeat of previous arrogance.

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RE: any old schoolers in the house? - 4/4/2011 7:02:26 PM

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Actually, it sounds like a repeat of previous arrogance.

Bingo. Gotta love people who make brainless assumptions. Such a brave thing to do considering how silly it makes them look.

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RE: any old schoolers in the house? - 4/4/2011 8:11:26 PM

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If that sound like a person that understands more then chatroom D/s it is because I do.

Russell

Bwhahahahahahaha! OMFG! ROFLMFAO! You are so funny!

Since you're a self-proclaimed "old-guard" expert, let me teach you how we do it in the new guard. But first, you'll have to send me tribute. I'm not going to educate you for free.

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RE: any old schoolers in the house? - 4/4/2011 8:58:14 PM

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I can't speak to what old guard means in the military since I was speaking of bdsm OG.

Old Guard was started by a group of gay black man that served in the World War and found the lifestyle in Europe. They came back here to the US and continued forming a BDSM based on a sort of military order structure. You started as a sub and learned to serve until you earned your leather, this is also one of the start of the leatherman.

I doubt that most of the answers here were either done with honor or with any real knowledge. Oh and before the net people did know more then just bedroom M/s. Though at the moment it seems that it is just easier to be like children that think they know it all.

If that sound like a person that understands more then chatroom D/s it is because I do.

Russell

- Not that it matters one way or the other. But, wow.. that is some type of next level knowledge.
You know, Jill Carter is widely recognized as a person extremely knowledgable of the black leather community, being that she is a woman of color and has about 40 years experience within the black leather community. While she states, (common knowledge, here) that the leather community was created by 'gay bikers returning from WWII', she also states (I'm quoting her verbatim), "scant evidence exists regarding the history of people of color within the early stages of the leather community."
I suppose it is true, "you learn something new everyday."

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RE: any old schoolers in the house? - 4/4/2011 9:12:13 PM

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I guess we have no idea what the OP meant because the dialogue here seems to have driven her away.

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RE: any old schoolers in the house? - 4/5/2011 3:22:50 AM

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Ok, footwear, humor and the fact many can't define old school from old guard aside. I'll bite. Yes, there are several old school leatherheart types on these forums. Protocol and the optional community minded spirit is still abundant around here. What's on your mind?

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RE: any old schoolers in the house? - 4/5/2011 9:49:07 AM

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ORIGINAL: SirRussellP

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Status: offline I can't speak to what old guard means in the military since I was speaking of bdsm OG.

Old Guard was started by a group of gay black man that served in the World War and found the lifestyle in Europe. They came back here to the US and continued forming a BDSM based on a sort of military order structure. You started as a sub and learned to serve until you earned your leather, this is also one of the start of the leatherman.

I doubt that most of the answers here were either done with honor or with any real knowledge. Oh and before the net people did know more then just bedroom M/s. Though at the moment it seems that it is just easier to be like children that think they know it all.

If that sound like a person that understands more then chatroom D/s it is because I do.

Russell

Excuse My french, but bullshit.

You're not the only person on these boards who was involved in M/s before they were on the net. I've got no problem respecting those who are senior leathermen than Me, but that doesn't mean that I'm not going to stand up and tell someone when they are trying to pull the high and mighty crap.

Yes, there was a time that a person could only earn their leathers if they fit into certain categories. They did have to serve under someone else first. Yes, they had to be men. That was sixty years ago. Times have changed since sixty years ago and there isn't a soul on these boards (that I'm aware of) who has been doing wiitwd that long. If you have, you look damn good for eighty.

If you actually preferred the days that straight people couldn't adopt a leather lifestyle or that the only Masters were men, I'm more than happy to tell you that you can have it. Thankfully, I don't run into such attitudes in the leather community and I am afforded the same respect as any other person who has their place in it. I can promise you that the leather that I earned is just as valuable to Me as yours are to you.

With that, I will wish you a good day and give My best regards to you and your household.

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RE: any old schoolers in the house? - 4/5/2011 10:49:40 AM

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Sir RussellP:
If that sound like a person that understands more then chatroom D/s it is because I do.

Muttling:
Actually, it sounds like a repeat of previous arrogance.

If we were present during the inception and eventual conception of what is termed “Old Guard’ we could speak with some measure of knowledge and authority, of course we would be somewhere in our mid 80’s to early 90’s and our memory most likely would be a bit dim. I question the value in discussing what we don’t actually know or can prove?

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