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crazyml -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/10/2011 12:32:07 AM)

Just fyi "Irony" doesn't describe the feeling you get when you decide you need to press some laundry.




SweetDommes -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/10/2011 12:48:46 AM)

Sorry, nothing in your post told me you were trying to be "ironic" ... and as there are a number of people who DO think it's realistic, and you do have "crazy" in your screen name, how exactly am I supposed to know that's what you were going for?




crazyml -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/10/2011 1:21:04 AM)

I really wasn't trying to be ironic. I was being ironic.

But, sure you would likely to have had to read a number of my posts in order to tell, so I'm sorry for the confusion.

Let me make it clear:-

I think the OP's desires are fantastically unrealistic, and while I wish him all the very best, I do have the impression that he's a madwag.





YSG -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/10/2011 9:44:15 AM)

OP, have you ever had a relationship with a real, live, actual woman? You know, those beautiful creatures that are soft, sweet, feminine, emotional, etc? Or do you just sit on the internet all day watching porn?

Honestly, something you need to know is, dominant women are women first. Just because they like to be in control, doesnt mean they dont have the same needs, fears, emotions, etc. that regular women do. Honestly, if you walked up to some strange woman on the street and asked her to enslave you, what do you think she would do? My bet is she would walk away quickly, thinking you're some crazy person.




Rule -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/10/2011 9:58:10 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DePubed
What if in your "forced sexual slavery" you HAD to orally service other MALES;
is your fantasy/need prepared for such a reality?

BUT if their Mistress/Owner wanted these 'sex slaves' to orally service other dudes, or be anally penetrated by other males,
these same 'sex slaves' are no longer interested.
My point is: why call it 'slavery' if the 'slave' only does what HE wants to do.

There is a huge difference between a true submissive and a natural slave. You on the other hand appear to think that both are simply people who are forced to perform some kind of task - i.e. as some kind of economic drudgery.

In any case: both the slave and the submissive can do without crazy masters / owners. To function at their best they require responsible masters / owners.




Rule -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/10/2011 10:00:02 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: missiveman
I have fantasized about this for years. My profile shows my kink in this area. However, I have been unable to get anyone seriously interested in my request. Why?

How about courting a woman first and perchance later see if she will indulge in a bit of bed-room abduction and sex slavery?




LadyPact -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/10/2011 10:29:04 AM)

I'm going to go against the tide a bit.  Yes, kidnapping is a fun game to play and so is the role play that goes along with what the OP would like to do.  I'm not talking about a permanent situation here.  An evening, a weekend, a vacation........  Sure.  Camp Crucible offers this as part of it's packages for folks who want to experience it (minus the sex slave part) and they get booked solid.  One of the couples that I've done this with now go every year because he enjoys it so much. 

Would I engage in the same activity with some random guy from the internet?  Not just "no" but "hell no"!  There's no assurance some stranger can give Me, no supposed legal protection, nothing that convinces Me that My ass isn't going straight to jail because next day remorse sets in.  That's HUGE risk on My part.  For what?  The same kind of fun that I can experience with My own submissive or playing along with people that I've known for years?  To get the same kind of sex that I can already get from someone who is sixteen ways kind of hot and has the same fantasy?  It's just not that hard to find somebody who wants to play this game with Me on My terms, for My benefit, and for My satisfaction.





missiveman -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/10/2011 12:21:02 PM)

OK everybody, thanks a lot for all the comments. I've read them all, and it appears that the vast majority of you think what I want is totally unrealistic, and unattractive to anybody but professional Dommes, and even then for very short-term, expensive sessions.
I'll just have to corral my fantasies, and find some other outlet.
Thanks again, and best wishes to you all.
missiveman




LadyConstanze -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/10/2011 1:33:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: missiveman

Lockit, thanks for the reply. I realize that I am sending out red flags to people, but I can't help how I feel. I really want this, so it drives me all the time.
A word about the legalities: Once into this type of bondage, it won't matter to me anymore, I'll be completely helpless, which is what I want anyway. There won't be any court case, because we'll be into the thick of it for years and years. It would be all hush-hush.
As for fantasy play versus reality, I want out of reality, into a fantasy reality, permanently. I know this is scary for many people, but this is the ultimate fantasy that I seek.
Perhaps I could chat with a woman privately before this all takes place. I've thought about going to some munches to see if I can get anyone interested in it, so that they can see that I'm really serious about this. Maybe I'll do just that.



Hold on a second, before legalities enter it, there has to be somebody who actually wants you as her sex slave and has to be OK with your conditions and limitations, it's all about what you want, so you got to find somebody who fancies you so much that she wants to play along - and there's your problem. Even if I would find you so attractive, I would be concerned about STDs, then to be honest a guy who wants to be kept like that all the time, I'd get bored with it, I mean going through the bloody kidnapping scenario everytime I want sex? Bah, there are guys who need less effort to get it up...




Ishtarr -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/11/2011 10:00:09 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: missiveman

OK everybody, thanks a lot for all the comments. I've read them all, and it appears that the vast majority of you think what I want is totally unrealistic, and unattractive to anybody but professional Dommes, and even then for very short-term, expensive sessions.
I'll just have to corral my fantasies, and find some other outlet.
Thanks again, and best wishes to you all.
missiveman


Your main problem -the one that you seem to fail to understand- is that you specifically exclude ANY woman who may actually be interested in kidnapping men and forcing them to be slaves by having a list of stipulations as to what she is and isn't allowed to do with you.

If a woman truly ENJOYS forcing men to do things, she's going to enjoy forcing you to do exactly the things you don't want to do instead of pretending to force you to do the things you want to do.
In fact, the very fact that you enjoy certain things is going to be an almost certain guaranty that doing those things to you would be a turn-off to the type of woman you claim to be looking for.

In essence, your problem is that you're looking for a woman who is either the opposite of what you want her to be OR you're looking for a woman who is willing to pretend to be the woman you are looking for on a 24/7 ongoing basis for the rest of your life.

Why would a woman want to start a relationship with you if your SOLE requirement of her is -dictate by the very essence of what you're looking for- that she would forever be disallowed to be who SHE wants to be?

Ishtar





DarkSteven -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/12/2011 6:56:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: missiveman

myotherself, thanks so much. Yes, you're right, I need to bring a lot more to the table. I can earn a very respectable income over the Internet. Even with certain restrictions (like no email, so I can't send for help), I can still pay my own way. I even see that as part of my motivation: Earn so much money today, and you get a reward. Otherwise, CBT, chastity device, and torture. I do have a nice personality, IMHO, so I can be very friendly!


You're starting to get there, but you still have it backwards.  You're saying "This is what I can offer IF I get what I want."  Try "This is what I have to offer. Let's see if we're compatible.  If so, I'd like to talk about a kidnapping kink I have."

Lead with yourself, NOT with your fetish.  You'd be amazed what women will do for you, if they genuinely like you and have a relationship with you.  Much more than they'd do for a random stranger with a fetish.




cloudboy -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/13/2011 10:13:07 PM)


It might be easier to just get married.




OttersSwim -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/14/2011 7:23:24 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy
It might be easier to just get married.


No no...that would be kidnapping into sexless slavery.  [;)]




subrob1967 -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/14/2011 9:32:23 AM)

Wow, just wow.

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DominicsJoy -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/14/2011 9:52:18 AM)

If I may interject, please? I normally would read only, but I would like to give an option that has not been touched upon. While I agree that a profile should definately say more than, "here I am, do me." I know your fantasy is important, it is probably the biggest draw to the lifestyle for you. There is no right or wrong. If all you want from the lifestyle is your fantasy fulfilled it just means you are limiting the selection of interested applicants for the position by 99%. If you widen your scope by showing what you have to offer a potential Domme than you may find more takers. That said...

I would also suggest that if that does not happen you might want to consider other ways of fulfilling your fantasy. There are other, and perhaps safer ways than paying someone to role play it with you. Master and I have been able to have great sucess with hypnotism. You would have all the memories, feel as if you had experienced it, and never leave the safety of your living room. With this option it doesn't matter if the hypnotist is male or female as long as they understand your fantasy and have the competancy to make it happen. There are no diseases to contend with and you would have your wish. They could regress you enough that you would believe you had actually been a sexual slave in service for years and had found great satisfaction. Sometimes when you have a need you have to go 'out of the box'.

Best of luck to you in finding what you are looking for.




Lockit -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/14/2011 10:07:16 AM)

LOL.. that might work! However, he would still have to work, pay bills and couldn't escape totally and combined with his implanted memories... he could waste away in a chair until someone found him... or... end laying on a sofa telling someone of the horrors of his life.

You can't avoid real life... even for a rich fantasy life and that is in part, what he is trying to do.




DominicsJoy -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/14/2011 10:13:39 AM)

Yes Ma'am I agree. I would love to slip away from life and simply 'do hypnosis'... unfortunately being a slave isn't easy, it isn't getting all of my fantasies fullfilled, and it certainly isn't laying around. At least hypnosis would offer a memory that one could not tell whether it did or didn't really happen. (Many use it for gang rape fantasies and similar dangerous scenes).

Hypnosis is habit forming in the erotic hypnosis side. But I can say from experience it is pretty dern spiffy.

I just wanted to try to give some positive advice. Most were bent on the negative. All of us have our private needs and fantasies. Who is to judge? (Well, okay... besides the Doms, Dommes, switches, tops and every other person on Earth who is over me.... )

(Rolling my eyes in private over here)




Lockit -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/14/2011 10:22:50 AM)

LOL (Not laughing at you... I laugh a lot and often laugh at truths.) No one is over you from what I can see or know of. Judging... well yes.. that is true. Being unrealistic in his fantasy that he doesn't want to be a fantasy, I cannot put much faith in his handling implanted memories and dosing them out to himself without harm. You play with the mind and with the potential of it being unstable already... and being unrealistic to this degree... gives me reason to believe that some unstablity could be considered. You could be messing with something one really shouldn't be messing with.

I have a son trapped in a mind... in a healthy body... with a mind that is unrealistic and god knows what goes on in there. I have seen what unstable and escapism can do and just why he is now the way he is. A mind is not a thing to play with unless you know that mind very well and what might or might not happen.

I'm all for a fantasy life... escapism... no, that doesn't play out so well.




Missokyst -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/14/2011 12:10:50 PM)

Good point. Even if someone was convinced this thing did happen, there will be repercussions down the line. A good demonstration of this are the children who were involved in the numerous witch hunts in day care centers in the 80's. Some of them remain convinced that things happened even in the lack of evidence of the same, even when others give different accounts, ect.

I know of one who is on disability due to anti-depressive medication, and she still sees a therapist once a month.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

LOL.. that might work! However, he would still have to work, pay bills and couldn't escape totally and combined with his implanted memories... he could waste away in a chair until someone found him... or... end laying on a sofa telling someone of the horrors of his life.

You can't avoid real life... even for a rich fantasy life and that is in part, what he is trying to do.






DominicsJoy -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/14/2011 1:20:38 PM)

True, but I would like to think that all of us have some chance at living out a fantasy. His, though a bit self centered, is not dangerous to others and would be well within the realm of possibilities to play out. I did refer to competancy... meaning the hypnotist would need to be not only capable, but willing to deal with some of the other issues we are all seeing here.

I have a checkered past, having abuse that was prevailant, but thanks to hypnosis I am able to deal with it quite well. Not every hypnotist or hypnotic suggestion is there to 'screw you up'. Sadly, like most things, people do not do any homework or investigation and simply jump first and ask questions later.




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