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Kana -> RE: Writing Lines as Punishment (4/16/2011 8:56:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lovelyesme i have never had to do this. i wonder if it will make me as wet as standing in the corner. or spankings.i love to write, and he hates to read so i may never find out. i do understand, of course, my enjoyment is not the point. Still..... esme Bah, He doesn't even have to read it. The point is to teach/instruct her, not him. Plus, there is nothing better than seeing the look on her face when she hands you the hours of lines you've dropped on her, and you scan em quickly, do a quick audit, then throw em away w/o reading them. Trust me, it's bloody awesome

NuevaVida -> RE: Writing Lines as Punishment (4/16/2011 9:20:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt That sounds like way to much. Although I am sure he enjoyed reading them, he probably had no idea (or didn't care) how long it took you to write them. He knew. He didn't care. He read them all, though, and if it seemed my work had slacked, I'd hear about it.

NuevaVida -> RE: Writing Lines as Punishment (4/16/2011 9:25:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kana Bah, He doesn't even have to read it. The point is to teach/instruct her, not him. Plus, there is nothing better than seeing the look on her face when she hands you the hours of lines you've dropped on her, and you scan em quickly, do a quick audit, then throw em away w/o reading them. Trust me, it's bloody awesome If he had done that, what it would have taught me would be to not put as much effort into it next time around. When I had to do my 1500 lines, I forgot to bring them with me when we next met up. He said "Eh, no biggy." When I got home, I took a picture of all the pages laid out, numbered, and sent it to him. He thought it was hilarious that I had to prove that I did it. But he had such a "meh" attitude about it, the next time he told me to write lines, I didn't. He never asked about them, so I basically bought myself a luxurious night of sleep (he routinely had me doing things for him that would take all night). Still, it bugged me that I wasn't honest about it, but I was exhausted by then.

Asherscorp1 -> RE: Writing Lines as Punishment (4/16/2011 11:11:15 PM)
I am by nature a writer. I have three journals, am majoring in journalism, have taken multiple writing courses and write stories for fun. So ... punishment involving writing would be absurd usually, although Master could give me a subject I am passionless about and make me write in-depth about it. That would be awful. Anyway, I once took the initiative after being particularly unreceptive to Master's direction in cleaning the house and wrote out two pages of lines, "I will clean as Master instructs me to. I will learn eagerly." He was so pleased with it that the pages are still under the very computer I am typing on now and He pulls them out occaisionally to read and grin at.

Handcuffs69 -> RE: Writing Lines as Punishment (4/17/2011 5:04:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Asherscorp1 I am by nature a writer. I have three journals, am majoring in journalism, have taken multiple writing courses and write stories for fun. So ... punishment involving writing would be absurd usually, although Master could give me a subject I am passionless about and make me write in-depth about it. That would be awful. Anyway, I once took the initiative after being particularly unreceptive to Master's direction in cleaning the house and wrote out two pages of lines, "I will clean as Master instructs me to. I will learn eagerly." He was so pleased with it that the pages are still under the very computer I am typing on now and He pulls them out occasionally to read and grin at. As a humanities student, I am no stranger to essays. However, I think it would be very interesting to be set an essay to write that deals with my feelings about a particular subject, rather than a purely descriptive/analytical piece which is what I normally write. When I say interesting, however, I do not necessarily mean enjoyable. It would still be a punishment, particually if the sub was given 'unpleasant' instructions until the task was completed. (I.e: Stress Positions, Nipple Clamps, gagged/Plugged, boduily fluids in mouth)

NorthernGent -> RE: Writing Lines as Punishment (4/17/2011 5:06:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Handcuffs69 Hello there, Have any Subs or Dom/mes ever used Written tasks as a method of punishment? Any good stories, horrible experiences? Not for punishment, no. But I do think writing is an interesting and useful way to explore someone's personality. For a start, some people prefer to communicate through writing rather than speaking, so in this respect it can be useful for someone to gather her thoughts and communicate them. Also, give someone a blank canvass and ask them to just write, there doesn't need to be a subject matter, and you'll find out an awful lot about what makes that person tick. What she writes is irrelvant; how she approaches it will inform.

XXMystiqueXX -> RE: Writing Lines as Punishment (4/17/2011 6:54:24 AM)
One time.......I had to write a 1,000 NUMBERED word essay on why being a SAM was not a good idea no matter where we were or what other submissives were doing at the time. I was to use a dictionary <to prevent me from being redundant> and ck punctuation and spelling as I went. If there was a mistake, I was told it would be a do~over. Thank goodness that was the ONLY time that happened. No fun.

porcelaine -> RE: Writing Lines as Punishment (4/17/2011 7:15:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NuevaVida But he had such a "meh" attitude about it, the next time he told me to write lines, I didn't. He never asked about them, so I basically bought myself a luxurious night of sleep (he routinely had me doing things for him that would take all night). Still, it bugged me that I wasn't honest about it, but I was exhausted by then. His color me bad twin has done the same. Gosh these things just flow don't they? laughs The first time it happened was during the comparison essay i had to do on leadership styles. i wasn't privy to the benefits of coffee consumption at that time and when he was seemingly oblivious to my effort and time investment (a stat report) that didn't go over very well. Mind you i kept my spool with him, but that baby unraveled later on. As you noted, i felt unappreciated and a little put off since he always reiterated how much he enjoyed reading my ideas. i felt a little stunted on the creative end after that. And we finally discussed the issue and i told him pointedly that i didn't find pleasure in the tasks due to his attitude. He apologized. Namaste, ~porcelaine

NuevaVida -> RE: Writing Lines as Punishment (4/17/2011 11:55:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: porcelaine His color me bad twin has done the same. Gosh these things just flow don't they? laughs The first time it happened was during the comparison essay i had to do on leadership styles. i wasn't privy to the benefits of coffee consumption at that time and when he was seemingly oblivious to my effort and time investment (a stat report) that didn't go over very well. Mind you i kept my spool with him, but that baby unraveled later on. As you noted, i felt unappreciated and a little put off since he always reiterated how much he enjoyed reading my ideas. i felt a little stunted on the creative end after that. And we finally discussed the issue and i told him pointedly that i didn't find pleasure in the tasks due to his attitude. He apologized. Namaste, ~porcelaine Oh I was reliant on coffee consumption, lol. It kept me alive, I think, from so much sleep deprivation. But it really is amazing how the slightest, unintentional response to something we've worked our asses off for, can change everything, whether punishment or simply an assignment. Human nature requires certain efforts to be acknowledged. When not acknowledged or fed, whether intentionally or not, motivation going forward can be completely killed. And when motivation dies, I'd say the original intention has backfired.

avena -> RE: Writing Lines as Punishment (4/17/2011 12:57:26 PM)
With D, no, I've never been assigned lines or other writing assignments as punishment. But the relationship is relatively new, and few punishments have been handed out. I'm sure at some point, it'll be something he might consider. Writing lines wouldn't be a very effective punishment for me, however. That's such an elementary school activity that it would be hard for me to take it seriously. And if I can't take it seriously, then it's not a good punishment. Writing an essay may or may not be effective. It depends on the topic and my interest level...and it's a bad thing to assume that, just because I have no interest in the subject now, doesn't mean I won't develop an interest as I do research for the essay. But I also don't see the point in making someone write about something that has no direct correlation to either the incident that triggered the punishment, or to the dynamic of the couple involved. I suppose that may be because of the attitude that D has towards punishment, which happens to be one that works well with me. He prefers to instruct and reform an attitude or behaviour, rather than punishing for it. Punishment, to me, implies associating a negative consequence with a particular action...and using something that is a positive (which writing is for me) to induce a negative association, seems more than a little counter-productive. But that's just my two cents worth, and only applies to my situation.

Aileen1968 -> RE: Writing Lines as Punishment (4/17/2011 1:40:29 PM)
The only time I had to write lines, he was Professor Shorey and I was his college student, mary jane's, pigtails, short skirt and all. It most definitely was not a punishment...

sunshinemiss -> RE: Writing Lines as Punishment (4/17/2011 5:09:17 PM)
As an author and a teacher, I absolutely hate that writing is considered punishment. Writing is a joy! It is self expression, it is creativity, it is a tool for many things. Writing for LEARNING, for EXPLORING one's emotions, for REMEMBERING one's day and life - that's different. But writing as punishment. That breaks my heart. I assign journal writing to my students every semester. I encourage them to draw pictures, to cut things out of papers, to add movie stubs and advertisements and photographs and poems and turn their journal into a scrapbook of their lives. Some of them come to LOVE writing because of this. They come to love expressing themselves in English because they have never been allowed to really express themselves before. I give them a journal suggestion every week - just a suggestion - like... What would you do if your friend were pregnant? What is the purpose of plastic surgery? What are you life goals? Talk about a happy memory in your life. Write about a gift you gave someone and how it was to give that gift. Some of them consider it a drag, I'm sure. In fact, I know it is. But there is a goodly percentage that love it or at least enjoy it. *as an aside, I don't read their journals. I don't correct them. I allow them total freedom to write what and as they wish. I just check IF they did it. (They have a certain number of sentences / lines they have to write every week). Writing to figure out why someone did something, to express what was happening inside, those are good tools for discovery, for communication. Writing lines over and over as a punishment? How very sad. sunshine behind the clouds.

submale67 -> RE: Writing Lines as Punishment (4/18/2011 1:43:26 PM)
yes....had to write my gore slave postions out an learn each one. also had to come up with 30 words for the word beuatiful an write them out 5 times each.for 6 days an have my Mistress review them when i saw her for session

sunshinemiss -> RE: Writing Lines as Punishment (4/18/2011 3:45:39 PM)
And yet you still didn't learn how to spell Gor.

Palliata -> RE: Writing Lines as Punishment (4/18/2011 8:57:41 PM)
I'm kind of with NocturnalStalker in all seriousness. It seems a tiny bit juvenile. I mean, to each their own, but unless you're doing a teacher/student or parent/child dynamic it seems like the kind of punishment not suited to adults. The idea of essays and so on is better, however. The combination of discipline and education is desirable in whatever form it may take. The former is necessary from time to time (though, as I've said, punishment dynamics are not quite my way) and the latter is very important. A punishment which brings about a greater understanding of what I want and why I want it is ideal.

porcelaine -> RE: Writing Lines as Punishment (4/18/2011 9:35:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Palliata I'm kind of with NocturnalStalker in all seriousness. It seems a tiny bit juvenile. I mean, to each their own, but unless you're doing a teacher/student or parent/child dynamic it seems like the kind of punishment not suited to adults. Being told to write lines would leave me rather agitated and i'd seriously question his leadership capabilities. From my vantage point i'd ponder if that is the best he could conjure to address the infraction. And admittedly i'd ask him to articulate what he wishes me to gain from the exercise. Hopefully he's fluent when doing so. [;)] Namaste, ~porcelaine

gothikbutterfly -> RE: Writing Lines as Punishment (4/18/2011 9:37:25 PM)
I haven't had to write lines as punishment since my Grandfather was alive. He was a preacher, and would make us write lines as punishment if we took the name of the Lord in vain.

MistressTerious -> RE: Writing Lines as Punishment (4/19/2011 9:20:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NuevaVida Once I had to write an essay on realism vs. idealism. Five typed pages later, I turned in what I thought was a fascinating piece of work, which proved his theories wrong. I loved that essay. I still have it. I always enjoy reading. Perhaps you would send this to me sometime so I can have a good read! I am sure he wasn't amused that you proved him wrong"" [:D]

NuevaVida -> RE: Writing Lines as Punishment (4/19/2011 3:02:46 PM)
He didn't say either way, which is how I knew he saw my point. When he ignored an essay, I knew it was because he saw a truth he didn't like. I never set OUT to prove him wrong, and he appreciated the thought I put into things, he just didn't like if the conclusion didn't somehow prove HIS point. I'll have to see if I can dig that baby up somewhere.

littlewonder -> RE: Writing Lines as Punishment (4/19/2011 3:27:11 PM)
when I had to write lines for Master it was his way of ingraining in me my mistake so that it would never be forgotten. It was his way of making sure the mistake stayed in my mind. It's like making someone do something over and over again until they get it correct. Repetition keeps you from making the mistake again and the better you get at whatever it is. When I had to write essays it was his way of getting inside my thoughts, to know what i was thinking, how I operate when he did actually read what i wrote. When he doesn't read what I write it's something he wants me to keep in mind, to get when I don't get something or wants me to understand for me, not for him. Writing it out will give me that "aha" moment or make me go "bastard" because once I wrote it out I understood why he was making me write it. I never saw it as childish or immature but just the opposite. I found it wise and zen-like even though I may have hated him for making me do it. Afterwards it was anything but hating him. It was complete surrender to what he wanted of me.

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