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fetisheden -> RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell them apart? (4/24/2011 1:35:14 PM)

i know this has been said before, but i will say it again. all relationships require something of value to be exchanged. either love or money. you ALWAYS pay,whether or not you even know it.

having an argument now with a fool who says he loves having a (paid) lover but would never hire an escort. people can be so ignorant....




Real0ne -> RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell them apart? (4/24/2011 4:38:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: fetisheden

i know this has been said before, but i will say it again. all relationships require something of value to be exchanged. either love or money. you ALWAYS pay,whether or not you even know it.

having an argument now with a fool who says he loves having a (paid) lover but would never hire an escort. people can be so ignorant....


How can a commercial value be put on love?

you appear to be commingling commercial with several aspects of the nature of a wo/man.  (read either way)

The word pay is commercial and connotes a bargain that etymologically converts to the assessment, buying and selling of some-"thing".  It leads me to conclude you used the word value in the same context which is also commercial.

Money being a "thing" love on the other hand is not a thing.

I would agree that people who are in love exchange but argue that the word exchange is the only common characteristic between the two.

So while "love" is an exchange between people in love it is not possible to pay as the word has been used throughout the centuries.  

People who are in love exchange love.   That seems like an equal non-monetary exchange that may have value in a non-monetary sense.

The notion that "love" a spiritual metaphysical characteristic of wo/man and physical "money" can be legitimately joined via some commercial commingling on its face appears to be lacking distinction of philosophical, etymological or theological foundation.

what is the basis that you are using to aggregate these all into one mix?  I do not see the connection?








blkswitch -> RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell them apart? (4/24/2011 4:50:37 PM)

I on the other hand get many men who want me to do this to them, do that to them and what am I gonna get out of it, oooooh yeah...a chance to see that guy....yeah NOT...most of the men are from out of state or married, or totally not my type.

Some of us women want to be shown some appreciation and not be BUGGED by the weirded out type guys.  I'd even like to know if the guy is somewhat serious about getting to know me or just wanting to send me his naked butt crack pics, butt plug pics, hairy butt pics or telling me how he likes and adores black women.  ughhh..just wanna yell.

When I speak of my expectations, then they want to put a limit on when they want to "put out"....say, i don't want my pussy licked by every guy or to be fucked by every guy...kink is fun...so, what's the problem with asking for what you want?  Men seem to open up really quickly and say what they want, want, want and want.

It truly is a two way street...so be generous and don't be so needy and greedy fellas.




PeonForHer -> RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell them apart? (4/24/2011 5:36:27 PM)

FR

I haven't really followed this thread, but just to reassert the usual and obvious:

A woman who demands money for sex is a prostitute. It doesn't matter that's she's young and horny, nor that she doesn't actually need to demand money for sex in order to maintain her standard of living - she's still a prostitute if she demands money for sex. Sorry, but she doesn't get to duck the big argument about whether or not it's OK to be a prostitute just because she's a 'kind of classy' sort of prostitute.

As for prostitutes who try to shoehorn themselves into that body of ordinary, old-fashioned and kind of endearing group of women who 'want men to be gentlemen who'll see that a (L)lady deserves gifts'; or who think that demanding money for sex is justified because 'every relationship, when it comes down to it, involves payment for a service' . . . oh, for fuck's sake, give it a rest. That argument has never, ever worked. Only men who use prostitutes regularly will ever support it. Please just give it up. It is *unbelievably* tiresome. Stop chickening out of the battle: show why being a prostitute is OK. Own who you are and what you do, for fuck's sake. One thing I really can't stand is empty, pea-brained women who clearly need feminist arguments to support their case but are too snottily right wing and reactionary to employ them.




blkswitch -> RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell them apart? (4/25/2011 6:35:17 PM)

money = prostitutes

so, we are all prostitutes when we work! 

other than that...if a woman wants a gift and the guy wants to waste her time...he should just consider giving her a gift so she'll listen to his ranting... I want, i want, i want, etc.






kalikshama -> RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell them apart? (4/25/2011 6:38:42 PM)

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One thing I really can't stand is empty, pea-brained women who clearly need feminist arguments to support their case but are too snottily right wing and reactionary to employ them.


Nominated for the quote of the day!




gothikbutterfly -> RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell them apart? (4/25/2011 6:42:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

FR

I haven't really followed this thread, but just to reassert the usual and obvious:

A woman who demands money for sex is a prostitute. It doesn't matter that's she's young and horny, nor that she doesn't actually need to demand money for sex in order to maintain her standard of living - she's still a prostitute if she demands money for sex. Sorry, but she doesn't get to duck the big argument about whether or not it's OK to be a prostitute just because she's a 'kind of classy' sort of prostitute.

As for prostitutes who try to shoehorn themselves into that body of ordinary, old-fashioned and kind of endearing group of women who 'want men to be gentlemen who'll see that a (L)lady deserves gifts'; or who think that demanding money for sex is justified because 'every relationship, when it comes down to it, involves payment for a service' . . . oh, for fuck's sake, give it a rest. That argument has never, ever worked. Only men who use prostitutes regularly will ever support it. Please just give it up. It is *unbelievably* tiresome. Stop chickening out of the battle: show why being a prostitute is OK. Own who you are and what you do, for fuck's sake. One thing I really can't stand is empty, pea-brained women who clearly need feminist arguments to support their case but are too snottily right wing and reactionary to employ them.


Tell us how you REALLY feel [;)]




MistressRage -> RE: Domms demanding money / tribute, and how to tell them apart? (4/26/2011 11:10:51 PM)

Hilarious and true!

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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009


Here are a few more simple rules that will help you avoid being scammed:
  1. If her location is Ghana or Nigeria, she's probably a scammer.
  2. If she refers to you as a "pay piggy" or "ATM slave" you should probably avoid her.
  3. If she looks like a super model, and her pictures look like they came from a photo shoot for a bikini magazine, she's probably fake (how many people do you know who use professional photographers for their social media pics?).
  4. If she's 18 - 25 years old, is giving you the bird in her picture, and says she has 10 years of experience as a Domme, she's probably a fake.
  5. If she requires you to send her money before she'll even communicate with you, she should probably be avoided.
Having said all of that, there ARE financial Dommes who are very real.  They provide a valuable service for those who seek financial domination.  But they'll behave like normal people.  They'll recognize that you're a potential client/customer and they'll treat you accordingly.

But the single best piece of advice I could give you is to get off of your computer and go to a local munch.  It's amazing how I get approached by financial Dommes everyday on-line, but I've never been approached by one in real life.  NEVER! That alone should tell you something. 

So log off, and go meet a real Domme in your area.  You'll be glad you did.






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