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Awareness -> RE: Do you have contempt for submissive males? (5/27/2011 12:25:38 AM)

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insight into
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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather

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gain insight into someone's mind
trust me, you really, really, really don't want to even peek into my mind. every time i do speak my mind on a topic it tends to implode.
  The topic or your mind?

Besides, I've long suspected it was a charnel pit.  The aliens would have a field day with you.




rulemylife -> RE: Do you have contempt for submissive males? (5/27/2011 12:41:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LordShadow

Not sure that contempt is the right word for it...but there is definitely a loss of respect as a man. Females slaves are of use to me, male slaves are not so some of it comes from that. I am of gorean belief so my belief in natural order and Men taking their rightful place as the dominant of the species also plays a role, actually its not fair to blame all of it on Gorean because I believed Men to be the dominant of the species long before I began to study the philosophies. Anyway there's my two cents...



How the fuck would you ever know who is a male slave?

And what the fuck is the "natural order"? 

Let me tell you something Mr. "Ride hard and live free", if you saw me at Sturgis or Laconia you would not have the slightest clue that I enjoy being submissive to women in my private life.  Which makes sense because it is none of your business.





Windsweptgold0 -> RE: Do you have contempt for submissive males? (5/27/2011 12:57:46 AM)

"I am of gorean belief" so you believe in a sci fi book that is set on a factitious planet .. ok so then you dont have a grip on reality. Sub men are no different to sub women both have their needs. If you use your comment sub men are no use because YOU have no use then fine sub women are of no use because I have no use for them. Think you need to get your head out of story books




WyldHrt -> RE: Do you have contempt for submissive males? (5/27/2011 1:04:43 AM)

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I am of gorean belief so my belief in natural order and Men taking their rightful place as the dominant of the species also plays a role, actually its not fair to blame all of it on Gorean because I believed Men to be the dominant of the species long before I began to study the philosophies. Anyway there's my two cents...

We really need another chauvinist thread right about now...




LadyPact -> RE: Do you have contempt for submissive males? (5/27/2011 1:15:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LordShadow

Not sure that contempt is the right word for it...but there is definitely a loss of respect as a man. Females slaves are of use to me, male slaves are not so some of it comes from that. I am of gorean belief so my belief in natural order and Men taking their rightful place as the dominant of the species also plays a role, actually its not fair to blame all of it on Gorean because I believed Men to be the dominant of the species long before I began to study the philosophies. Anyway there's my two cents...



No it's not.  Tell the whole truth.  Even in the books there are males who serve and are happy to do so.

That IS their place in the natural order.  What?  That makes them lesser men? 

Especially for Gor, it takes balls to serve a woman.  Are you going to tell Me that you don't see that?




Awareness -> RE: Do you have contempt for submissive males? (5/27/2011 1:28:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt
We really need another chauvinist thread right about now...
  By or about?  For or against?  Practical or philosophical?  In sickness or in health?

Fuck.  Lost my mind there for a moment.




WyldHrt -> RE: Do you have contempt for submissive males? (5/27/2011 1:57:13 AM)

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  By or about?  For or against?  Practical or philosophical?  In sickness or in health?

Yep.
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Fuck.  Lost my mind there for a moment.
I hadn't noticed. [:D]




Awareness -> RE: Do you have contempt for submissive males? (5/27/2011 2:09:27 AM)

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Fuck.  Lost my mind there for a moment.
I hadn't noticed. [:D]

  "Jane, you ignorant slut!"




LadyPact -> RE: Do you have contempt for submissive males? (5/27/2011 2:14:59 AM)

Oh lookie.  A catch phrase.




WyldHrt -> RE: Do you have contempt for submissive males? (5/27/2011 2:19:48 AM)

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How the fuck would you ever know who is a male slave?

He looks for the Mary Janes and pink tutus y'all wear 24/7. [:D]
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And what the fuck is the "natural order"? 

That's one twue wayish for 'I don't understand what you are into, but it makes me uncomfortable; therefore, you must be fucked in the head because your Mommy didn't raise you to be *dramatic pause* a Man!'

~Helpful Wyld




Awareness -> RE: Do you have contempt for submissive males? (5/27/2011 2:21:39 AM)

  Oh look, a ray of sunshine.




WyldHrt -> RE: Do you have contempt for submissive males? (5/27/2011 2:30:24 AM)

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"Jane, you ignorant slut!"

lol, SNL references always get bonus funny points/




Awareness -> RE: Do you have contempt for submissive males? (5/27/2011 2:32:41 AM)

  The irony of course is that we don't have it out here so any SNL is usually picked up via cultural osmosis.

I'm told it used to be a lot better than it is now, but that could just be nostalgia talking.




LadyPact -> RE: Do you have contempt for submissive males? (5/27/2011 2:38:21 AM)

It's amazing what you can find by doing a back search.  So much good stuff back there.  Someone might be surprised at what they could find.




rulemylife -> RE: Do you have contempt for submissive males? (5/27/2011 3:02:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt

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How the fuck would you ever know who is a male slave?


He looks for the Mary Janes and pink tutus y'all wear 24/7.



Then he's going to be confused because my tutu is purple.




Awareness -> RE: Do you have contempt for submissive males? (5/27/2011 3:32:04 PM)

  That's true.  The dreary predictability of some people really does become apparent.  Over time, one could almost assemble a reasonably accurate picture of someone's predilections and weaknesses, complete with the times they totally contradicted themselves, their relentless pursuit of board politics and how their responses don't match their stated intentions or advertised personality.

Truly, history is an amazing thing.




GreedyTop -> RE: Do you have contempt for submissive males? (5/27/2011 4:06:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt

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How the fuck would you ever know who is a male slave?


He looks for the Mary Janes and pink tutus y'all wear 24/7.



Then he's going to be confused because my tutu is purple.



PICS!!




masterlink65 -> RE: Do you have contempt for submissive males? (5/30/2011 5:55:14 PM)

I do not look down on a sub male. I have a straight friend who is very submissive in most his dealings. My only problem is, I wish he would find a woman that is dominant and not abusive. some people control, and the others controlled. Gender has very little to do with it.




DerrickDiesel -> RE: Do you have contempt for submissive males? (6/23/2011 1:49:15 AM)

I just read through quite a bit of this thread. Thought it was a fascinating question. Here are my thoughts.

First, I think submissive men are a necessary part of society and are integral to the survival of our species. Not only do I hate the thought of living in a world where every guy is dominant, I think if all men were dominant we'd quite literally destroy the world. I think a world where every man felt compelled to rule and lead would be a world too bloody to support life.

Now on a personal scale. When a STRAIGHT man is submissive, I do think that I consider him less of a "real man" whatever that may be. So to say that maybe I respect submissive men less than I respect strong willed dominant men like myself, would be true. But I wouldn't say that I dislike them, or harbor any ill feelings. Quite the contrary, it's nice to have submissive guys around. They serve a lot of useful purposes, and it's nice to hang out with guys sometimes who aren't gung ho alpha tards always trying to be the toughest guy around, I rather prefer it. Now so far I'm speaking only in personality traits. When it comes to actually sexually submissive guys that like to get fucked with a strap-on. It doesn't bother me, but intellectually I find it a bit repulsive. It's really just because I'd find it so repulsive to do it myself. I often have trouble imagining how it appeals to others. But I'm comfortable knowing that it does appeal to others, and happy to let them live their life without any ill will from me. So long as they don't except me to join in their beliefs or approve of it.




leadership527 -> RE: Do you have contempt for submissive males? (6/23/2011 7:45:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop
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ORIGINAL: rulemylife
Then he's going to be confused because my tutu is purple.

PICS!!

OK settle down folks. Sheez, I got involved in the panties thread because Carol happens to own a fair selection. But we don't own a tutu of any color so let's not get another pic thread going. I'd hate to miss out on an opportunity to lose some more of my domly street-cred.




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