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tazzygirl -> RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants with her own body" (4/17/2011 12:25:09 AM)

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I agree! I think I've just changed my mind.. now, I'm in favor of legalized prostitution. Regulate it, tax it, stop bogging down the legal system/law enforcement with busting hookers. Free them up to go after the real criminals.

{Spoken with tongue firmly in cheek}


I actually am in favor of legalizing it.



TheRaptorJesus -> RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants with her own body" (4/17/2011 12:25:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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You can't seriously be this dense.

The freedom to have dominion over what is put into my body. To make decisions for myself about what I deem safe for my own personal consumption.

No one is talking about lawlessness and freedom to do whatever you want except YOU. So stop.


Talk about dense. You need to read back a few pages and discover where I said I didnt give a flying fig what you did within your own home.

Now, when did anyone give you the right to tell me what to do on a message board?

I do believe the only one who has that "right" is asleep at the moment since I hear him snoring.

Now, you do have the right to block me if you dont like what I post. Otherwise... [:D]


And you must have missed the part where it was stated multiple times that public intoxication is illegal and I haven't any problem with that.

Reading comprehension is your friend... and if it is not your friend then it is an enemy to be feared... it is truly and enemy.

At the end of the day, I want harmless substances legal for my personal enjoyment and substances that will kill you legal to trim the herd and strengthen the strain of the human gene. It isn't asking much.



tazzygirl -> RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants with her own body" (4/17/2011 12:27:09 AM)

Since this is the first time I have responded to your posts in any fashion... what the hell are you on about? Are you pissy because I didnt address you specifically? Or are you just looking for an argument?

Because i just looed back and here is our exchange.


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ORIGINAL: TheRaptorJesus

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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so you feel my right to do what i want with my own body and life should be restricted based on the ill effects of what i want to do? interesting concept that, a right that can only be exercised when its good for you. and who, pray tell, is to determine what is good for me and what is not?


And if someone gets high off of killing other people? Why stop at what you can do to just yourself... murder should be perfectly legal.

Nice Republicans-Trying-To-Ban-Gay-Marriage logic.

Hurr durr... if two men can marry then why not a man and a turtle?!

Apples are not orange. Ingesting a substance =/= directly influencing the life of another person.



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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

It doesnt affect me if they do it within their own home, you are correct. It does affect me when they leave that home under the influence.



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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Its not hard to grasp at all. And that isnt what is being discussed at the moment.

This is...

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so you feel my right to do what i want with my own body and life should be restricted based on the ill effects of what i want to do?



Now, show me where I disagreed with you? Because I see many times I did agree with you.



HannahLynHeather -> RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants with her own body" (4/17/2011 12:29:10 AM)

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Have at it sweetcheeks.
thank you, i will.

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But dont complain when others tell you no.
but i will, long and loud. nobody has the right to tell me what i can or cannot do with my own life.

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You made that decision. You pay the consequences.
well yes, that's rather obvious. i have always accepted responsibility for the consequences for my actions.

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Sadly, someone else may pay them too.
in which case, i will pay for that fact also.

its clear that you just don't get the concept, its beyond you for whatever reason. i won't waste any more time trying to explain it to someone who just doesn't want to understand the obvious. have a good night, its been an entertaining discussion.

hannah lynn



TheRaptorJesus -> RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants with her own body" (4/17/2011 12:30:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Since this is the first time I have responded to your posts in any fashion... what the hell are you on about? Are you pissy because I didnt address you specifically? Or are you just looking for an argument?



I'm perturbed that you are trying to create an argument for the people on the other site that is easy to combat while no one has mentioned any of the things you keep on say.

You're talking in circles on a course that no one really set upon.

And yes, I'm awfully ornery that you didn't address me personally.



tazzygirl -> RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants with her own body" (4/17/2011 12:31:57 AM)

Read my edit. Again, no one is arguing the points you are bringing up.



HannahLynHeather -> RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants with her own body" (4/17/2011 12:31:58 AM)

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I agree! I think I've just changed my mind.. now, I'm in favor of legalized prostitution. Regulate it, tax it, stop bogging down the legal system/law enforcement with busting hookers. Free them up to go after the real criminals.

{Spoken with tongue firmly in cheek}
and why should it be illegal for a woman to ask for money in return for sex? its her body and her life.



TheRaptorJesus -> RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants with her own body" (4/17/2011 12:33:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather

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I agree! I think I've just changed my mind.. now, I'm in favor of legalized prostitution. Regulate it, tax it, stop bogging down the legal system/law enforcement with busting hookers. Free them up to go after the real criminals.

{Spoken with tongue firmly in cheek}
and why should it be illegal for a woman to ask for money in return for sex? its her body and her life.


Especially when legalizing and regulating prostitution has shown to make it safer for both prostitutes and their clients.



tazzygirl -> RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants with her own body" (4/17/2011 12:33:52 AM)

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I'm perturbed that you are trying to create an argument for the people on the other site that is easy to combat while no one has mentioned any of the things you keep on say.



On the other site? What other site?

Im going with the idea that you meant the "other side".

And its because of my profession that I hold such strong beliefs. Is that surprising?



TheRaptorJesus -> RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants with her own body" (4/17/2011 12:37:07 AM)

It's 3:36... other side... saying. Typing with talons is rough.

Because of my profession I hold strong beliefs too. Sobriety is career suicide.



tazzygirl -> RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants with her own body" (4/17/2011 12:40:02 AM)

A walk through the morgue can do strange things to your belief systems sometimes. Working a night in the ER even more so.



HannahLynHeather -> RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants with her own body" (4/17/2011 12:41:10 AM)

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Especially when legalizing and regulating prostitution has shown to make it safer for both prostitutes and their clients.
i agree, but am fundamentally opposed to any regulation of it. its nobody's business but the girl's.

hannah lynn



imperatrixx -> RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants with her own body" (4/17/2011 1:09:51 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
You need to read back a few pages and discover where I said I didnt give a flying fig what you did within your own home.


To clarify - does that include smoking crack?



blacksword404 -> RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants with her own body" (4/17/2011 1:27:36 AM)


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather

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It is all well and good to advocate for personal freedoms....and I would join you in that,but there is a line in the sand where society,if it intends to remain cohesive and functioning ,can not afford to condone self destructiveness in that pursuit.
you are either free, or you are not. there is no halfway, being a bit free is like being a bit pregnant.

hannah lynn

Quite frankly my dear that is just so much utter bullshit.If you want true unencumbered freedom...best go find yourself one lonely damm mountaintop...or a deserted island somewhere....as long as you are living as one part of a greater collective(re:society) than there will always be laws....and thank god for that.



I can see her point clearly. There was a thread a while back with a woman who had about 9 or so abortions. Not sure on the exact number. But she finally decided to carry a child to term. There was some who thought she should not have had so many abortions( and her reasons were fucked up). But its legal and she can have as many abortions as she wants. For any reason. If she decided to flip a coin and abort if it comes up heads then she can. It's her body. You can't abridged that.

Laws are to try to keep you from harming others. If you want to drink or do drugs and you are a legal adult, why should the government stop you?



imperatrixx -> RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants with her own body" (4/17/2011 2:38:27 AM)

Sorry, I missed this post earlier.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Most people who are sober dont stumble.



Sure they do.

http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1724522,00.html

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ac/20110126/tr_ac/7705386_will_texting_while_walking_become_illegal_in_new_york_state

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f68/bill-introduced-illinois-ban-text-messaging-while-crossing-street-59790/

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A person ingesting a substance categorically can not kill anyone else. What a person does under the influence of that substance can. It's a fine distinction but a necessary one.


What a person does after ingesting a substance is exactly what I am speaking of. You are trying to seperate the two. Splitting hairs isnt a distinction.. its splitting hairs.


It's not splitting hairs. The danger to others doesn't come from the substance itself, it is only present when the intoxicated person interacts with others.



thishereboi -> RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants with her own body" (4/17/2011 4:58:22 AM)

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But when you get into the uglier things, like crack, or suicide, it doesn't carry over. Then, a person doesn't have the right to do what they want with their own body, their body becomes public property. So while I don't support crack use, I felt I had to pick the worst one, for the sake of showing that contrast.


You could have picked heroin and it still would have been a stupid comparison. As several people have pointed out, they are two different situations.



thishereboi -> RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants with her own body" (4/17/2011 5:07:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather

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Quite frankly my dear that is just so much utter bullshit.If you want true unencumbered freedom...best go find yourself one lonely damm mountaintop...or a deserted island somewhere....as long as you are living as one part of a greater collective(re:society) than there will always be laws....and thank god for that.
sorry, yours is the bullshit. you go ahead and make your laws and take comfort in them. and i will continue to ignore them and find freedom in that.

hannah lynn



I have an ex girl friend in florida with that same attitude. I think she should be due for parole soon.



HannahLynHeather -> RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants with her own body" (4/17/2011 5:17:39 AM)

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I have an ex girl friend in florida with that same attitude. I think she should be due for parole soon.
that's the risk one runs to be free in an unfree society.



tazzygirl -> RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants with her own body" (4/17/2011 7:39:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Most people who are sober dont stumble.


Texting has become an addiction in this country as well. Let their battery die and they walk just fine. We cant cure stupidity. [;)]





tazzygirl -> RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants with her own body" (4/17/2011 7:40:21 AM)


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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather

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I have an ex girl friend in florida with that same attitude. I think she should be due for parole soon.
that's the risk one runs to be free in an unfree society.


Stomping your foot and complaining wont gain you the freedom you seek.



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