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Sanity -> RE: CBO and the budget deal (4/14/2011 11:43:22 AM)
You think thats really the deal? Wanna buy a bridge, cheap? Its made of real gold. quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Uh, my opinion would be that upon damn near the very day of his taking office, he said he will not pursue any actions against W. That it was time to begin healing the country. It made the fucking TV and newspapers. Surprised you missed it, as politically astute as you are.

mnottertail -> RE: CBO and the budget deal (4/14/2011 11:47:08 AM)
Dude, somebody is gonna slap you right upside the fuckin head with a slew of articles from when he said it, and you will look like a fuckin fool, and you are bringing this on your own head. If you really need to taunt me so bad, at least don't do it on something that is widely available and widely known, like that.

Sanity -> RE: CBO and the budget deal (4/14/2011 11:50:06 AM)
I am not disputing that was the reason he gave, mnot... I am disputing that it was the real reason. quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Dude, somebody is gonna slap you right upside the fuckin head with a slew of articles from when he said it, and you will look like a fuckin fool, and you are bringing this on your own head. If you really need to taunt me so bad, at least don't do it on something that is widely available and widely known, like that.

luckydawg -> RE: CBO and the budget deal (4/14/2011 12:11:05 PM)
Sanity, some folks are so slow minded they accept what Politicians say at face value....

Sanity -> RE: CBO and the budget deal (4/14/2011 12:22:21 PM)
Back to the topic: quote: (Opinion) "If progressives ran the world" It was spitting rain outside the Capitol, but the Congressional Progressive Caucus opted not to move indoors for the launch of its new spending plan, “The People’s Budget.” “We’re going to call forth the sun!” Rep. Keith Ellison, the Minnesota Democrat who is co-chair of the caucus, proclaimed theatrically. His colleagues huddled under umbrellas and the wind knocked their promotional poster from its easel. Ellison and the progressives probably would have a better chance of influencing the weather than they would passing their budget, which they are floating as an alternative to the House Republican bid and President Obama’s plan. Among the highlights: A $4 trillion tax increase over 10 years. An increase in the top tax rate to 49 percent. A $2.3 trillion cut in defense spending – and an increase in domestic spending. Oh, and they would revive the “public option” to offer government-run health care. Even the most starry-eyed of the progressives know the proposal is as much of a non-starter as Paul Ryan’s House Republican plan, which requires only spending cuts and actually reduces taxes. The real target is President Obama, who the progressives fear will capitulate and negotiate a deal that cuts heavily into entitlements and social programs. “It’s about time we started joining with our allies and marching and protesting and going to the White House!” exhorted Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.) “You get my drift?” Full text here No, not everybody is perfectly pleased with Obama, despite all the insistence to the contrary

tazzygirl -> RE: CBO and the budget deal (4/14/2011 12:29:08 PM)
Who is insisting we are "perfectly pleased"?

DomKen -> RE: CBO and the budget deal (4/14/2011 12:43:56 PM)
Yeah I want to meet these people.

DomKen -> RE: CBO and the budget deal (4/14/2011 12:46:25 PM)
oh and lest Sanity think he has successfully changed the subject, no one has ever disputed Wilson's statements. There was never any yellowcake deal or even attempted deal involving Iraq. Here's Bush saying there was no WMD's in Iraq. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSN-Kku_rFE

Sanity -> RE: CBO and the budget deal (4/14/2011 6:25:50 PM)
You got me, I thought that maybe your BDS hijack was over ken. I know, silly me. quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen oh and lest Sanity think he has successfully changed the subject, no one has ever disputed Wilson's statements. There was never any yellowcake deal or even attempted deal involving Iraq. Here's Bush saying there was no WMD's in Iraq. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSN-Kku_rFE

Sanity -> RE: CBO and the budget deal (4/14/2011 6:31:28 PM)
It was slave mike who wrote something to the effect of, only popeye and myself were unhappy with BO quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Who is insisting we are "perfectly pleased"?

tazzygirl -> RE: CBO and the budget deal (4/14/2011 6:36:43 PM)
I think he may have meant the two of you do nothing but criticize every move the man makes, and even some before he makes them. No one is totally happy with anything anyone does.

Sanity -> RE: CBO and the budget deal (4/14/2011 6:50:52 PM)
You really think so? Sure about that? [:D] http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3631299 I think youre giving him way to much credit quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl I think he may have meant the two of you do nothing but criticize every move the man makes, and even some before he makes them. No one is totally happy with anything anyone does.

tazzygirl -> RE: CBO and the budget deal (4/14/2011 7:02:28 PM)
Mike enjoys the subtle art of sarcasm. I do at times, but I prefer reality. Pops post... quote: And why is that? Is it because,.....he's doing such a great job? Your response... quote: Yeah popeye, everyone agrees that Obama is doing a GREAT job! [;)][:D] Mike's response to you... quote: Well,everyone save you and sailor-boy [:)] All I see is sarcasm from all of you. At least Mike seems to get it. Now you wish to make an issue of it, Sanity. If you take Mike's posts at face value, then I am afraid I will have to take yours the same way. Its very nice of you to believe Obama is doing a great job, as you indicate above. I would tend to disagree though.

slvemike4u -> RE: CBO and the budget deal (4/14/2011 7:10:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity It was slave mike who wrote something to the effect of, only popeye and myself were unhappy with BO quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Who is insisting we are "perfectly pleased"? I don't care what I said,how I phrased it,are you really going to try to make a case that my intention was to literally state that only you two...and you two only were unhappy with President Obama Are you really actually going to try to go with that preposterous proposition? Question sanity...is it me that you think is an idiot....or everyone else here? Understand I could give a shit as to your answer....just mildly curious .

DomKen -> RE: CBO and the budget deal (4/15/2011 9:36:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity You got me, I thought that maybe your BDS hijack was over ken. I know, silly me. quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen oh and lest Sanity think he has successfully changed the subject, no one has ever disputed Wilson's statements. There was never any yellowcake deal or even attempted deal involving Iraq. Here's Bush saying there was no WMD's in Iraq. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSN-Kku_rFE Just making shit up as usual. You were the one who started making claims about Iraq. I simply proved you were wrong. In the future if you don't want your wrong claims corrected, don't make them!

slvemike4u -> RE: CBO and the budget deal (4/15/2011 9:59:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Mike enjoys the subtle art of sarcasm. I do at times, but I prefer reality. Pops post... quote: And why is that? Is it because,.....he's doing such a great job? Your response... quote: Yeah popeye, everyone agrees that Obama is doing a GREAT job! [;)][:D] Mike's response to you... quote: Well,everyone save you and sailor-boy [:)] All I see is sarcasm from all of you. At least Mike seems to get it. Now you wish to make an issue of it, Sanity. If you take Mike's posts at face value, then I am afraid I will have to take yours the same way. Its very nice of you to believe Obama is doing a great job, as you indicate above. I would tend to disagree though. As usual,nicely done tazzy...imagine my surprise when I learned that not everybody,save sailor-boy and sanity,is pleased with the C in C.

popeye1250 -> RE: CBO and the budget deal (4/15/2011 10:07:31 AM)
Didn't Oblunder say something about the rich "wanting" to pay their fair share of taxes? I wonder if he meant Charlie Rangle, Tim Geithner and Tom Daschle?

Hippiekinkster -> RE: CBO and the budget deal (4/16/2011 1:23:26 AM)
"What was supposed to be a routine vote in the House -- to knock down an amendment authored by conservative Republicans -- turned into pandemonium on the House floor Friday, as Democrats tried to jam the plan through, and hang it around the GOP's necks. The vote was on the Republican Study Committee's alternative budget -- a radical plan that annihilates the social contract in America by putting the GOP budget on steroids. Deeper tax cuts for the wealthy, more severe entitlement rollbacks. Normally something like that would fail by a large bipartisan margin in either the House or the Senate. Conservative Republicans would vote for it, but it would be defeated by a coalition of Democrats and more moderate Republicans. But today that formula didn't hold. In an attempt to highlight deep divides in the Republican caucus. Dems switched their votes -- from "no" to "present." Panic ensued. In the House, legislation passes by a simple majority of members voting. The Dems took themselves out of the equation, leaving Republicans to decide whether the House should adopt the more-conservative RSC budget instead of the one authored by Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan. As Dems flipped to present, Republicans realized that a majority of their members had indeed gone on the record in support of the RSC plan -- and if the vote closed, it would pass. That would be a slap in the face to Ryan, and a politically toxic outcome for the Republican party. So they started flipping their votes from "yes" to "no." In the end, the plan went down by a small margin, 119-136. A full 172 Democrats voted "present." Moments after it failed, RSC Chairman Jim Jordan took to Facebook. "Our Republican Study Committee (RSC) balanced budget came within 18 votes of passing on the House Floor today," he wrote. "I am disappointed we did not win, but this is the closest we have ever been to passing our balanced budget. I am motivated to keep fighting to balance the budget and begin paying down our national debt." Talking Points memo, 4/15/2011 Ryan's Plan: Let the poor die, buy more bombs! Fucking rethugs sit on dead rabid porcupines once again.

joether -> RE: CBO and the budget deal (4/16/2011 1:53:55 AM)
I find it funny none of the suppose 'fiscal conservatives' are angry at what the House Republicans did recently with the budget bill. You would think a group of people that are the 'Anti-Wasteful Spending' Crusaders would be against the bill, or at the very least, complain up one side of the street and down the other about. Not a peep! That's right, how much 'taxpayer' dollars went towards creating that bill and pushing it through the House? Since, in or for this bill to NOT be a waste of taxpayer money, it has to pass the Senate and the President. The likelyhood that this will happen is nonexistant at best, and laughable at worst. So, This bill will fail in the Democratic controlled Senate. And all those Republicans who have been bitching about Democrats wasting taxpayer money, have just wasted a pile themselves on pushing a bill based and built full of GOP ideaology and fantasy (read: what are they shooting up their arms?). So, once again, Republicans plainly demonstrate they lack any real prinicples to 'put their money where their mouth is'. And 'fiscal conservatives' Republicans are only 'fiscal conservative' it seems, when they are accusing Democrats of 'wasting money' on things like....seniors....children....and even Middle Class America...

rulemylife -> RE: CBO and the budget deal (4/16/2011 4:10:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 Didn't Oblunder say something about the rich "wanting" to pay their fair share of taxes? I wonder if he meant Charlie Rangle, Tim Geithner and Tom Daschle? How about Bill Gates and Warren Buffett? They both made that comment.

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