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RE: You`re Next,... Douche-bag..... - 5/3/2011 10:20:20 AM

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I trust our president.

Who are you,again?

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RE: You`re Next,... Douche-bag..... - 5/3/2011 10:22:32 AM

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So, you believe what you are told without proof ?

I look at data from a lot of independent sources. Remember, you can NEVER prove anything, you can only use Occam's Razor and pare away any other possible scenarios. The combination of the claims made with the data backing it up and the reactions from the rest of the world (ESPECIALLY our enemies) has Me convinced that OBL is DEAD.

Not just one claim. A claim and a HELL of a lot of supporting, verifiable data.

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RE: You`re Next,... Douche-bag..... - 5/3/2011 10:33:23 AM

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Zawahiri will be sleeping with one eye open, if he sleeps at all. He has to know that he will be next in line.

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RE: You`re Next,... Douche-bag..... - 5/3/2011 10:42:56 AM

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They can get Zawahiri the same way they got Bin Laden. By keeping the entire operation top secret until after it's carried out. Obama succeeded in catching Bin Laden because everyone involved kept their mouths shut.

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RE: You`re Next,... Douche-bag..... - 5/3/2011 10:45:54 AM

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Anyone else want to bet that there are some Pakistani government officials that are getting a little nervous about now?

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RE: You`re Next,... Douche-bag..... - 5/3/2011 10:51:27 AM

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So, you believe what you are told without proof ?

I believe that SEAL tam 6 would not participate in a hoax. Until I hear one of those guys saying they didn't kill OBL he's croaked.

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RE: You`re Next,... Douche-bag..... - 5/3/2011 10:54:27 AM

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Oh yeah,apparently they`re "shocked" to find out obl is on a ten acre mansion near a major city, just feet from their military academy.

I heard on NPR that it`s possible obl was only there a short time tho at that location.

That obl get`s,opps sorry,got help from some parts of the Pakistan government is without question.

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RE: You`re Next,... Douche-bag..... - 5/3/2011 10:55:13 AM

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So, you believe what you are told without proof ?

The problem is there is never enough proof for you.

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RE: You`re Next,... Douche-bag..... - 5/3/2011 11:02:20 AM

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Let's face reality here.
No proof would have satisfied you or your friends on here who believe that we are all just pawns in a great global conspiracy.

I am one of the "friends".
Bin Laden died of kidney failure in December 2001, and he was buried by his followers in an unmarked grave in the mountains between Afghanistan and Pakistan. This was widely reported in the Middle East news sources. Unless proven otherwise this stands.
Listening the "official news", I smell staged event and propaganda so strongly it hurts.
The question is what is it a prelude of and what it means? Being solely the election campaign illusionist trick is doubtful. So, the post asks important question in this regard.

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RE: You`re Next,... Douche-bag..... - 5/3/2011 11:04:31 AM

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Let's face reality here.
No proof would have satisfied you or your friends on here who believe that we are all just pawns in a great global conspiracy.

I am one of the "friends".
Bin Laden died of kidney failure in December 2001, and he was buried by his followers in an unmarked grave in the mountains between Afghanistan and Pakistan. This was widely reported in the Middle East news sources. Unless proven otherwise this stands.
Listening the "official news", I smell staged event and propaganda so strongly it hurts.
The question is what is it a prelude of and what it means? Being solely the election campaign illusionist trick is doubtful. So, the post asks important question in this regard.

What concrete evidence do you have? Do you have a body? Do you have DNA. Do you even have a link to a translation of a story from some third world rag?

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RE: You`re Next,... Douche-bag..... - 5/3/2011 11:37:35 AM

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What concrete evidence do you have? Do you have a body? Do you have DNA.

The same applies in this case, no body, it was disposed of at sea, apparently, I do hope they took DNA or at least photographs, and after the heat of battle, no grainy ambiguous shots will do, for we all know the capabilities of a modern digital camera in the hands of even the most gruntiest of grunts for they sure manage to get pretty clear cell phone pics up onto the web, and youtube during operations.

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RE: You`re Next,... Douche-bag..... - 5/3/2011 11:41:17 AM

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I trust our president.

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I know for a fact that no u.s. president ever lied to anyone, friend or foe, except when he felt it was necessary.

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RE: You`re Next,... Douche-bag..... - 5/3/2011 11:42:03 AM

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What concrete evidence do you have? Do you have a body? Do you have DNA.

The same applies in this case, no body, it was disposed of at sea, apparently, I do hope they took DNA or at least photographs, and after the heat of battle, no grainy ambiguous shots will do, for we all know the capabilities of a modern digital camera in the hands of even the most gruntiest of grunts for they sure manage to get pretty clear cell phone pics up onto the web, and youtube during operations.

Have you read any of the articles regarding the DNA testing that was done or facial recognition software that was used?

Your previous post proves to me what others are saying. If someone dumped his still warm louse infested corpse in your lap with his youngest wife still trying to wash it, you wouldn't believe.

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RE: You`re Next,... Douche-bag..... - 5/3/2011 11:44:51 AM

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I believe that SEAL tam 6 would not participate in a hoax. Until I hear one of those guys saying they didn't kill OBL he's croaked.

God himself must know that squids would never lie even if they thought it was necessary.

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RE: You`re Next,... Douche-bag..... - 5/3/2011 11:46:11 AM

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I believe that SEAL tam 6 would not participate in a hoax. Until I hear one of those guys saying they didn't kill OBL he's croaked.

God himself must know that a squid would never lie even if he thought it was necessary.

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RE: You`re Next,... Douche-bag..... - 5/3/2011 11:53:34 AM

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Nope, you are wrong, given such a high profile result, one might have expected to see the aftermath well documented and shown to the world in glorious technicolour, imagery abound that would have been splashed across the world showing the prowess of American forces in finally getting their man. Who knows such scenes might have had a good effect on those terrorists and would be terrorists too. As to perhaps not wanting to endanger the identities of the operatives, well a well wrapped shemagh hides all but the eyes and desert goggles the rest, of which I am aware most regular forces in desert regions possess as standard kit.

But to be fair, perhaps imagery will come out in the next few days, as a picture often tells a thousand words and imagery many believe doesn't lie.

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RE: You`re Next,... Douche-bag..... - 5/3/2011 11:54:48 AM

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Nope, you are wrong, given such a high profile result, one might have expected to see the aftermath well documented and shown to the world in glorious technicolour, imagery abound that would have been splashed across the world showing the prowess of American forces in finally getting their man. Who knows such scenes might have had a good effect on those terrorists and would be terrorists too. As to perhaps not wanting to endanger the identities of the operatives, well a well wrapped shemagh hides all but the eyes and desert goggles the rest, of which I am aware most regular forces in desert regions possess as standard kit.

But to be fair, perhaps imagery will come out in the next few days, as a picture often tells a thousand words and imagery many believe doesn't lie.

When the images show up, I will eagerly await your comments about photoshop.

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RE: You`re Next,... Douche-bag..... - 5/3/2011 11:55:18 AM

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You are wrong, his head would have sufficed, or at least his body, then those that know OBL's appearance could confirm it, then the threatened world may rejoice, as until then, they are being told it is so as usual, and people who normlly demand evidence or proof blindly follow what they are being told in this case. So that being those that follow what they are told without evidence or proof, can be easily led, controlled and conned which makes it all too easy to let other otherwise questionable situations pass by without objection, because you are told and you accept without question.

Tell, me has no one had that niggling doubt in their mind and the wish to see a body, because if you had that, why now do you rejoice against your better judgement, is it you are caught up in the razmataz ?

I heard on either NPR or the BBC that pictures were taken but not in general release because of the graphic and inflammatory nature of said pictures.

Aneirin, I agree it would have been better to show the body. If indeed they wanted to dispose of the body within 24 hours, it might not have been possible.

And I'm not "rejoicing", I see killing bin Laden as necessary. He explicitly stated destruction of the US was his goal. I think the "USA, USA" chanters were inappropriate.

I also agree I find it hard to believe NO ONE in Pakistan knew where he was.

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RE: You`re Next,... Douche-bag..... - 5/3/2011 12:19:08 PM

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People must stop suspecting everyone as being in league with terrorists simply because they share the same religion or come from the same part of the world. I do believe if one keeps a low enough profile and keeps out of conurbations, one may hide quite effectively, but yes, I do suspect some in government might have known, but then not everyone toes the official line.

But my concern is terrorism, although OBL might hve been the leader at one time, I do feel it has expanded beyond him now, and perhaps why he was hiding out, he was passed it.

But as to OBL'S body I am surprised it was not brought back to the US.

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RE: You`re Next,... Douche-bag..... - 5/3/2011 12:28:47 PM

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Let's face reality here.
No proof would have satisfied you or your friends on here who believe that we are all just pawns in a great global conspiracy.

I am one of the "friends".
Bin Laden died of kidney failure in December 2001, and he was buried by his followers in an unmarked grave in the mountains between Afghanistan and Pakistan. This was widely reported in the Middle East news sources. Unless proven otherwise this stands.
Listening the "official news", I smell staged event and propaganda so strongly it hurts.
The question is what is it a prelude of and what it means? Being solely the election campaign illusionist trick is doubtful. So, the post asks important question in this regard.

No, you don't understand the concept of burden of proof.

The proponent of a claim has that burden.

So........... I'll be waiting breathlessly for you to provide the proof of what you have just claimed.

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